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Please Pray For Our Beloved President Bush....  
User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2823 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

http://www.presidentialprayerteam.or...e/PageServer?pagename=ppt_homepage

just found this funny religious website that encourages people to pray for leaders and our troops in harms way. Anybody thinking about doing it ???


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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2484 times:

Doesn't look very funny to me.....looks like they're pretty serious about it. In fact, in the Lutheran church we attend, GWB, other leaders, and the troops overseas were included in one of the prayers yesterday.

So the basic answer to your question is yes.

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3689 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2467 times:
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It is a very common thing for churches to pray for the political leaders as well a our men and women in the military.


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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

Yup, very common. I remember when I was little the pastor praying for Ronald Reagan and churches especially pray for our troops.

I'm not one to put a yellow magnet ribbon on my car, but praying for them is nothing new or bad.

UAL


User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

Yes, members of my coven get together and, er....focus our thoughts on the president. We try to gather up any presidential hair and fingernail clippings too.

User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2366 times:

1 Timothy 2:1-2 (NIV)
I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone - for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20tim%202;&version=31;

It doesn't matter whether you agree with the President or not. We're still supposed to pray for our leaders. Prayer doesn't have to mean you support the President's policies; you could be praying that he does something else. I try to make my prayers more neutral - asking for God to give him the wisdom it seems our current President so desperately needs.

[Edited 2006-02-28 00:04:44]


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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4845 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

No need to pray for Georgie, he has the secret service and big Karl to look after him. On top of all that I'm pretty sure Cheney's put his gun away for a little while.
 Wink

YOWza



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User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2633 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

Quoting YOWza (Reply 6):
On top of all that I'm pretty sure Cheney's put his gun away for a little while.

Bummer... we should let him keep it and send him to Afghanistan!!



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

Quoting Nkops (Reply 7):
Quoting YOWza (Reply 6):On top of all that I'm pretty sure Cheney's put his gun away for a little while.
Bummer... we should let him keep it and send him to Afghanistan!!

Along with the Bush Twins... okay, maybe not the pretty one.


BN47



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 5):
I try to make my prayers more neutral - asking for God to give him the wisdom it seems our current President so desperately needs.

I am not even sure God can deliver that one!



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9234 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2258 times:

Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
Anybody thinking about doing it ???

Hell no.

Quoting YOWza (Reply 6):
No need to pray for Georgie, he has the secret service and big Karl to look after him. On top of all that I'm pretty sure Cheney's put his gun away for a little while.

There is already and assembled Presidental Prayer Squad consisting of Pastor Deacon Fred, Rev. Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Harry Hardwick, Rev. Bob Jones Jr., and of course, Je$u$ himself.


For more information about the Presidential Prayer squad, please visit
http://www.whitehouse.org/dof/prayer.asp

Quoting Redngold (Reply 5):
It doesn't matter whether you agree with the President or not. We're still supposed to pray for our leaders.

Says who?






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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

I don't think we are obligated to pray for our leaders? Who made up that gem? I agree with StlGph. That's totally ridiculous. I don't pray for anyone or anything, and I'm sure as hell not going to pray for the prez.
Redngold- Why should we pray for our leaders? That really seems totally bizarre to me...almost totalitarian.

-Copa


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 11):
Why should we pray for our leaders?



Quoting Redngold (Reply 5):
(From 1 Timothy 2:1-2) that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.

It's not about domination and totalitarianism.



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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2215 times:

Still, I don't want to get into a pissing match, but still, what's the point? Saying that we "should pray for our leaders" just seems like a very, very alien concept to me. Something about it doesn't seem right. Honestly, I find religion very corrupted, but that is me. Maybe it just seems totally corrupt to pray for some guy who many of us will have little or no contact with.

-Copa


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9234 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2210 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 12):
It's not about domination and totalitarianism.

But if we're supposed to pray for our Kings and our rulers and it's not two fold, then it very much is about domination and totalitarianism.

Especially if you scroll down the rest of that passage you quoted where it reads this...

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20tim%202;&version=31;

11A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15But women[a] will be saved[b] through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.



