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9/11: The Falling Man  
User currently offlineSean377 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1225 posts, RR: 40
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 17708 times:

UK's Channel 4 tonight screens Esquire journalist Tom Junod's efforts to identify the man photographed jumping from the WTC on 9/11.

Preview

quote from RadioTimes:

Of the many terrible, abiding images from the destruction of the World Trade Center on 11 September, one proved so shocking that, after limited publication, it all but vanished. It became known as The Falling Man, a stark picture of a man falling, headfirst, after he had jumped from the burning upper reaches of one of the stricken towers. But, thanks to the efforts of a journalist who refused to join in the condemnation, and who saw the picture as almost a monument to humanity, the equivalent of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, it has achieved a strange, iconic status. This brilliant, often unbearably moving, documentary follows Esquire journalist Tom Junod's efforts to identify the man in the photograph. Junod had been touched by the picture when it was first published, and to him its power remained strong, despite America's tacit, collective decision that it had no place among the heroic images that eventually came to represent that black day and its aftermath.

The entire Esquire article can be found here

I dont recall hearing about this back in 2001.

It's on tonight, Thursday 16th at 9pm


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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13193 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 17681 times:

Pictures or film of people jumping from the upper levels of the WTC's on 9/11 have rarely been shown on TV or elsewhere in the USA since 9/11/01 or the next day. In part this is an unofficial agreement by the media in a show of dignity to the victims but part is also to not inflame passions among the public. There was also pressure from the Federal Government to discourage display of such pictures and video for the same reasons, and to preserve their shock value when they will be shown and played to juries sitting in trials of 9/11 or related terrorists (like the Moussiani sentencing trial right now).
Yes, it is good in one way to disclose the name of one of those horrific victims who chose to jump, but only if the family consents to it.


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17654 times:

I remember that scene well and it horrified me back then. Also, was he the only one. Now I can't recall all the details, but I'm pretty sure that several people did that.


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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17638 times:

I remember the documentary film shot by the two French (?) cinematographers which eventually aired on ABC had a scene where it showed that firemen who where taking refuge in one of the buildings could hear an irregular but accelerating thump thump thump on the roof above them. The film's narrator said that the noise was later discovered to be the impact of bodies as people jumped to escape the inferno.

I for one think that we need to be reminded of these images regardless of their ability to inflame. Why is it that only radical elements of Islam are entitled to get upset when inflammatory material is presented? I think that it should shock us to be reminded of the fact that we were attacked and while the images of this attack where being shown around the world certain people were cheering at those images.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 17586 times:

The photograph was prominently featured in the New York Times on September 12, page A7 of the national edition.

Yes, it is one of the most disturbing images of the day, and one of the most important.

Courage, outright horror, and death are what comes to my mind whenever I see it.


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 17556 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 3):
I remember the documentary film shot by the two French (?) cinematographers which eventually aired on ABC had a scene where it showed that firemen who where taking refuge in one of the buildings could hear an irregular but accelerating thump thump thump on the roof above them. The film's narrator said that the noise was later discovered to be the impact of bodies as people jumped to escape the inferno.

Yeah, it was a documentary by 2 French guys - Gedeon and Jules Naudet. Its called '9/11 - The Filmmakers' Commemorative Edition'.

I remember seeing people jumping off the WTC that day..it was all over the news here. It was horrible.



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 17556 times:

Those images haunted me for the next few months after 9/11 and most of that time I was wondering what those poor people felt like. There are two images that will always stay in my memories. People jumping out of WTC and the ones waving with some white cloth and seeking for help.

May all the victims rest in piece  tombstone 



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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 17556 times:

I remember watching that "event" live on TV, I was so shocked, and saddened, while also angry at the same time  Angry

God Bless America Big grin


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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 17519 times:

I agree with you all as well ... the images of the people jumping were, together with the actual towers falling, the most horrific images of that terrible day. May something like that never happen again

regards



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User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 17479 times:

From the french documentary. One of the firefighters, headed for the stairs, asked, "How bad does it have to be before you make the decision to jump?" I've seen several videos and lots of pictures from that event. The one that haunts me is taken with a telephoto lense and shows a bunch of people leaning out the windows of the north tower not too many minutes before it collapsed. Really sad. It is on par with the video from earlier that summer where a Jewish wedding reception was being held on like the fourth floor. People are dancing and having a good time and suddenly the floor lets loose under them with no warning. They just disappear into a black void. Really disturbing.

I have often wondered if they were able to identify that lone jumper. I would think his family would recognize his profile.


User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 17458 times:

I have the Anchorage Daily News Extra edition from 9/11/01 it hangs on my office wall just a crisp reminder. I brought it down and leafed through the 8 pages or so and found the picture in question, I understand there were quite a few who chose to exit the building in the fashion. The fate of those people are beyond horrific.
I work in a youth center and once in awhile a young kid <10 who doesnt have any memory of the event itself wonder why people did that, and thier questions are tough to answer often with the right sensibility. But at the same time it is important for them to understand what happened.


User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17394 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 2):
I remember that scene well and it horrified me back then. Also, was he the only one. Now I can't recall all the details, but I'm pretty sure that several people did that.

In one of the programs I saw they said an estimated 50 people jumped.

