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Video Of London Muslim/Arab Demonstrators  
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 2 months 2 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

I suggest that everyone watch as much of this film as possible.

As QR332 would point out, this only represents a small minority of the world's 1.3 billion Muslims...But dam does this small minority scare the heck out of me.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...9405_Cartoon_Madness_on_Video&only

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User currently offlineAlberchico From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

whats actually scary is that there will probaly be violent acts against the people who drew those cartoons, just like Van Gough and his documentary. Islam will never recover from this in the eyes of the Western world.......

User currently offlineCedarjet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

They don't scare you. They embolden you in your rabid pro-Israeli campaign - the more we make these people look like nutters, the clearer our consciences when we steal their land (Palestine) and resources (Iraq et al).

Why shouldn't they be angry? We keep bombing the shit out of them. They're angry, not crazy. Trying to make them look crazy suits your purposes.


User currently offlineAlberchico From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 hours ago) and read 2108 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 2):
They don't scare you. They embolden you in your rabid pro-Israeli campaign

was that to me or him ???


User currently offlineN229NW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 hour ago) and read 2100 times:

Of course no one made a video of the anti-cartoon marches the next two weekends by 5000 and 10000 by peaceful Muslims who rejected the extremists...

Remember that several prominent British Muslim organizations were calling for the arrest of the extremists with the placards at this crazy demonstration...

But yes, those people are scary, and I some should be tried on incitement charges where a decent legal case can be made.


User currently offlineN229NW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 hour ago) and read 2096 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 2):
Why shouldn't they be angry? We keep bombing the shit out of them. They're angry, not crazy. Trying to make them look crazy suits your purposes.

No, they're angry and crazy. Come on! "We love Osama! We love Osama! We will invade Denmark and take their wives as war booty!" That is crazy, and scary.

Don't make excuses for them. (unless you would make the same excuses for all the idiots driving around the US after 9/11 with "nuke mecca" or "nuke the whole middle east" signs on their pickup trucks). Rjpieces has pretty skewed views about Arabs and Muslims, but it seems you might too in the other direction...

[Edited 2006-02-27 16:31:48]

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 hour ago) and read 2073 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 2):

Why shouldn't they be angry? We keep bombing the shit out of them. They're angry, not crazy. Trying to make them look crazy suits your purposes.

In all fairness, we keep bombing the shit out of the Middle East, not Muslims in the UK. There's no justification for some of the signs we saw. Then again, there's no law against protesting - however stupid that protest may be.


User currently offlinePROSA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months ago) and read 2057 times:

I can't play the video clip on the computer I'm using. So I have a question: approximately how many demonstraters are there? Something tells me this isn't a huge demonstration with thousands (or even hundreds) of people.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months ago) and read 2051 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 2):
They don't scare you. They embolden you in your rabid pro-Israeli campaign - the more we make these people look like nutters, the clearer our consciences when we steal their land (Palestine) and resources (Iraq et al).

Why shouldn't they be angry? We keep bombing the shit out of them. They're angry, not crazy. Trying to make them look crazy suits your purposes.

Interesting point of view - skewed IMO, but interesting.

They're angry over a cartoon . . . . now - that's crazy. Any damned way you slice it . . .

We aren't bombing the shit out of them . . . I can't recall a single time in history we've bombed the UK.

Speaking of bombing, they've bombed more of their own shit and killed more of their Muslim brothers and sisters recently than any coalition military force . . .

They are crazy . . . just as crazy as the nutjob preacher and his followers here in the states . . . no different. Extremists the lot of 'em.


User currently offlineAlberchico From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months ago) and read 2043 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 8):
They are crazy . . . just as crazy as the nutjob preacher and his followers here in the states . . . no different. Extremists the lot of 'em.

If muslims don't stand up against these nutjobs using violence in the name of their religion, then the reputation of Islam will plummet in the eyes of Westerners.


User currently offlineSchoenorama From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months ago) and read 2043 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
As QR332 would point out, this only represents a small minority of the world's 1.3 billion Muslims...But dam does this small minority scare the heck out of me.

