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Scotland Smoking Ban: 1 Week To Go!  
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24914 posts, RR: 56
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

It's getting closer and closer to the day when the public smoking ban comes into force here in Scotland, and I for one cannot wair!  bigthumbsup 
Finally we non smokers are getting a chance to go to the pub without being victims of passive smoking.
So whats everyones thoughs on this ban?


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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Good news I guess!


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8544 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1822 times:
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it will be great - New Zealand brought this in over a year ago , not long after Ireland , I went home a couple of weeks ago and it was so nice to be able to go the the pub without needing to have a shower when I got home - wish they would do it here in Belgium


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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

I'm in support too. I don't mind being around a smoker in a quiet pub or whatever, but I can't stand it when the pub is full of smoke and your clothes come out smelling of smoke when you leave.


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User currently offlineMatt27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1802 times:

We've had a smoking ban in bars, restaurants etc. in Sweden since June last year, and I think it's great. Finally you can wear the same clothes again without washing them  Smile And even if I like a cigarette when I am out drinking I still think this ban is a good thing.

// Matt


User currently onlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Prepare to take up smoking laddie! That's were all the fun happens here now, outside pubs with all the skinny girls smirting (smoking and flirting) with the guys.

I've known non-smoking guys to borrow a fag just to chat up a girl.


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

If it took away something that affected the freedom of you non-smokers you wouldn't be so happy!  Angry

No-one's forcing you to go into a smoking bar!


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 5):
I've known non-smoking guys to borrow a fag just to chat up a girl.

Yes its a well known fact that girls find it easier to chat to gay blokes than straight ones  Wink



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User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4532 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1791 times:

Me too. I can't wait until the Dutch government has enough cojones to ban smoking in bars and restaurants in this country. We haven't even non-smoking areas in restaurants!

Regards, Robert  bouncy 



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24914 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 6):
If it took away something that affected the freedom of you non-smokers you wouldn't be so happy! Angry

No-one's forcing you to go into a smoking bar!

The fact is, the majority of bars are smoke filled.
Oh, and if I get cancer caused from passive smoking, you'll be the first person I'll sue  Wink



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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5127 posts, RR: 34
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 5):
Prepare to take up smoking laddie! That's were all the fun happens here now, outside pubs with all the skinny girls smirting (smoking and flirting) with the guys.

I would never date a smoker, so you wont catch me doing that. Disgusting habbit. Cant wait till its banned...



That'll teach you
User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

I am all in favor of it. Your rights end where those of another begin, and I do not want to have to go into a pub and breathe toxic, reeking air. One is free to foul up the air when somewhere where there are no non-smokers around. A pub is a public place, not the private property of those customers that smoke.

User currently offlineVC10 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1762 times:

Having given up smoking now for 3 years I can sympathize with people who say they have to change their clothes due to the smell of smoke after visiting a pub, however the same applies to me now as my clothes usually smell of cooking after a visit to a pub. This I believe shows the problem was not only with the smokers but also with the publicans who should improve their venilation systems.
I just feel it is intolerant to have a complete ban, and there should be smoking and non smoking areas as there was when smoking was a pastime of the majority, unlike today .

little vc10


User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 8):
Me too. I can't wait until the Dutch government has enough cojones to ban smoking in bars and restaurants in this country. We haven't even non-smoking areas in restaurants!

That sucks... as a smoker I think the Scottish ban is going too far completley banning smoking in bars, etc, and I think laws like the ones here in Qatar are the best way to go:

-No smoking in closed public places (e.g. Malls, etc)
-You can only smoke in designated areas in resturants, etc.

The bad part of Qatar's smoking laws:
10,000QR ($2740) fine for throwning cigarettes out of your car's window! This is to stop literring due to cigarettes being thrown from windows and to control litter properly. I personally think its an insane amount to fine someone, the law is close to Singapore's equally insane one!


User currently onlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1736 times:

Quoting VC10 (Reply 12):
I just feel it is intolerant to have a complete ban, and there should be smoking and non smoking areas as there was when smoking was a pastime of the majority, unlike today .

Even though I've never smoked I thought the smoking ban here was going a bit far, but seeing how well it's worked I feel now it was absolutely the right decision.

