RootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4180 posts, RR: 44 Posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2811 times:
Hi there
In Latin america there is a big culture around music. Not only with each country's folk music but also Pop, Rock etc. There are such excellent groups overthere( Los Fabulosos cadillacs...yay they rule, Soda Estereo, CafetaCuba, mana, etc ) and many many great singers (Silvion Rodriguez, Andres Calamaro, vicentico, Fito Paez, Pablo milanes, only to name a few) but very few have actually become famous in non spanish speaking countries.... Examples are Ricky Martin, Shakira and more recentléy Juanes.....
With Juanes as an exception its too bad to see that the only Latino Music that's exported is far far from the best that we can have in Latin America.(and now is all this VERY BIG JUNK Reggaeton)
Look Ricky Martin, had to sing in english and totally change his style(now its more RnB). Shakira isn't the one singer I used to like. She dyed her hair blonde to conquer a larger public, she started to sing in english, she sang many less songs with her guitar.
The only one singer I like that became really famous outside a spanish speaking country is Juanes. He has become famous with his pop/rock with Latino and Colombian music influence alwayshaving his guitar with him. And most important ,he's become famous singing ONLY IN SPANISH(and says he intends to leave things as they are) !I have great respect for him unlike the others that have had to change their image to become more famous. Juanes has known how to remain himself.
And you fellow A.netters, what do you think of those Latin American stars that have become famous outside of spanish speaking countries ?
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LOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2805 times:
I only know Shakira, Ricky Martin, Enrique Iglesias and who else? Gloria Estefan and Marc Anthony by name and a couple songs. I hate all of them except Shakira. Infact I dont like any kind of Reggeaton/RnB etc so I have no interest in it, infact I dont like Latin music to begin with. I dont relate to it neither can I understand it.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 19265 posts, RR: 63 Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2805 times:
Jetset25j From New Zealand, joined Feb 2006, 156 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2786 times:
Some of Shakira's spanish songs are great. La Tortura (o m g that woman can move!) and "No" are my favorites of hers. I dont like any of her english songs as I find them too "popish" and have no soul to them.
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Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5095 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2755 times:
I love latin american music, my favourite being reggaeton. I am partial to music with a distinct catchy rythym cause I love to dance. I hate when i go to a party and they play alternative or maybe endless electronica, though a little of that isn't too bad.
Derico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4233 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2755 times:
Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 1): its too bad to see that the only Latino Music that's exported is far far from the best that we can have in Latin America.(and
What do you mean? Like the following?...
Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 1): I only know Shakira, Ricky Martin, Enrique Iglesias and who else? Gloria Estefan and Marc Anthony by name and a couple songs
Quoting Jetset25j (Reply 3): Some of Shakira's spanish songs are great.
Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 5): Ricky Martin is very cute. He could put the 'b' in my bounce
And this is all one needs to know about this topic.
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To give North American and European members here an idea of how the list of 'stars' above that are known in Europe and North America sounds, read the following:
"...From Europe and the USA I know of Vanilla-Ice, Barry Manilow, Spice Girls, Aqua, Air Supply, Cher, Rick Astley, Fabian, Simple Plan, William Hung, William Shatner, Paula Abdul... and Paula Abdul is cute..."
Now everyone should understand.
I'm not making fun of you guys, but let's just say that what the big corporations have told you constitutes the best of 'latin' music, is beyond putrid...
Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter): Los Fabulosos cadillacs...yay they rule, Soda Estereo, CafetaCuba, mana, etc ) and many many great singers (Silvion Rodriguez, Andres Calamaro, vicentico, Fito Paez,
Well everyone agrees that Argentina's is strongest in the modern rock, electronic, and new folk scene. So I'm not surprised most people like Fito Paez, Soda, Fab Cads, Andres, etc. Specially if you grew up as a teen in the 80s, when Argentine rock took over Latin American radio.
There are many really good groups now too (La Portuaria, Pez, Babasonicos, Indio Solari, Divididos). Of course like everywhere else, people find the music they group up with as the best. A lot of people say 70s Argentine rock was even better than the 80s stuff everyone knows about.
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Flyingbabydoc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2750 times:
Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter): And you fellow A.netters, what do you think of those Latin American stars that have become famous outside of spanish speaking countries ?
