Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
The Brothers Are Doin' It For Themselves?  
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

There is a certain merit to celebrating diversity.

However, when so much of a certain culture embraces what is deemed the "seedy underside" of American life, what are the limits of this celebration?

Absolute equality demands that we celebrate the pimp along with the President.

But there are those who believe that Hollywood is reversing progress in the name of advancing it.

See:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2006/03/06/AR2006030601461.html

6 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineSantosdumont From Brazil, joined Dec 2003, 1201 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
when so much of a certain culture embraces what is deemed the "seedy underside" of American life, what are the limits of this celebration?

A key question here is exactly which is the "culture" doing the embracing...

Given the content of the Washington Post article, it appears that a significant number of African-Americans (rightfully) found the decision to award the Oscar to that song questionable.

Which brings back the question about the identity of the culture doing the "embracing." I suspect that about the only people celebrating this particular Oscar are weak-minded buffoons and impressionable kids who aspire to nothing more than becoming contemporary Stepin Fetchits.

Oh, and the marketing people at certain record labels are probably happy too...seeing their prefabricated "culture" being rewarded by the cubic zirconia that is the Academy.



"Pursuit Of Truth No Matter Where It Lies" -- Metallica
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1484 times:

Yes, and the superficiality that the Academy has shown has turned many people completely off.

I, for one, did not like Chris Rock as a presenter, but neither did I like the last one, Jon Stewart. Neither of them have any gravitas. There is a thin line between self-deprecation and facile silliness, and that line has been crossed.

When Hollywood fails to take itself very seriously anymore, why should anyone else?


User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4683 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1483 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
I, for one, did not like Chris Rock as a presenter, but neither did I like the last one, Jon Stewart. Neither of them have any gravitas.

You do not offer a suggestion as to who the presenter should be, why is this?



"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1476 times:

Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 3):
You do not offer a suggestion as to who the presenter should be, why is this?

I think it should be someone with experience.

Don't laugh -- I think Bob Barker should be considered. He's been on forever, and he has a sense of humor.

No, he isn't "hip". But so?

If not Bob, then someone with more intellectual experience than Jon Stewart. Not a comic.

If a comic, someone comparable to Bob Hope.

If not a comic, and if not Bob Barker, then someone comparable to David Niven, who once actually did host the Oscars.

Jon Stewart is no David Niven.

[Edited 2006-03-07 20:02:44]

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

Quote:
When Christine Smith heard the song "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp" announced as the Oscar winner for best original song on Sunday night's telecast, she almost fell off the sofa in her Arlington living room.

We sure have come a long way since "Over the Rainbow"



I think we're not in Kansas anymore...


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
We sure have come a long way since "Over the Rainbow"

Agreed. It seems that not only is Hollywood not representative of American mainstream culture, it proudly defies it.

Which is fine, in and of itself, but why should anyone be surprised if ratings for the Oscars therefore decline?

The Oscars are not simply not actually hip, and no amount of attempted hippification, through use of Rock or Stewart, will make it so. Rather, the more I see of the Oscars, the more I am reminded of the Rolling Stones -- aged and increasingly, in my view, neither effectively, nor comedically, but simply tragically, hip.


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Oh Dearie Me. The English Are At It Again :S posted Tue Sep 13 2005 14:10:31 by Gkirk
The Tigers Are For Real posted Mon Jun 26 2006 15:34:18 by Stretch 8
Let's Hear It For The Mammoths posted Wed Feb 1 2006 23:40:17 by Birdwatching
Irish, Where Are You Going For The 3-day Weekend? posted Fri Oct 22 2004 08:41:18 by UTA_flyingHIGH
Let's Hear It For The Locals....Fallujah posted Wed Oct 13 2004 08:27:51 by Boeing7E7
Are You Ready For The Cicadas? posted Thu May 6 2004 18:20:52 by ArmitageShanks
Why The Bush Memo & It's Response Are BS posted Sun Apr 11 2004 05:45:43 by Artsyman
What Is The Most You Would Pay For It? posted Thu Mar 25 2004 04:08:39 by Mirrodie
What Are Your Plans For The Weekend? posted Sat Feb 21 2004 02:38:57 by Jkw777
Lord Of The Rings-are You Going To See It? posted Mon Dec 15 2003 02:15:44 by Espion007