Smokers complained at first and it took them time to get used to it, but that's all died down now and it's amazing how it's been completely accepted.

I was in Italy recently and out of curiosity went into a couple of the smoking rooms which are now provided in bars and clubs. These are an unbelieveable health hazard: the smoke was thick and it was almost impossible to breathe in them.

If I'm abroad now and see someone lighting up beside me I instinctively think "They shouldn't be doing that!". Just think back to the time when people could smoke on planes and in cinemas: once it settles-in in Scotland, smoking in pubs and clubs will seem just as odd.

It was one the best things this government has ever done:

98% in support of smoking ban: poll

28 March 2005

On the eve of the first anniversary of the introduction of the smoking ban in public places, the Office of Tobacco Control has released findings of a poll showing overwhelming approval.

98% of those polled said they thought workplaces were healthier and that support came from smokers as well as non-smokers.

The poll, conducted by independent research company, TNS MRBI, also showed that 96% thought the law was successful, including 89% who are smokers.


Source: http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/0328/tobacco.html


User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 6):
If it took away something that affected the freedom of you non-smokers you wouldn't be so happy! Angry

No-one's forcing you to go into a smoking bar!

My right to breath clean air outweighs your right to pollute my air, your free to smoke at home. And what are smoking bars? Last time I checked bars and pubs are for drinking



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13040 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1712 times:

New York City put in it's total indoor smoking ban 2 years ago, only excluding private housing units and I think hotel rooms. My home state of New Jersey will have it's own similar ban as of April 15th, but also excluding the gaming areas of casinos in Atlantic City (causing some arguements from many bar owners).
These bans are more about protecting others, including staff, from secondhand smoke rather than chasing out smokers. Many people have ashtma or other respitory problems that are aggrivated by others smoking. There are also fire safety issues as well as cleaner facilities. This is much of the reasoning used for banning smoking on aircraft by most countries over the last 15 years.


User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1707 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 6):
If it took away something that affected the freedom of you non-smokers you wouldn't be so happy!

Do you mean something like guns maybe?


User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 10):
Cant wait till its banned...

Me neither. I will be a regular visitor to my wee local now that I can breathe and get pished at the same time


User currently offline777 From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 514 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
So whats everyones thoughs on this ban?

As you probably know, here in Italy we introduced this ban more than a year ago and even though we had some negative reactions from the smokers in the first days, I would say that today this rule has been widely accepted.

Now, when I enter in a restaurant abroad and I smell smoke I’m every time shocked as first reaction… vomit  vomit  vomit 

....so if it works in Italy it should work in any other country…!!! bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3011 posts, RR: 47
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1664 times:
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In the area of Switzerland where I live, Ticino, we had to vote last week-end about a law to ban smoke in restaurants, bars and discos. It's actually not a total ban: restaurants with separate rooms equipped with the appropriate ventilation system may create rooms for smokers.

The law passed with about 80% of people voting for it.

My boss is one of those people who smokes 2+ packs of cigarettes per day, and he's never been so angry. He's threatening the world that he will never go to restaurants again (yeah right) and that he will purchase his cigarettes abroad in order not to give the Swiss country the taxes he pays by buying them here. Furthermore he says that they should also ban bad body smell in restaurants. Absolutely out of his mind  Wink

I think it's a good idea to ban smoke like many countries are doing. The smell is disgusting and of course it's unhealthy.

-Manuel



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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1650 times:
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Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
Many people have ashtma or other respitory problems that are aggrivated by others smoking. There are also fire safety issues as well as cleaner facilities.

Tell me about it. A mild cold in sunny London, turned into broncho-pneumonia after an hour or two in a London pub. Rushing home through LHR, with smoke galore, was not a nice farewell to the UK. I have never been so happy to get on a plane in order to get home.

In South Africa we have strict anti-tobacco laws, to the extent that tobacco companies are not even allowed to sponsor events, etc. Tobacco advertising is also banned. However, we do have designated enclosed smoking areas in most restaurants and public places.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1589 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 1):
Good news I guess!

You quit smoking or something?

Quoting Cornish (Reply 7):
Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 5):
I've known non-smoking guys to borrow a fag just to chat up a girl.