If you recognize that these people only represent a (very) small percentage of the world's 1.3 billion Muslims, why is it you want everyone to watch the video? What's more, how come only a very small group of people is apparently able to scare the sh1t out of you?

Can't you see that you are doing exactly what this tiny minority wants you to do? You're scared sh1tless by a handfull of wackos. Worst of all, this tiny minority is responsable for your everincreasing anti-Arab and anti-Muslim sentiments. It's these few wackos who want a global Holy War and by God/Allah/whatever, you are doing exactly what they want you to do.

(BTW, Littlegreenfootballs probably is not the best source for objective info on Arabs and/or Muslims).


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months ago) and read 2031 times:

Quoting Schoenorama (Reply 10):
What's more, how come only a very small group of people is apparently able to scare the sh1t out of you?

While this is a valid point, might I remind you it was but a small group of extremists that caused some serious probmes on 9/11 . . .

Quoting Schoenorama (Reply 10):
Worst of all, this tiny minority is responsable for your everincreasing anti-Arab and anti-Muslim sentiments.

Only with the narrow minded . . .

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 9):
If muslims don't stand up against these nutjobs using violence in the name of their religion, then the reputation of Islam will plummet in the eyes of Westerners.

What concerns me to a fair degree is the relative 'inaction' of the majority of the Muslims that appear to voice their disagreement with these violent protests, yet fail - apparently - to try to do anything to stop them. In my opinion, that signifies tacet approval of the action while not putting any of the non-extremists 'on the spot' so to speak . . . it can always be said that "Well, maintstream Muslims disagree with this activity". Just a cover their ass tactic.


User currently offlineAleksandar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
does this small minority scare the heck out of me.

Well, those things are always scary, but it seems to me that the scariest thing is that we simply don't understand each others. Muslims didn't understand Scandinavian sarcasm in those cartoons, West didn't understand why are Muslims angry about and most of all, West didn't understand the level of violence in those protests, so the vicious circle is opened and can go on and on and on as long as somebody tries to understand the other side.....


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Another reason to ship em back to where they came from  Angry



Lee


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2008 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 13):
Another reason to ship em back to where they came from Angry

What jingoistic, racist, BNP-style nonsense. The vast majority of Muslims in Britain are British citizens!


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 14):
racist

Ok, well first of all, i'm not a racist  irked 

If they are immigrants then they should be deported.

If they are "british" then we should Jail them.



Lee


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1994 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 15):

If they are "british" then we should Jail them.

For, uh, exercising their right to free speech?

So in your mind, it's perfectly alright for a newspaper to print pretty insulting and derogatory cartoons, but a guy with a placard should be jailed?

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 15):
Ok, well first of all, i'm not a racist

Most certainly you are. Your implication was that the people protesting, who were by definition Muslims, weren't truly British, were immigrants and didn't belong here.


User currently offlineCedarjet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1990 times:

It was to him - RJPieces. Of course he wants us to watch it. Perhaps next time he could add a link to footage of a "Bomb Iraq" party in the US, or just cut to the chase and show what US firepower will do to an Iraqi village.

User currently offlinePIA777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

Those people are stupid. I think some of those people should be arrested
For making those threats.

PIA777


User currently offlineJacobin777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
I suggest that everyone watch as much of this film as possible.

As QR332 would point out, this only represents a small minority of the world's 1.3 billion Muslims...But dam does this small minority scare the heck out of me.



Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 2):
They don't scare you. They embolden you in your rabid pro-Israeli campaign

exactly......that's about it.....i've seen him start these kinds of threads only to leave the scene..

nothing more..


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 18):
Those people are stupid. I think some of those people should be arrested
For making those threats.

They're merely a bunch of idiots with signs. That's not a crime, and shouldn't be.


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 16):
For, uh, exercising their right to free speech?

No, not that.

Dont you remember that certain of these "British" citizens were burning the country flag?

Now that is a crime, and they should be punished for it.

This discussion is now finished.



Lee


User currently offlineMyt332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

777236ER. What would you do if you were PM? There's a problem isn't there, how would you address it?