Well, you seem to have forgotten that Brazil is a part of Latin America, even though we don't speak spanish... And brazilian music is FAR more recognized and known in the rest of the world.
From Bossa Nova (Joao Gilberto, Astrud Gilberto, Nara Leao) to Samba (countless... Beth Carvalho, Alcione) to pop music old and new (Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil, Marina) to heavy metal (Sepultura) to Lounge (Brazilian lounge, chill Brazil) I am fairly confident that Brazilian music (latin), is well represented.
At least it drives foreigners crazy when they visit the country...
Yes, but usually Brazilian music is taken separately, because it is so wide ranging. Is actually a compliment.
Even as the music in most of South America is quite different between areas, but most specially between the Southern Cone and the rest of the region, many still just group it together.
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Flyingbabydoc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2741 times:
Quoting Derico (Reply 9): Yes, but usually Brazilian music is taken separately, because it is so wide ranging. Is actually a compliment.
Well, thank you for that compliment. I just wanted to make a point that Brazil is still a part of Latin America - even though many "hermanos" think otherwise.
Oh, my bad. However, I'm totally uninterested in Latin music - that is not to say that I think it is stupid, worthless or whatever. I just haven't listened to enough Latin music to form an opinion. It is probably easier to cultivate a taste for Latin music when in Latin America. My three weeks in Mexico and Guatamala in 1998, though extremely enjoyable, don't really count for much as a 'Latin music experience'.
Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter): And you fellow A.netters, what do you think of those Latin American stars that have become famous outside of spanish speaking countries ?
FSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 14 Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2716 times:
I'm a big fan of Jorge Drexler (first spanish song to win an Oscar--only the assholes wouldn't him sing there).
Derico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4233 posts, RR: 13 Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2713 times:
Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 11): Oh, my bad. However, I'm totally uninterested in Latin music - that is not to say that I think it is stupid, worthless or whatever.
No problem really! Considering what music FM and video channels make North Americans and Europeans listen to, I'm not surprise people would have no interest whatsoever, and worthless. hehe.
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Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter): There are such excellent groups overthere( Los Fabulosos cadillacs...yay they rule, Soda Estereo, CafetaCuba, mana, etc ) and many many great singers (Silvion Rodriguez, Andres Calamaro, vicentico, Fito Paez, Pablo milanes, only to name a few)
Now this is real LatAm music!
Quoting Derico (Reply 7): There are many really good groups now too (La Portuaria, Pez, Babasonicos, Indio Solari, Divididos).
Indeed, music from Argentina is great! We have a couple of crazy Argentinos hosting a radio show here, and they're always bringing all sorts of new music from their homeland.
Well... Shakira became famous here since her "Pies Descalzos" CD. True, most of her songs at that time were girly pop, but hey, I was only 12! While I don't like the change of looks she has now, I still enjoy her music.
Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter): The only one singer I like that became really famous outside a spanish speaking country is Juanes. He has become famous with his pop/rock with Latino and Colombian music influence alwayshaving his guitar with him. And most important ,he's become famous singing ONLY IN SPANISH(and says he intends to leave things as they are) !I have great respect for him unlike the others that have had to change their image to become more famous. Juanes has known how to remain himself.
Agree 100%!
Being a pioneer in any field is not by itself a guarantee of continued success - Pan Am, anyone?
Derico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4233 posts, RR: 13 Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2705 times:
Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter): And most important ,he's become famous singing ONLY IN SPANISH(and says he intends to leave things as they are)
Exactly!! This is what I have been saying for years now. I respect so much more those singers that sing in Spanish and don't just go off singing in English to make more money. If you can speak English well, then of course, do so.
But way too many can't even pronounce it right and go to record an english album. I lose some respect for them there.
This is why I love Argentine rock so much. It has never sold out, and those groups that became big did so singing in Spanish. For example, I have no doubts that if a group like Soda Stereo had sung in English, their musical, lyrical, and sense of evolution in their music would have made them a great band in that language.
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RobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4507 posts, RR: 10 Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2702 times:
Quoting Derico (Reply 15): Considering what music FM and video channels make North Americans and Europeans listen to, I'm not surprise people would have no interest whatsoever, and worthless. hehe
Luckily nobody is in a position to force me to listen to anything.
