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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1588 times:

Something is kicking off  Sad

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4750576.stm



Lee


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User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

Having walked down O'Connell Street numerous times, this is difficult to imagine and very sad. It's strange, my boss, who I sit next to at work (female, in her 50's) and I were just yesterday talking about our love of the city of Belfast and how misrepresented it is by the media and how, as a visitor, all the political problems seem a world away. Seems those same problems have reard their head in Dublin today.

Such a shame for two fabulous cities.  

[Edited 2006-02-25 22:40:58]


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User currently offlineSunshine79 From UK - England, joined Jan 2006, 1759 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1534 times:

Quoting Capital146 (Reply 1):
Having walked down O'Connell Street numerous times, this is difficult imagine and very sad

This is very sad. I've walked around Dublin a few times too and cannot imagine such violent antics in such a great city. Lets just hope peace is restored very soon.



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User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2191 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

I hope uta and teahan present their excuses. Especially after what the second did in Paris last year.

User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

I appalled, sickened and saddened to see this happen in my birth city.

Fairly extensive coverage on www.rte.ie

I would never have imagined riots in Dublin. To be honest, I was concerned when I read the other day of this planned march in Dublin by Loyalists, but I never imagined they would be confronted with this. Unfortunately, a small minority have once again done huge damage to a wide spectrum.



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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

Sad. Dublin is such a friendly and warm city. But it wont stop me going there. The Irish are way above this sort of shit getting to them.

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1477 times:

Is a shame to see Ireland return to violence again. Lets hope this is an one-off incident

[Edited 2006-02-26 00:06:54]


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User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1469 times:

I have spent the best part of the last 72 hours in meetings with Irish people in aviation related matters, and we, as ever, not only have productive meetings for our Irish friends, we have a bloody good laugh as well.

Everyone is amazed at what is going on in Dublin, and we invite all parties, be they Catholic or Prody to come down to Portugal, have a couple of rounds of golf, and we'll sort this out. What ever it is, rioting is not the answer.



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User currently offlineFUMANCHEWD From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1454 times:

Good for Ireland. Their showing our Islamic brothers how to really riot. Not over a silly cartoon but something much more substantial-money/unions.

User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1406 times:

Quoting Runway23 (Reply 3):
uta and teahan present their excuses. Especially after what the second did in Paris last year.

WHAT has "teahan" done in Paris last year ?

Quoting BMIFlyer (Thread starter):
Something is kicking off

WHAT have "loyalists" to go to Dublin for ? I mean they could do their demonstration in Belfast. Or do they next time go to London, Brussels or Athens to launch a demonstration ?

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 5):
Dublin is such a friendly and warm city.

For sure it is. But ugly demonstrations can happen and do happen in any city. As uncountable demonstrations in the world have shown, even if those who organize a demonstration want to have it without violence and destruction, small groups of troublemakers easily manage to turn it into a mess.


User currently offlineBDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1395 times:

And it appears they had some "fun" in Portadown on their way back to the North from Dublin. Although it's not confirmed, I'd stake my life on betting that it was the same rioters that trashed the centre of Dublin. Bastards!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4752112.stm



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User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1377 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 9):
WHAT have "loyalists" to go to Dublin for ? I mean they could do their demonstration in Belfast. Or do they next time go to London, Brussels or Athens to launch a demonstration ?

Good question ME AVN FAN, and I point I feared to raise as I have an Irish flag on my profile. I did say I felt unfcomfortable with the idea of the loyalist march in Dublin. When I told my wife this morning about the riots, and why they occurred, her reaction (and note she is not Irish or British) was "what right to the Loyalists have to go and march in a city which is effetively on foreign territory and on top of that the soil of a nation these very people don't want to belong to... it's pure provocation". She was not defending obviously the idiots who actually caused the riots, but puts a certain amount of blame on the Loyalists for coming down to the Republic of Ireland. She asked, how would they feel if people from the Republic of Ireland came to demonstrate in Belfast against British occupation... and apart from the provoctation side of it, she things their presence on the streets of Dublin makes just as much sense as Spaniards travelling to Dublin to demonstrate againts ETA".