Yes its a well known fact that girls find it easier to chat to gay blokes than straight ones

 rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl 

Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 17):
Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 6):
If it took away something that affected the freedom of you non-smokers you wouldn't be so happy!

Do you mean something like guns maybe?

No, Europeans are sensible



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24914 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1546 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
You quit smoking or something?

On Thursday he said he'd only had 2 fags all week, then proceeded to smoke 10 that day  Silly



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User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

Quoting QR332 (Reply 13):
he bad part of Qatar's smoking laws:
10,000QR ($2740) fine for throwning cigarettes out of your car's window! This is to stop literring due to cigarettes being thrown from windows and to control litter properly. I personally think its an insane amount to fine someone, the law is close to Singapore's equally insane one!

This I totally agree with, except I'd make it 100,000QR. Several huge forest fires have been down to idiots throwing lit butts out of the car window. Throwing litter is just ignorant, and that includes the 2 hillybilly local cops I watched the other day thowing the wrapping of a new pack out of one window, and the empty packet out of the other window of their patrol car.

As a non smoker, I always thought that there should be some middle ground on this, but the last meal I had at a restaurant (most restaurants here don't even have non smoking sections) we were still eating when the next table all lit up and we got a nice cloud of smoke to go with dinner. It's people like that who make me think "well screw you then, you deserve to get smoking banned."



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25 ME AVN FAN : it is a tremendous and positive thing fairly often, there are NO alternatives, none at all ! all bars around filled with smoke ! THAT is the reality
26 QR332 : There really isnt much danger of forest fires starting in a desert... Haha... I don't know about you but not many people carry shishas around with th
27 Cosec59 : I would like to know why I can't enjoy a cigarette and a glass of cola in a pub, without being surrounded by loud mouthed p**s heads
28 QR332 : Well, it is a bar, and surprisingly people go there to... drink!
29 Post contains images Cosec59 : And enjoy a cigarette
30 ME AVN FAN : well, in many places, the "smoking section" is the one with the tables and seats along the windows with the splendid view onto the lake or the sea/oc
31 Cosec59 : And what has happened to tolerance? I strongly believe there should be separate areas for smokers and non-smokers
32 ME AVN FAN : - "tolerance" in reality has lead either to non-smoker-zones being the least desirable parts of public places or else to owners declaring to be unabl
33 ZRH : Congrats to Scotland and the Swiss Canton of Ticino. I hope that this will be inroduced in entire Switzerland soon. When a smoker says that other odou
34 QR332 : In most of the resturants i've been to, the smoking section is the one at the back while the non-smoking sections are the ones near the windows. It s
35 ME AVN FAN : it is the same, just different circumstances. In aereas like the Arabian Gulf States, the tables along the windows can get rather hot so that those i
36 Post contains images Gkirk : Smoking is now officially banned! Woohoo!
37 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : A) envy ! B) congratulations ! but please do NOT drink until being drunk ! -
38 Kaddyuk : I dont mind smokers, they keep my Tax Payments down... Would anyone like a cigarette...?
39 ME AVN FAN : but put up the health-care costs and thereby keep your Tax Payments UP
40 EWS : Smoking bans are a good thing in my eyes.. so i agree with the ban. Lew
41 Post contains images Gkirk : Just got in from work, the pub is actually busier than it usually is Nice, clean air, think I shall go out later tonight for a few beer and play bingo
42 Post contains images ZRH : Why not?  [Edited 2006-03-26 17:43:31][Edited 2006-03-26 17:44:30]
43 Post contains images Sabena332 : Bingo is a game for gits. Patrick
44 Post contains images Aleksandar : I agree. It's much better sitting outside and smoking. Wanna join me
45 Post contains images Sabena332 : Of course! Patrick
46 ME AVN FAN : because I fear he may drink as much to become drunk, and then sits at a computer .................. and gets banned ! He is busily starting to become
47 Scotty : Just back from my local and for the first time EVER I DO NOT smell like an ash tray!! And the pub is just as busy it seems, with nobody moaning about
48 Post contains images 777 : Welcome in the european "public locals smoke free" club, then!!!
49 Braybuddy : Em. . . sorry to disappoint you Kirke, but now that the smoke is gone you'll notice the smell of dirty carpets and farts. . .
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