AirEuropeUK733 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 12 Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1389 times:
What is it at the moment - are people giving up A.net for lent (or have there been some major bust ups I've missed out on?)
AirEuropeUK733 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 12 Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1374 times:
Cornish is right though - the Civ-Av is full of idiots (present company excepted), and whereas the Non-Av used to be light-hearted and fun, it sometimes has an undercurrent of bitching and tension.
7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 43 Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1365 times:
It's a real shame. Hopefully he'll still come to the meet??
As for CivAv. It is getting crappy. But I still try to post in there, but have really missed the likes of yourselves responding to my threads. We can make CivAv better you know. (not us three, I mean the intelligent membership. (And Pe@rson)
7L
Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
Cornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 56 Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1345 times:
I have to admit while i posted frequently in Civ. av in the past, my postings there these days are few and far between. Even with the likes of Orion gone, there are still enough no-it-alls who've not even come close to wrking in the industry who know best - that i can accept - what i can't accept is the complete refusal to engage in intelligent debate and listen to reasoned argument.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - anyone who has a deep and loud hatred of a particular airliner family just because it is a rival to their favourite airliners is no aviation enthusiast and should really have no place here. But the place is getting taken over by people who have a "sports team" approach to their likes and dislikes and frankly it's getting very tiresome.
If it wasn't for the some of the funnier threads in Non.av and some good people still here (but there numbers are thinning) and the occasional good thread in Civ. Av. I'd be a very infrequent visitor on here too
Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
AirEuropeUK733 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 12 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1333 times:
Quoting Cornish (Reply 7): If it wasn't for the some of the funnier threads in Non.av and some good people still here (but there numbers are thinning) and the occasional good thread in Civ. Av. I'd be a very infrequent visitor on here too
Couldn't have put it better myself - my participation in Civ Av is pretty much non-existant. Whilst I am no aviation expert like certain other people on the forums (Cornish, 7L, Slamclick etc) and I do not work in the industry I like to think that I have some factually based information to share based upon my interest and age.
I have learned so much from this site, it would be a shame if other new members couldn't find it equally as useful.
Me too 7L, just been away for a couple of days. Back online now..
Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 5): As for CivAv. It is getting crappy. But I still try to post in there, but have really missed the likes of yourselves responding to my threads. We can make CivAv better you know. (not us three, I mean the intelligent membership. (And Pe@rson)
I agree with this. There are too many Orion's, and that makes it pretty dull. trying to reason with the arguments of a 12yr old from the middle of nowhere isn't that entertaining.
Gofly From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 1727 posts, RR: 46 Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1223 times:
The sad thing is, is that A.net is just not worth the time anymore.
Any remotely sensible discussion in Civ-Av is quickly ruined by some A vs B or other ridiculous comment. I suppose the best thing would be if nobody responded to the idiots post, however that would be unreasonable to ask. And I personally, probably wouldn't be able to hold back.
With Whitehatter leaving, we lose another knowledgeable member. I hope the trend doesn't continue.
Living the high life on my ex-Airliners.net Moderator pension...
7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 43 Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1148 times:
Quoting Gofly (Reply 13): The sad thing is, is that A.net is just not worth the time anymore.
Indeed. A qucik scan of CivAv now shows numerous topics which have been discussed before, pointless "Future destination/fleet..." threads, and other A vs B crap.
Very sad indeed.
Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
Egmcman From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 898 posts, RR: 9 Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1119 times:
Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 14): Indeed. A qucik scan of CivAv now shows numerous topics which have been discussed before, pointless "Future destination/fleet..." threads, and other A vs B crap.
Very sad indeed
I'm glad it's not just me that thought over last few days. Sorry to see Whitehatter go.
Skidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 60 Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1106 times:
And I thought it was just me!!
Well, I'm still around, if a little shellshocked from the course I'm doing at the moment!
I rarely read much in Civ-Av any more as it is so full of drivel. You have to look darn hard for the serious and informative threads. And Non-av is like a minefield - step out of line and BANG!! Of you go on an enforced sabbatical.
Maybe A.net is getting too serious about itself? Anyway, I'll still be at the YYZ meet and the MAN meet, so I hope to see many of you there.
Aerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4634 posts, RR: 51 Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1098 times:
I'm saddened that Rsmith is no longer posting.....
BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 18 Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1071 times:
Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 16): Maybe A.net is getting too serious about itself? Anyway, I'll still be at the YYZ meet and the MAN meet, so I hope to see many of you there.
I shall look forward to meeting you both at MAN meet and meeting many others, as I am definitely still going (and waiting to hear about the meal arrangements that Alex had taken on the organisation). My flight and hotel are booked anyway. The MAN Mass Meet thread has quietened down but no doubt it will spring back to life nearer the date.
It is sad that some of the best posters have taken a sabbatical from a.net and even FR Defender is not posting frequently now he is at university in the strange land called Wales. I also miss JGPHA16, whose posts often made me laugh. Hopefully, they will all soon be back. I do not think a.net is getting too serious about itself. Like with many new things, the novelty wears off after a while but there are still thousands of people out there and their interest in civil aviation probably still exists. Start a thread on something like UK charter carriers from the 1980s, and maybe some UK members might wake up!
MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4088 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1053 times:
To be honest, i only really look at the threads in civ av that interest me, usually about aviation in the UK or about a new route or something like that. Simply because that is news - fact - and shouldn't turn into a dispute. I don't bother with a thread saying "Will the *** blah blah?" because i know eventually it will turn into some random A vs. B argument. In what i look at, and post in, i have no real problem with Civ av.
Also, there is the case of money - I for one would not be here if i had to pay, and many probably feel that its not worth it if they're having to pay $55 or whatever it is a year to be on this forum. Luckily, i signed up when the site was free to use
StuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1041 times:
Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 19): Thanks for your marvellous contribution to the thread newbie.
You're quite welcome! And what does the fact that I have "only" been here 4 months and made "only" 878 posts have to do with anything? I had enough discussions with Whitehatter during the time I've been a member and reading his posts since LONG before you joined to know what he was about.
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4088 posts, RR: 13 Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1029 times:
Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 23): And what does the fact that I have "only" been here 4 months and made "only" 878 posts have to do with anything?
The fact that you have too much free time on your hands?
25 Nordair: And WE know what you're about too! It's just too bad that there isn't enough Imodium in this world for all of us to balance your presence.
26 Cornish: And then you would know that he actually made relevent and informative posts into Civ.Av that some people can learn from - thanks to having actually
27 AirEuropeUK733: Just sharpening my quill now Do you really want the celestial being back? AE733
28 7LBAC111: My point exactly. StuckinMAF - Whitehatter is a big loss to this site. And your comment was needless. 7L
29 StuckinMAF: Really now, it was his decision to go and I respect him for that decision. But things change and this may be a positive change for him. It's better t
30 Nordair: Glass houses should not throw stones! The foolish and injudicious comments you constantly make shows that you have very little respect for anyone any
31 7LBAC111: My point was that Whitehatter deciding to cancel his membership is a significant loss to the site, whether he chose to leave or felt compelled to. Fr
32 StuckinMAF: No problem, pal! Let's carry on and hope that Whitehatter and some of the others know that they are always welcome, should they decide to return!
33 Skidmarks: I have a sneaking suspicion that Whitehatter and others won't return to A.net as they have found a different place to communicate. Andy
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