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Here's One For The Brits Among Us...  
User currently offlineMrmeangenes From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 566 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2538 times:

Here's a chap quite disgusted with his country, because they can't seem to do better by him !

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006120261,00.html


(Wonder if he reads The Guardian ?)


gene
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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

The man needs putting down, it's the only humane thing to do. What a tosser!!

Andy  old 



Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

"Shameless" (Channel 4) personified.

User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

If he had a brain he'd be dangerous.  Big grin

User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4532 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2515 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 3):
If he had a brain he'd be dangerous

Oh, but he has, its in his dick  biggrin 

Regards, Robert  bouncy 



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

Ah. Another Sun hatchet job.  Yeah sure

I'll bet they never told him this was the angle of the story when they interviewed him.

People like that are hard to have much sympathy for, but the Sun is not exactly renowned for presenting all sides, is it?



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineMrmeangenes From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2507 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 5):
People like that are hard to have much sympathy for, but the Sun is not exactly renowned for presenting all sides, is it?

Ummm.... Mayhap, you'd like to present his side ?

"He's not titled, but entitled !"



gene
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2507 times:

What a twit!  Yeah sure  Wow!

Maybe he should work for a living, and either dump his missus, or his mistress.

Tosser!



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 6):
Ummm.... Mayhap, you'd like to present his side ?

Not at all. The article as written makes it impossible to have anything but contempt for him. The trouble is that the Sun is superb at presenting an entirely one-sided article precisely to provoke exactly the reaction that we see on this thread.

Whatever the truth of the matter, I certainly wouldn't take the Sun's word for it.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 8):
I certainly wouldn't take the Sun's word for it.

Me neither, but 14 kids is a bit excessive don't you think?


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 9):
Me neither, but 14 kids is a bit excessive don't you think?

I think 4 is excessive, never mind 14  eek 


Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2473 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 8):
Whatever the truth of the matter, I certainly wouldn't take the Sun's word for it.

I have to agree, but even with the Sun's well known bias toward the theatrical, this chap has to be a class one knob! I cannot see any good reason why any council should house this bloke any better than he is already housed.

The mess he finds himself in is entirely his own and therefore he should not expect the British taxpayer to bail him out.

Incidentally, I rarely read the Sun or any other newspaper. I've got to the stage now where my twisted, cynical mind sees only self promoting "celebreties" and crooked politicians featuring therein. Stories like this, for wahtever reason they are published, are typical of the tripe that is "news" these days.

Whinge, whinge, whine, moan!  grumpy 

Incidentally, did you notice the age of his two doxy's? He's nearly 50 and they are in their 20's - dirty old sod!! Or should that be lucky old sod? Big grin

Andy  old 



Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2468 times:

Why does he deserive more money, he already gets, god knows how much.

Tom.



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User currently offlineDoor5Right From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 707 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

The family get £2,000 a month in benefits - thats $3,493 US per month! Paid for by the decent taxpayers, of course!


My soul is in the sky...
User currently offlineABfemme From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

Christ makes me ashamed to be British !!



Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 7):
Maybe he should work for a living,



Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 1):
What a tosser!!

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User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

Banco's right in what he says about the way The Sun has presented this 'story'.

So let's take it a bit further... he has worked in the past, and let's take it he has paid his taxes. There's no reason to believe he hasn't.

Now he doesn't work (we don't know whether it's a case of... he can't work / he would like to, but hasn't been successful in his job search / he doesn't want to work...), why shouldn't he receive benefits from the state? After all he's paid his taxes.
There appears to be a work ethic in the house - his wife works, and he has work history.

So if there is a problem, it's the system, not the person.

One last point... I wonder how much The Sun paid him for that bit of knocking copy they wrote on him?



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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 15):
So let's take it a bit further... he has worked in the past, and let's take it he has paid his taxes. There's no reason to believe he hasn't

He may have paid in taxes, but is he withdrawing more than he paid in? Is he entitled to withdraw more than he paid in? If so, then it stands to reason that every other citizen can draw as much as they can manage in benefits. So, work for a week, and be set for life. Maybe I will immigrate.



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User currently offlineMrmeangenes From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

Actually, I posted this to "tease" our Overseas Cousins a bit; as I have noted some of them are kind enough to instruct us on proper government, etc.

Did anyone happen to notice the caravan parked in this gentleman's driveway?
(We call them campers or RVs on this side of the pond.)

If he bought it used, it should have set him back a good $15,000 US; if new, at least $ 60,000 US. (We just sold our 6 year old, slightly "roughed up" camper for $11,500 a few months ago .)

I would guess this man is "gaming the system" a bit.  Smile  Smile



gene
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 9):
Me neither, but 14 kids is a bit excessive don't you think?

What would suggest? Enforced sterilisation? In a free society, people are able to do this.