BMIFlyer isn't racist, I know him but him and the UK are just tired of this shit.

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 16):
but a guy with a placard should be jailed?

It wasn't just a placard though was it?


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 21):
Dont you remember that certain of these "British" citizens were burning the country flag?

Now that is a crime, and they should be punished for it.

Burning the Union Flag is surely just an expression of feeling. If anyone were prosecuted for such a thing, there would be uproar.

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 21):

This discussion is now finished.

Just because someone disagrees with you? Right. Everything's black and white isn't it? Muslims are ungreatful, ship 'em all back.


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

Actually, lets look at the comments on the video shall we.....

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl..._Cartoon_Madness_on_Video#comments


Lee


25 777236ER : I assume you would want 'the asylums' to learn basic English before coming here? You'd jail people for the things they say and think?
26 Post contains images Aleksandar : Exactly. Unfortunately, there isn't a law against human stupidity, I guess.
27 PIA777 : Looked to me like they were being told to rise up and attack. Didn't you here the stupid comments they were making? I am sure the people who were wou
28 Post contains images BMIFlyer : Right, lets see.... Placards saying that those who discrace islam should be slaughtered. That is incitement to murder, and racial hatred, a crime unde
29 777236ER : The problem is quite small. And before you tell me otherwise, I'm originally from Bradford and go back to visit my parents regularly. First step? Clo
30 777236ER : The Holy Grail is also incitement to racial hatred, a crime under British law. Yet Monthy Python haven't been charged, have they? Incitement is purel
31 Myt332 : Yet it's still there and the results are fairly obvious, don't deny that. I figured that out a while back from your demeanor, maybe even your usernam
32 RJpieces : With all seriousness, how is that (or Israel) related AT ALL? Stick to the topic at hand.
33 777236ER : You figured what out? I'm white!! There is clearly an issue. But it's not as black and white as some here make out. Locking people up for what they s
34 Post contains images Myt332 : Ok well regardless you're from a place that has a diverse population and so you have attitudes that reflect that. It's true wouldn't you say? Oh yes
35 Post contains images Jacobin777 : topic at hand, which you seem to enjoy starting a typical flamebit "lets bash muslims again today"...
36 EWROwznj00 : Ahhh yes, the a.net weekly anti-Arab, anti-Islam thread, courtesy of of our own RJ. Seriously man, when are you going to stop trying to stir things up
37 RJpieces : A video of tons of Muslims screaming for more terrorist attacks in the West, and I am accused of being anti-Arab?
38 Gary2880 : LOL, it has been proclaimed. yes were built on it because we used to own most of the world, who in turn kicked us out. making, again the minority, in
39 777236ER : My views are a product mainly of my education, I think. If anything, growing up in Bradford (pretty segregated population, race riots) would give me
40 Windshear : What I think the Muslim majority should do, is to accept or at least deal with the very loud minority! I am tired of people feeling acused by us, sayi
41 BMIFlyer : If we demonstrated in say Riyadh like they did in London, we'd be shot! Lee
42 777236ER : Which doesn't really have that much to do with disenchanged Brits, does it?
43 Post contains images BMIFlyer : I was answering his question, jeez man. Lee
44 Cfalk : Nobody is making them look like nutters. They are doing a fine job all by themselves, without any help from anyone. And who started the bombing, pray
45 Gary2880 : in Iraq? good question. i have no mistrust for muslims or arabs, thanks all the same. the people who do mistrust 1.3 billion on the actions of a few
46 Arsenal@LHR : Well said Gary. When religious and racial tension is high, it is all too easy to generalise, stereotype and lump everyone in the same category. Unfor
47 Post contains images Jacobin777 : exactly, and that's why I posted my comments......its so BLATANTLY obvious!!
48 Cfalk : Go back further. Say, 10, 20, 30, 40 or more years.
49 Windshear : Sheesh Cedarjet... You are Libanese aren't u?? Glad to hear that you have been integrated so well, you say we are bombing... But these bastards are l
50 777236ER : I understand your point, but if you go back further, you can easily say the problems associated in the Middle East now all stem from the colonalism (
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