There was also a clip of a guy trying to climb up the outside of one of the towers (using a sheet/table cloth) and he lost grip - a horrible image.

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 9):
It is on par with the video from earlier that summer where a Jewish wedding reception was being held on like the fourth floor. People are dancing and having a good time and suddenly the floor lets loose under them with no warning. They just disappear into a black void. Really disturbing.

I watched that on the news, they had the usual 'this clip is disturbing warning' but I was still shocked by it, and I'm usually not easily shocked. It was the 'WTF just happened' factor that got to me.

BF



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17377 times:

no words cannot describe how ill i feel whenever i see any 9/11 image. I will never forget that day. It was 8th grade reading class.... i feel sick right now...


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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17375 times:

There's a video clip online that shows people jumping from an office building fire in Russia, I believe VVO, that can be found easily enough via Google. It's far more explicit than anything from the World Trade Center. Several people, mostly women, are seen jumping from about ten stories up. Whether it's ten stories or 110 stories doesn't make much difference as far as the outcome's concerned. It's close enough of a view that you can see the expressions on the jumpers' faces. And you also can see the landings.


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17362 times:

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 9):
I have often wondered if they were able to identify that lone jumper. I would think his family would recognize his profile.

He's identified in the Esquire article that's linked.



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User currently offlineClrd2go From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17350 times:

So hard to imagine..showing up to work one day, and within an hour (or less?) leaping out the window of a dying building to your death.


May we never forget.


Jim



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User currently offlineJetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2848 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 17328 times:

That day will never leave my mind. I remember the President of our school coming in to the classroom and said "They fell" And he quietly left the room. I didn't exactly know what he was talking about until I got in the car and heard the people on the radio. All of this happened just a few days after my birthday. To this day I still cannot believe this happened even though we are almost coming up on 5 years since this happened.

-Matt  brokenheart 



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 17287 times:

I remember getting a Breaking news e-mail from CNN and at first it didn't sound serious. Plane hit WTC or something like that. At this point, I thought it's some light plane maybe even, having in mind how often news channels make mistakes when aviation is concerned, some helicopter. The alerts kept coming in without giving more information what really happened and they were a bit annoying. Finally, when I've read in one of those alerts that airliner hit the building, I turned TV on and I've seen on BBC live coverage when second plane hit the building. It looked surreal, but when another reporters showed the pictures from the street of horrified people crying, hiding behind walls and first images of people jumping out of the buildings, things became clearer.

In fact, pictures of people jumping or crying out for help (from higher floors) was more devastating that the actual collapse of the buildings. The sensation that they could be reached and helped somehow was devastating.



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User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2597 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 17270 times:

Does anyone remember seeing two people holding hands, jumping from one of the towers? This stuck in my mind, but no one else has mentioned it....

User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2775 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 17194 times:

Yes

Here is a collage someone made of most of the pictures ever taken. Its a horrific but true reminder of the day.  Sad

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/KPDX/jumpers.jpg

Btw, if anyone gets too offended of the picture, Ill gladly take it off.

KPDX  Smile



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 17170 times:

Those pics simply made me speechless  Sad


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User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 17165 times:

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 18):
Does anyone remember seeing two people holding hands, jumping from one of the towers? This stuck in my mind, but no one else has mentioned it....



 Sad


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 17161 times:

Before anyone else posts more photos such as this, we should also have in mind how fellow A.netters from NYC feel about it. There is at least one member here who witnessed 9/11 live while being still a teenager I don't want his feelings (and feelings of many others here) to be hurt, so what do you think if we postpone posting such images until we hear if it is OK for them? It seems like a fair idea.


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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 17105 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 22):
Before anyone else posts more photos such as this, we should also have in mind how fellow A.netters from NYC feel about it. There is at least one member here who witnessed 9/11 live while being still a teenager I don't want his feelings (and feelings of many others here) to be hurt, so what do you think if we postpone posting such images until we hear if it is OK for them? It seems like a fair idea.

Come on now, the title of the thread is certainly descriptive enough to provide sufficient warning to those who don't want to discuss/re-visit what is obviously a traumatic incident.

This notion that people shouldn't post because someone might take offense is absurd. Everyone who comes to this thread comes to it willingly and with sufficent information to decipher what is being discussed.


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 17102 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 23):
This notion that people shouldn't post because someone might take offense is absurd.

No, you misunderstood me. There's no reason why people shouldn't post, I only said that we should consider if posting photos of 9/11 jumpers might hurt somebody's feelings. Personally, I have nothing against it, but I witnessed 9/11 from several thousands of miles distance. Somebody who was in NYC that day can see things differently.



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25 ME AVN FAN : Both German and Swiss TV companies showed an awful lot of people jumping out of the upper third of both towers. I asked myself what to do in such a m
26 MattCLE : It is hard to say what I would do in that situation. If I were to jump I hope I would have a heart attack on the way down.
27 Continental : Why? So you could experience pain right before you die!?
28 MattCLE : Falling gives you time to think about what you just did. I would rather have a heart attack on the way down than have the time to think about what I
29 GDB : Whilst it is of course understandable that some will be offended, relatives of those who were identified of course, denial is unhealthy. When an inqui
30 Jamesbuk : Apparently most people had actually passed out when they jumped because of the sheer shock. I remember being told about 9/11 when i came out of schoo
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