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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1369 times:

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 11):
right to the Loyalists have to go and march in a city which is effetively on foreign territory

they legally have the right to demonstrate everywhere, for instance in Nadi/Fiji or Milan/Italy, provided they get the permission from the local authorities

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 11):
the soil of a nation these very people don't want to belong to... it's pure provocation"

it for sure IS/WAS pure and absolute provocation

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 11):
puts a certain amount of blame on the Loyalists for coming down to the Republic of Ireland. She asked, how would they feel if people from the Republic of Ireland came to demonstrate in Belfast against British occupation..

EVERYTHING is to blame on those "loyalists". And to the second part, please ask her not even to think about such a possiblity ! she obviously is French, used to the demonstrations the French way, where most such things get settled about a glass or some glasses of "Rouge" !


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13190 posts, RR: 77
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

They might call themselves 'Loyalists', does not alter the fact that they have been always been regarded with almost as much contempt as the IRA, by the very nation they profess loyalty too.
(Except by some Scots).

They claim to be 'British', let's see;
Religous Fundamentalists
Into parading around in absurd costumes
Totally obsessed with dates of long past arcane historical events-that few on the mainland know or care about.

Not much in common with the mainland then, to the point of being unrecognisable.

They do have some elements similar to a few over here however-British born Islamic fundamentalists.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1359 times:

Quoting GDB (Reply 13):
call themselves 'Loyalists', does not alter the fact that they have been always been regarded with almost as much contempt as the IRA, by the very nation they profess loyalty too.
(Except by some Scots).

WHAT Scot(s) ? anyone(s) in particular ? duck}

Quoting GDB (Reply 13):
Not much in common with the mainland then, to the point of being unrecognisable.

not much indeed, if anything

Quoting GDB (Reply 13):
They do have some elements similar to a few over here however-British born Islamic fundamentalists.

yes, Sheikh Ahmed Hassan al-Banna might have liked them, except their beverages-preferences !


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13078 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1354 times:

From one article I read, a majority of the those attacking the Protestant marchers (who were from N.I.) were Catholics from N.I. - not local sourced protestors. Isn't it ironic that these riots occured at the site of the 1916 Easter Uprising, a major battle for an independent Ireland.
There needs to be an end of the historical clashes between the Protestants and the Catholics. That should include that Protestant religious leaders call for the end of the 'marching season' processions by Protestants in N.I. for their repression of Catholics many Centuries ago as they just continue the hate. That also means the Catholics must be true to their faith and not support those in the IRA or like terror organizations anymore and in anyway.


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 12):
she obviously is French

She's not actually... she's Spanish! But then, getyour point... in Spain they may just settle it over a few classes of "tinto" or sangria...

Quoting GDB (Reply 13):

Very well said GDB

[Edited 2006-02-26 18:07:20]


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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13190 posts, RR: 77
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

ME AVN FAN, there is some sectarian nonsense in Scotland too, of course nothing remotely like N.I., in fact it's most apparent in Football supporters, Celtic traditionally being seen as a Catholic club, Catholic fans, with affinity to Irish Catholics.

Rangers being 'Loyalist'.


User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 7):
we invite all parties, be they Catholic or Prody to come down to Portugal, have a couple of rounds of golf, and we'll sort this out. What ever it is, rioting is not the answer.

Do you think that approach would work with these guys that are a tad upset over some cartoons?



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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1313 times:

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 18):
Do you think that approach would work with these guys that are a tad upset over some cartoons?

Probably not  Sad


Lee



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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1306 times:

Looks like 13 people have been charged for various offences.

Good work by the Garda.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4752102.stm


Lee



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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5678 posts, RR: 32
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1290 times:

Soon as I turn my back something like this happens! It's ironic that the marchers and the rioters were the rent-a-mob scum that inhabits the northern province.

I didn't have any negative feelings about Loyalist marching in Dublin as I felt it would have passed off peacefully: 95% of Dubliners would have looked at it with a sense of bewilderment and amusement.

Unfortunately the government didn't plan for republican scum travelling south to disrupt it. Hopefully most of the troublemakers will have been identified on CCTV and dealt with appropriately.


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1261 times:

Yep, that is well put Braybuddy. You in Australia at the moment? Just goes to show what happens if you leave the home land for just one minute... the whole place goes mad!


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