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What Do You Hate About Your Government?  
User currently offlineIsuA380B777 From New Zealand, joined May 2005, 169 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

Just a simple question.... Why are we always hating our governments?

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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3732 times:

Well ours seem to be focussing on becoming a nanny state rather than sorting out the real problems. Spending money on advertising campaigns telling us to eat less salt, when anti-social behaviour is still rampant. Utterly pointless.

Additionally, they never really do anything that was promised when we elected them last year.



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39861 posts, RR: 74
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3727 times:

Quoting IsuA380B777 (Thread starter):
Why are we always hating our governments?

Our government here in the United States is ran by Bush and his thugs in the Republican Party. Need I say more?



Bring back the Concorde
User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39861 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3723 times:

Mhodgson :
Tell your leader Tony Blair that he has his tongue up the wrong ass.
Dubya & Co is the wrong leader to kiss up to.
Then again, the UK hasn't accepted the fact that they are no longer a world superpower so kissing up to our government is the best they can do to feel as if it still is.


We wish we had your problems.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineKerberos From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3692 times:

The CRTC - the Canadian equivalent of the FCC.


This is your captain speaking. I’ve turned off the no-smokin’ sign. Hell, if the plane is smokin' why can't you?
User currently offlineMiCorazonAzul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3688 times:

I rather not say....list is WAY TOO long, why waste valuable bandwidth?  Wink

User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3663 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 1):
Well ours seem to be focussing on becoming a nanny state rather than sorting out the real problems. Spending money on advertising campaigns telling us to eat less salt, when anti-social behaviour is still rampant. Utterly pointless.

 checkmark 

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 1):
Additionally, they never really do anything that was promised when we elected them last year.

Not just last year, remember all the promises from the first and second election that Blair won  Sad


Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3503 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

Its perpetuation of imperialistic policies that have adversely affected the lives of countless non-citizens throughout its history.


Next Flight: 9/17 BFI-BFI
User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6434 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

Quoting IsuA380B777 (Thread starter):
Why are we always hating our governments?

Actually I don't.

In fact I voted for it.

I put my vote personally on our present minister of financial affairs, and he never let me down.

I could have been voting on our PM if only he had been running in my district.



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3645 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):
Our government here in the United States is ran by Bush and his thugs in the Republican Party. Need I say more?

I'm really starting to hope that Hillary or some other liberal gets elected next time around, and that the democrats take control of Congress. I can't wait to see whom you'll blame then when things aren't just the way you want them to be. Fortunately I'm mature enough to know that 8 years is not enough time to do any lasting damage to any country the size and scope of the United States.

As to the topic. I don't hate our government. I just wish it were a lot smaller and did just those things the Constitution says it should do. Instead of the monster that it has become over the decades. It have taken much that were supposedly states rights.


User currently offlineNKP S2 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

They're corporate hacks and concubines. Have been for years regardless of the party which dominates. Abit of an oversimplification...but not by a whole helluva lot.

User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4883 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3639 times:

Quoting Kerberos (Reply 4):
The CRTC - the Canadian equivalent of the FCC.

Indeed.

We also need to loosen up aviation regulations in this country. Sure it will bitch slap AC and WS but at least I won't have to pay a million dollars in taxes to fly Ottawa-Calgary.

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 9):
I can't wait to see whom you'll blame then when things aren't just the way you want them to be.

They will just blame the Republicans for attempting to "sabotage" their reforms. Politics never change. The party in power attempts to push its agenda while the party out of power does all it can to stop them. Then they point fingers at each other, blaming everyone but themselves when things go wrong.

Quoting IsuA380B777 (Thread starter):
What Do You Hate About Your Government?

The Washington, D.C. Air Defense Identification Zone:
http://www.aopa.org/images/whatsnew/newsitems/2006/notams/6-2238.jpg
Established to provide enhanced security for the skies over the capital, the ADIZ is, in my opinion, a shining example of bureaucracy run amok. All it has done is increase the workload of the area's ATC. Don't get me started on those Presidential and Sporting Event TFRs.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3622 times:

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 12):
Established to provide enhanced security for the skies over the capital, the ADIZ is, in my opinion, a shining example of bureaucracy run amok. All it has done is increase the workload of the area's ATC. Don't get me started on those Presidential and Sporting Event TFRs.

How many times have you personally flown through the ADIZ? It isn't that bad at all and certainly not as bad as AOPA tries to make it out to be.

