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Venezuela And USA: Proudest Nationalities  
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2570 posts, RR: 31
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2164 times:

The US National Opinion research center has determined that Venezuelans are the people that feel most proud about their country, they are closely followed by Americans.

The list goes on like this:

Venezuela
USA
Australia
Austria
Chile

Europeans countries are located at the bottom of the list, researchers said. Maybe this has to do with them feeling more European?

That's all I wanted to share with you guys, I found it very interesting.

Source (SPANISH)
http://www.eluniversal.com/2006/03/01/pol_ava_01A678011.shtml

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis

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User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
Europeans countries are located at the bottom of the list, researchers said. Maybe this has to do with them feeling more European?

Maybe there is nothing to be proud of?  Wink



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User currently offlineAirbuzz From Canada, joined Jan 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 1):
Maybe there is nothing to be proud of?

Maybe Europeans are more objective?  Wink


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39685 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

Interesting.
The people of Venezuela also have a leader they can be proud of too.
VIVA CHAVEZ!!!

Our current is a national shame.  Sad



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2570 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2099 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
The people of Venezuela also have a leader they can be proud of too.

We have a puppet leader to be ashamed of. The actual leader sits in Habana.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):

Our current is a national shame.

He is...


Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39685 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2096 times:

Luisde8cd:
Hey if it wasn't for the consistent hot weather and huge anacondas, I'd immigrate to your awesome country.  Smile

Even though Fidel Castro in La Habana has his faults, his priorities is certainly more important that Dubya & Co's.
January 2009 can't come fast enough.


Viva la revolucion!  Cool



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2570 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Hey if it wasn't for the consistent hot weather and huge anacondas, I'd immigrate to your awesome country.

Mild weather and anaconda free place is what Caracas is. Been living here 80% of my life.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
his priorities is certainly more important that Dubya & Co's.
January 2009 can't come fast enough.

Bush's priority is to give out oil contacts in Iraq to Halliburton and Castro's main priority is to crush any democractic movement in order to remain in power. Thankfully for you, Bush isn't chasing down and incarcelating his opponents. The freedom of speech and thought that you enjoy in the USA is far better than what any Cuban has (if they have any).

The thing is Superfly, that the fact that you hate Bush so much shouldn't automatically be a cause of support for wackos like Castro and Chavez. Venezuela is suffering Superfly, do you know how many people ring my house bell per week asking for spare food? do you know how many homeless children I see roaming around Caracas's trafficlights each day asking for spare change? The poor are getting poorer Superfly, I'm not lying. Come to Caracas and I'll gladly show you. Chavez is only a populist leader with a nice rethoric speech based on hating Bush. How can it be possible that Chavez blamed Bush for the collapse of the bridge that linked CCS with the city?

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineB707321C From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
Europeans countries are located at the bottom of the list, researchers said. Maybe this has to do with them feeling more European?

Could be, but also something to do with WWII and the danger of nationalism.


User currently offlinePelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Quoting B707321C (Reply 7):
Could be, but also something to do with WWII and the danger of nationalism.

Sure, but why are the Austrians on the fourth rank?

pelican


User currently offlineJush From Germany, joined Apr 2005, 1636 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2069 times:

Quoting Pelican (Reply 8):
Sure, but why are the Austrians on the fourth rank?

Cause Austrians are a neutral state and they are kind of weird anyway...
Must have to do with the remote location behind the alps and te contact to eastern Europe  Wink

Regds
jush

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User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Even though Fidel Castro in La Habana has his faults, his priorities is certainly more important that Dubya & Co's.
January 2009 can't come fast enough.

Why don't you go and enjoy Fidel's hospitality until then? I would be more than happy to pay your way. BTW, while you are there, live like a Cuban, not a tourist. Work and earn their wages, and spend your money on what you can find. And last, but certainly not least, rant about Fidel a tad less than you rant about Bush, I am sure you will win yourself the best hospitality on the Isle of Youth.


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39685 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 10):
Why don't you go and enjoy Fidel's hospitality until then? I would be more than happy to pay your way.

Been there done that.
I don't care for the constant hot & humid climates.


Luisde8cd:
We have our fair share of panhandlers here in the USA.
If your elected leader is so bad, what were the conditions to allow him to get elected? Then restored to power after a failed US supported coupe attempt?



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2041 times:

Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 1):
Maybe there is nothing to be proud of?

I think they have a lot to be proud of...what a wonderful Continent Europe is and what a constant lesson they give to all of us everyday.



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User currently offlineAirbuzz From Canada, joined Jan 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Quoting Bongo (Reply 12):
I think they have a lot to be proud of...what a wonderful Continent Europe is and what a constant lesson they give to all of us everyday.

It smells a bit of irony... can you elaborate a bit?


User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2027 times:

Airbuzz:

No. It is not irony, just I like Europe and the way they "work together" as one Country and they way they live.

[Edited 2006-03-07 20:12:07]


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User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 40
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1996 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
The list goes on like this:

Venezuela
USA
Australia
Austria
Chile

...Chile is 5th ? That result doesn't surprises me  Wink  biggrin 



Whatever
User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

y Chile (17,1), el otro país latinoamericano encuestado.

The article then states that among Latin American countries, only Chile and Venezuela were measured. Now that wouldn't be fair, would it?

No, really, I understand that several of the proudest nationalities are here in Latin America. They should have at least included the region's most populated countries to really get an idea.



SOUTHAMERICA


User currently onlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4295 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 16):
No, really, I understand that several of the proudest nationalities are here in Latin America. They should have at least included the region's most populated countries to really get an idea.

And I would dare to say that most of the countries in the region would come away as more patriotic than Argentines are, even if popular legend says otherwise!

I think Brazilians, Chileans, Peruvians, and Mexicans are far more nationalistic for sure. You seldom hear them talk bad about their country overseas, whereas Argentines dish out the dirty laundry all over the place: when they travel and talk to others, in the tv shows (about the struggles of the middle class instead of soaps all about the rich and well off), in the movies (ditto), music lyrics, etc.

A reason why in most of the world people know so much about the bad stuff in the country.



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User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

What a load of crap!

People are proud of their countries for different reasons and express this pride in different ways. Some countries are bold and loud, some are modest.

Pure garbage! I can't believe good money was wasted on that.



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User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

Quoting Bongo (Reply 12):
I think they have a lot to be proud of...what a wonderful Continent Europe is and what a constant lesson they give to all of us everyday.

Tongue in cheek my friend.



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4863 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
Australia

Yeah but I'd imagine this is directly proportional to the quality of play being shown by the Wallabies  Wink Pretty low right now.

YOWza



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

Interesting to note that these countries at the top of the list tend to be relatively new nations with a definable "birth". Even Austria falls partially into that category.

But to answer why European nations might not be overtly patriotic or nationalistic, it's going to vary by country. The fear of nationalism argument due to WWII really only applies to one country. Generally, perhaps we're just more content within ourselves and don't need to shout about why it is that any of our nations are inherently superior simply due to the fact that we live in them.

Or as someone once said, the Americans will tell the world that they're the best, the British will keep quiet, because they know that they're the best.  Wink



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