There is a blooming Latin American culture here in this country - not in the least because the wife of the Crown Prince of the Netherlands, Princess Máxima, hails from Argentina. There are salsa, merengue and Latin jazz evenings at different venues here in The Hague several times a week. There are significant numbers of people of Latin American origin living here in The Hague and Rotterdam. And that is excluding the hundreds of thousands of people from Suriname and the Dutch Antilles. If I wish, I can listen to Latin American music twenty-four hours a day on local radio stations. Pulsar is the name of one, I believe.
Rest assured, it is not all pre-packaged squeaky-clean Ricky Martin and Jennifer Lopez here. It is just a genre music I choose not to listen to.
Lamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 23 Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2695 times:
I'm a hopeless romantic so for me Luis Miguel is the best
He's good looking (ask Mariah Carey) and his boleros really put me in the mood...
I used to be a fan of Julio Iglesias who although not from Latin America was the first major singer to be successful with Spanish lyrics. Then I learned to speak Spanish (in Venezuela) and couldn't stand his mainland accent anymore.
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2961 posts, RR: 30 Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2679 times:
Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 19): I'm a hopeless romantic so for me Luis Miguel is the best
Tell your man to be good and to not go around hitting bar tenders. Here's the link
Derico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4233 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2678 times:
Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 18): There is a blooming Latin American culture here in this country - not in the least because the wife of the Crown Prince of the Netherlands, Princess Máxima, hails from Argentina. There are salsa, merengue and Latin jazz evenings at different venues here in The Hague several times a week.
LOL true, but salsa, merengue and Latin Jazz are not the most popular music forms in Argentina, nor are they Argentine in origin.
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LOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2669 times:
Quoting Derico (Reply 7): "...From Europe and the USA I know of Vanilla-Ice, Barry Manilow, Spice Girls, Aqua, Air Supply, Cher, Rick Astley, Fabian, Simple Plan, William Hung, William Shatner, Paula Abdul... and Paula Abdul is cute..."
Whos Fabian? Except maybe 2 people, all of those are Americans, half of them from the early 90s and before..
I hear plenty of homegrown latin music, especially now living in Florida and going to clubs and beachside here.
Latin music to me is like metal, I cant RELATE to it, I dont LIKE it and it sounds ANNOYING to me. Period.
I just said in the same post that I hate it, do you comprehend English?
Quoting Derico (Reply 15): No problem really! Considering what music FM and video channels make North Americans and Europeans listen to, I'm not surprise people would have no interest whatsoever, and worthless. hehe.
I listen to Sirius satellite radio (Area 33) non-stop Trance/Euro commercial free that I can safely say only .1% of America heard of. On the other side when I am in Poland the mainstream radio stations play Kasia Kowalska, Budka Suflera or Mezo i Tabb...that has NOTHING to do with Hollywood or mainstream crap. Face it, Most of you like Latin music because of your roots...thats just how it is.
25 RootsAir: I knowBrazil is part of Latin America...however in Europe when people refer to Latino music its 99.9% referring to music in Spanish
26 RootsAir: Carmen...you have got really really really good musical taste! El rock argentino es el mejor que hay!!!!!! ¨Btw I'm a fan of Irakere
27 Carmenlu15: Let me see... English courses from preschool to senior high, plus an English-Spanish translation degree... yeah, I think I do comprehend English. Act
28 RootsAir: Oh I forgot to mention one...whilst not Latino he however sings in spanish ....Manu Chao.... his concert was one of the most amazing I've seen in my l
29 Senorcarnival: You've conveniently forgotten that Sepultura sang in English. There's no way in hell their fanbase would be what it was in their heyday if they sang
30 LOT767-300ER: Then why are you accusing me of calling that music when I just said I dislike Latin music to begin with mate. No hard feelings though. I will take a
31 Luisde8cd: It is Cafe Tacuba. The band took the name from a Cafe located a few blocks away from Mexico City's famous Zocalo. Hmm yeah right... Saludos desde Car
32 A319XFW: I must say, I recently bought "Gilles Peterson in Brazil" and think it's a really good CD. My favourite off it is probably "Wilson Simongl - Nem vem q
33 Derico: Wow, this is one of the most arrogant, ethno-ignorant things I have ever heard! 'That's just how it is'... 'face it'... You think you know it all huh
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While I don't like the change of looks she has now, I still enjoy her music.
Agree 100%!
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(ask Mariah Carey) and his boleros really put me in the mood... 
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