Luisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2577 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2659 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 5): Hey if it wasn't for the consistent hot weather and huge anacondas, I'd immigrate to your awesome country.
Mild weather and anaconda free place is what Caracas is. Been living here 80% of my life.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 5): his priorities is certainly more important that Dubya & Co's.
January 2009 can't come fast enough.
Bush's priority is to give out oil contacts in Iraq to Halliburton and Castro's main priority is to crush any democractic movement in order to remain in power. Thankfully for you, Bush isn't chasing down and incarcelating his opponents. The freedom of speech and thought that you enjoy in the USA is far better than what any Cuban has (if they have any).
The thing is Superfly, that the fact that you hate Bush so much shouldn't automatically be a cause of support for wackos like Castro and Chavez. Venezuela is suffering Superfly, do you know how many people ring my house bell per week asking for spare food? do you know how many homeless children I see roaming around Caracas's trafficlights each day asking for spare change? The poor are getting poorer Superfly, I'm not lying. Come to Caracas and I'll gladly show you. Chavez is only a populist leader with a nice rethoric speech based on hating Bush. How can it be possible that Chavez blamed Bush for the collapse of the bridge that linked CCS with the city?
Miamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 5): Even though Fidel Castro in La Habana has his faults, his priorities is certainly more important that Dubya & Co's.
January 2009 can't come fast enough.
Why don't you go and enjoy Fidel's hospitality until then? I would be more than happy to pay your way. BTW, while you are there, live like a Cuban, not a tourist. Work and earn their wages, and spend your money on what you can find. And last, but certainly not least, rant about Fidel a tad less than you rant about Bush, I am sure you will win yourself the best hospitality on the Isle of Youth.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40298 posts, RR: 73
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2632 times:
Quoting Miamiair (Reply 10): Why don't you go and enjoy Fidel's hospitality until then? I would be more than happy to pay your way.
Been there done that.
I don't care for the constant hot & humid climates.
We have our fair share of panhandlers here in the USA.
If your elected leader is so bad, what were the conditions to allow him to get elected? Then restored to power after a failed US supported coupe attempt?
Derico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4366 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2540 times:
Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 16): No, really, I understand that several of the proudest nationalities are here in Latin America. They should have at least included the region's most populated countries to really get an idea.
And I would dare to say that most of the countries in the region would come away as more patriotic than Argentines are, even if popular legend says otherwise!
I think Brazilians, Chileans, Peruvians, and Mexicans are far more nationalistic for sure. You seldom hear them talk bad about their country overseas, whereas Argentines dish out the dirty laundry all over the place: when they travel and talk to others, in the tv shows (about the struggles of the middle class instead of soaps all about the rich and well off), in the movies (ditto), music lyrics, etc.
A reason why in most of the world people know so much about the bad stuff in the country.
My internet was not shut down, the internet has shut me down
Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2429 times:
Interesting to note that these countries at the top of the list tend to be relatively new nations with a definable "birth". Even Austria falls partially into that category.
But to answer why European nations might not be overtly patriotic or nationalistic, it's going to vary by country. The fear of nationalism argument due to WWII really only applies to one country. Generally, perhaps we're just more content within ourselves and don't need to shout about why it is that any of our nations are inherently superior simply due to the fact that we live in them.
Or as someone once said, the Americans will tell the world that they're the best, the British will keep quiet, because they know that they're the best.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.