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 11):
cannot see any good reason why any council should house this bloke any better than he is already housed.

No, but it isn't about him. It's about the children. If you have a society where the state wishes to ensure that children don't grow up in abject poverty, you are always going to have circumstances where people can take the piss. It isn't easy to manage this. What would people prefer? Occasional items like this, or lots of children living in slums?

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 15):
Now he doesn't work (we don't know whether it's a case of... he can't work / he would like to, but hasn't been successful in his job search / he doesn't want to work...),

And here is a fundamental flaw in the system. Once people are reliant on benefits, it's extremely difficult to get out of it, because they can never earn enough to end up better off working. This has improved over the last few years, for certain, but it isn't perfect.

It's quite possible that this man is nothing but a scrounger. But it's equally possible that he isn't.

Incidentally, I've been out of work in the past, and reliant on the dole for a time. Any belief that the state just gives out money left, right and centre is so far from the truth as to be ludicrous. Getting a penny out of them was very, very hard - and I really have paid in a bloody fortune in taxes.

Quoting Lowrider (Reply 16):
He may have paid in taxes, but is he withdrawing more than he paid in? Is he entitled to withdraw more than he paid in?

Since when has it been calculated on such a basis? All taxes are spent unequally. Those of us that live in England subsidise the rest of the UK. Should we rail against the others for taking out more than they put it?

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 17):
as I have noted some of them are kind enough to instruct us on proper government, etc.

The difference is that we discuss the issue at hand, rather than going on a rant about how you're anti-British, and how dare you even mention what goes on here.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2370 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 18):
Incidentally, I've been out of work in the past, and reliant on the dole for a time. Any belief that the state just gives out money left, right and centre is so far from the truth as to be ludicrous. Getting a penny out of them was very, very hard - and I really have paid in a bloody fortune in taxes.

I have to agree with that part of your statement Banco. I have been out of work for 8 months during the last 36 years and, because I get a pension from the MOD I am unable to claim unemployment benefit, get reduced sickness benefit and no housing benefit (should I need it).

I pay, like many others, a small fortune in National Insurance and it grips my shit that I am unable to benefit from this. However, as you say, it isn't that easy to get the benefits that are being talked of here. Either this guy is a damn good liar or he has a genuine need, in which case he is entitled to what he gets.

But the fact remains that he continues to procreate while in his current situation, which means he gets more in benefits and has even less incentive to return to work. This is the fact I find slightly unpalateable. If he is so desparate, why the hell is he continuing to add to his family?

Andy  old 



Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2276 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 18):
Since when has it been calculated on such a basis? All taxes are spent unequally. Those of us that live in England subsidise the rest of the UK. Should we rail against the others for taking out more than they put it?

I am suggesting that maybe there should be a limit to what he can withdraw and the flaw in the thinking that, since he did pay some taxes, he was entitled to as much as he wanted. The article made it seem as if he felt entitled to a bigger house. Shouldn't housing needs and financial situation figure into family planning?



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User currently offlineLurch From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

Maybe they could re-populate parts of Africa after the fammin ore is this geezer expecting a Fammin in the UK?

14 Kids talk about being a busy boy, His house must be like a ZOO!  crowded 


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User currently offlineByronsterk From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

I'dd tell him to stop f*cking everything on two legs...


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User currently offlineMrmeangenes From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

Here's a thought: HM Government could recoup some of its cost by putting the rascal out to stud.

Yes, I can see he's ewe-g-ly (3 barf bags worse than ugly) , but, if he's charming the knickers of 3 women now-warts and all-he must have something going for him that drives the ladies ga-ga.

These days (I hope you are taking notes here !) large numbers of wymyn are opting for "single parenthood" and/or "alternative parenthood" (as in "Sally has two Moms"), and the services of a reliable sperm donor might be in considerable demand: a national resource, if you will.



gene
User currently offlineA319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 7):
Maybe he should work for a living, and either dump his missus, or his mistress.

Perhaps he could become a man-whore...  tongue 


25 Post contains images RobertNL070 : Did you get a good look at his face? Regards, Robert
26 Post contains images A319XFW : What are paper bags for But I guess with 14 kids he might be just a quick guy and not one to please the ladieeeees... But a few have had more than on
27 BigOrange : The women in his life aren't exactly lookers either! When will the British Government crack down on scroungers (my sister included)??
28 ME AVN FAN : what does he need a brain for ? he has his force elsewhere THAT sounds as if his "lifestyle" is a profitable venture ! and the U.K. apparently is an
29 Wrighbrothers : This guy complains about how small his house is, well, perhaps he should try and get a job, wether it be road sweeping or being in the army or whateve
30 ME AVN FAN : I suppose he fears his previous "lovers" !
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