We live in a different world. Not being able to fly my Cessna next to the Washington monument is a luxury I'm willing to give up in order to provide more security.



Crye me a river
User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3607 times:



A picture says a 1000 words!  vomit 



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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3605 times:

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 13):
It isn't that bad at all and certainly not as bad as AOPA tries to make it out to be.

I do realize that AOPA tends to get a bit, shall we say, exuberant at times.  Wink

At any rate, I do realize that some things will never be the same again. But I fail to see how the complicated procedures for flight into/out of the DC ADIZ will prevent anything. All "they" have to do is jump through all the hoops, and then strike their target.

If we allow this to slide, what's next?  worried 


User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3602 times:

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 15):
I do realize that AOPA tends to get a bit, shall we say, exuberant at times.

 checkmark  yes 

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 15):
But I fail to see how the complicated procedures for flight into/out of the DC ADIZ will prevent anything.

I can understand where you're coming from here. I know it doesn't seem like much because in reality all someone has to do is take off from DCA and go right towards where they want to hit. No fighter will ever make it on time.

But, the positive side of it is that it really does take out the general aviation traffic in the area. Its a pain to those who want to fly in privately, but to decongest the skies that much really provides a lot of help for ATC to monitor the commercial and military flights that can come in and out. I know this may still be paying lip service to the theory, but it IS doing something.

Hopefully one day we can do something better. They've already started a program with intense lights that will shine at those who cross the ADIZ. Of course, if you're trying to cross it, what the hell difference does it make if someone shines a light in your eyes? But, its creative nonetheless.



Crye me a river
User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4277 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3595 times:

Quoting IsuA380B777 (Thread starter):
Just a simple question.... Why are we always hating our governments?

I do not hate the government. I am dissilussioned by our representatives. They have been bought and sold three times over or more. They do not represent the people anymore, they represent their corporate or special interests. I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen the Honorable Representative from Texas' 22nd District Presented by ExxonMobil or the UAW Senator from Massachusetts. There is too much crap and corruption in politics; there are too many "representatives" willing to whore themselves out to the highest bidder instead of truly sticking up for what is right and doing good by us.

Politics is a dirty, rotten business. I've been waist deep in it; I'll be up to my neck in it before too long. Fact is, we need people who are willing to stick up for We the People. We need candidates who will not follow the party line and who will vote for what is right. We need people who are willing to take on the system in its current state, who will wade into the water and help right the ship. Those people will have shit coming at them from all sides and will have to be ready to accept it. It is a tough responsibility and one that requires dedication, a tough stomach, and strong support built up over time. We can change it all. The question is are we willing to stick our necks out and try.

Texan



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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3593 times:

Quoting IsuA380B777 (Thread starter):
What Do You Hate About Your Government?

Nothing at the moment.

Quoting IsuA380B777 (Thread starter):
Why are we always hating our governments?

'Why' is a philosophical question and usualy gets scapegoated but is almost never is the answer. Ask 'what', 'who', 'when', 'where', and 'how' and you will get an answer, one that hopfully changes per person.

If not, then there may be too many 'bandwagoneers'. Big grin



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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3578 times:

*the current government is 50%social and 50%liberal? It's like mixing choclolate milk with a coke.
*The way they manage to get BRU as an unattractive place as can be.
*giving up Sabena, thus my cockpit job.
*promises never made.
*21% taxrate.
*8000 flashing poles in Flanders and only 5 in Wallonia.
*superfines. (130km/h and you pay €50, 180km/h is €1000 and you loose your permit)
*annually high road and cartaxes,(€2000 for me) followed by:
*bad highways accesible free of charge for every foreigner.
*incredibly high gasprices.
*every state thing is still a stupid paper instead of a fast internet transaction.
*the fast Belgian law.
*no referendums allowed.
etc.
*oh yes and my extra tax bill of €980 I recieved last week.

Belgium, you gotta love it!

[Edited 2006-03-01 05:20:44]

User currently offlinePIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

Because they waste our hard earned money. They only care about the rich
(New Orleans!!!) and they Lie and cheat to our faces!!!

PIA777



GO CUBS!!
User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 16):
Hopefully one day we can do something better.

Agreed. My background in corrections has taught me that the simple solution is often the best. Maybe I should be a consultant...  scratchchin   silly 


User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3542 times:

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 21):
Maybe I should be a consultant...

You'd probably be able to advise better than half the idiots in that city.



Crye me a river
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