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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Good find STL. I guess when quoting a source, one should look at the whole thing rather than selectively just piecing parts together for their own personal vendetta. Again, I find the whole concept of praying for leaders as a totalitarian move that is reminiscent of the Middle Ages or Iran.

-Copa


User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2162 times:

The funny part about Red flipping out is that STL got the quotes from the exact same source as Red. Again, I guess you shouldn't have linked that site if you didn't want to include everything on there. Nothing wrong w/ the reply by STL, but Red flipping out is just hilarious.

-Copa


User currently offlineKSYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2124 times:

What is wrong with praying for our leaders? Is there anything wrong with praying that they will make the right decisions?

As long as no one is forced to pray (which is pretty impossible if you ask me), I don't see a thing wrong with it.


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4845 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 8):
maybe not the pretty one.

Jenna's the rough one right?

YOWza



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User currently offlineSFOMEX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

No one is forced to pray for our leaders. Yet, most religious people agree that the person in charge of our country really needs of God's guidance... just as all of us need it!

Of course, if you believe neither in God nor in the power of prayer, praying for the president wouldn't make sense at all. Thankfully, as long as it remains optional, I don't see the problem.

BTW. Thanks for the link! It seems quite Protestant-oriented, but I'll browser it and I may join the team.  Smile


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Unfortunately that site is serious.
Considering all the sins Bush & Co. has committed and people he has killed, there aren’t enough prayers to say to save him.
Him and likeminded scumbags such as Ariel Sharon and Osama Bin Laden will spend eternity in a very hot place.



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User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

Why is Bush included in prays?  Confused  Confused

Tom.



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2017 times:

Quoting YOWza (Reply 19):
Quoting BN747 (Reply 8):maybe not the pretty one.
Jenna's the rough one right?

You got it! Brrrrrrrr......

Quoting STLGph (Reply 16):
asking for God to give him the wisdom it seems our current President so desperately needs.

If if god did...(and that's if there was a god).. but if he did, after he was done.. he'd have NONE to give anyone else--future leaders included!

BN747



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 24):
Fortunately, it is serious, because right now this nation and its leaders need a lot of help, regardless of whether you agree with their policies!

YES!!! They do! But...

1) God doesn't help political leaders, he/she knows they lie. And what makes you think he side up with US?

2) If he/she's anything like Jesus... he'd be hanging about in Haiti, Rwanda, Peru and Papua New Guinea!

Yes, they do need... but it won't be coming from above or whereever it comes from.


Pray all you want.. and watch what happens...nada!


BN747
Heathen/Non-Believer



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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 26):
God doesn't help political leaders, he/she knows they lie.

Do you know better than God? God has helped liars in the past... King David being the greatest of them by his own acknowledgement.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 26):
And what makes you think he side up with US?

I never said that he would "take sides." In fact, I have a real problem with the flag-waving "God Bless America" contingent. Every single person on this earth needs God's blessings and those blessings include peace and safety. The U.S. does not have a monopoly on spiritual blessings.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 26):
If he/she's anything like Jesus... he'd be hanging about in Haiti, Rwanda, Peru and Papua New Guinea!

Again, do you know better than God? But I have to agree in the sense that I'd prefer the U.S. focus on humanitarian missions rather than "preemptive action" in the form of military warfare.
Here's a thought: Perhaps if more people prayed for our leaders, the U.S. would be helping in the places you mentioned, and the ones you didn't, such as Darfur.

P.S.: I just realized that some people here would think that I would call him "Beloved President Bush" simply because I pray for him. I don't love him, I don't support his policies and I never voted for him. Take away all of that political nonsense. I pray for him because he is faced with critical decisions that will affect not only my life, but the lives of people all over this nation and the earth.

[Edited 2006-03-03 01:46:21]


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25 Copaair737 : I'd have to agree with my buddy BN, God would be in some impoverished place like Bolivia or Haiti or Africa if he/she/it were around. This is nonsense
26 Post contains images PA110 : Thank you Red', You've just made my day!
27 BN747 : You can't be serious... but I get the feeling you are. Do you think for a New York second that poor impoverished people WORLDWIDE have NOT been prayi
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