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Gerry Adams Detained  
User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8463 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2098 times:
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Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams was detained at a Washington DC airport after celebrating St Patrick's Day with George W. Bush. Apparently his name was on a terror watch list and he was subject to a "thorough screening" that caused him to miss his flight.


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2084 times:

Yes, well, there is that whole NORAID thing.


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User currently offlineEFCar98 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2084 times:

hahaha its true not all terrorists are middle eastern in origin

User currently offlineSuperhub From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

Not surprised at all. Gerry Adams has links the IRA and the Provisional IRA. The latter is still considered as a terrorist organisation by the Ireland, the UK and the US.

User currently offlineEFCar98 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

Quoting Superhub (Reply 3):
Gerry Adams has links the IRA and the Provisional IRA

I'm no expert but I think he's got more than just links to those groups.


User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

has ian paisley made a trip to the usa??????he is more of a terrorist than gerry....


bus driver.......move that bus:)
User currently offlineStudentFlyer From Australia, joined Sep 2004, 688 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Quoting Andz (Thread starter):
Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams was detained at a Washington DC airport after celebrating St Patrick's Day with George W. Bush.

What an irony... celebrated St Pat's day with W. and not detained there at the celebration?


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8463 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1976 times:
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How did he get into the US if he is on a terror watch list?


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 7):
How did he get into the US if he is on a terror watch list?

That's the beauty of a complicated beaurocracy. Plan a 3 day trip, that way when you arrive in the U.S. it takes that long for them to figure out that you're you and you did a no-no. You leave after they start looking for you.

Oh yeah and hopefully you don't happen to be a 3 year old with the name Gerald Addams otherwise you're screwed.


User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1811 times:

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 5):
has ian paisley made a trip to the usa??????he is more of a terrorist than gerry....

Tell you what.....live through a terrorist war and wanton murder campaign for 30 years, then come and talk to me about your 'expert knowledge'.


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams was detained at a Washington DC airport after celebrating St Patrick's Day with George W. Bush. Apparently his name was on a terror watch list and he was subject to a "thorough screening" that caused him to miss his flight

Does this mean that you get to shake hands with GWB even if you are on a terrorist watch list. Something seems to have gone astray with the TSA or with White House Security.


User currently offlineBlackandWhite From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

Well said AirNZ.. and the following on the mainland
Aldershot
Guildford
Birmingham
Brighton
Warrington
Bishopsgate
Canary Wharf
Manchester


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1581 times:

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 10):
Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams was detained at a Washington DC airport after celebrating St Patrick's Day with George W. Bush. Apparently his name was on a terror watch list and he was subject to a "thorough screening" that caused him to miss his flight

Does this mean that you get to shake hands with GWB even if you are on a terrorist watch list. Something seems to have gone astray with the TSA or with White House Security.

Don't forget that that "arch-fiend" Senator Teddy Kennedy was also on the TSA terrorist watch list. Yes, it seems strange that Gerry was stopped AFTER he visited with Dubya.

As for Dubya, he should remember that there are 40 million Irish in America, and we vote. ERIN GO BRAGH!


User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 9):
Tell you what.....live through a terrorist war and wanton murder campaign for 30 years, then come and talk to me about your 'expert knowledge'.

simmer down there AIRNZ,
my only question was has ian paisley made the trip to the usa.....the terrorist thing is a personal opinion...NOT a expert analysis.....



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User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

And Warrington.

I dont want to be provacative, but this forum is a little political.

I saw Manchester when it happened in my own eyes, later I visited Northern Ireland and travelled the South, first I thought All Irish should be wiped out. Later I thought the problems in Belfast were nothing compared to the problems Ive seen in Salford, Manchester.. just publicised differently.
Finally having seen the South my conclusion Is the IRA are the ones who are out there.. everyone else are just living their lives and I think the irish are great people.

After 5 years in the US I found it is third or fourth generation descendants who shout the loudest but dont even know where Ireland is on the map.



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User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

Is it still true that US Military flights from Germany to the US which overfly Northern Ireland qualify for a medal for flying over a combat zone ?


So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
User currently offlineGustyOrange From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

uadc8,

Why don't you check the facts out before posting rubbish about a country you have probably never visited ?

g


User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1639 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 5):
has ian paisley made a trip to the usa??????he is more of a terrorist than gerry....

Uadc8contrail

There's no doubt of Gerry Adams' links to terrorist organisations like the IRA, but what evidence do you have of Ian Paisley's links to terrorist organisations?

Just back up your "personal opinion" with some facts.



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User currently offlineBDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1214 times:

Don't you just love the US. They've detained a guy with "terrorist links" as he attempts to leave the country!

Now where's the sense in that?; surely he should have been detained as he entered the country!

Makes you want to laugh at the incompetence!

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User currently offlineEi 168 From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1196 times:

Would you give the guy a break. Ian Paisley might not be linked to terrorist organisations but he's the reason for the mess in the north not Gerry Adams. I'm not going to go all political. Just read whats going on in the north at the moment. Finally I think this topic should be in non-av.

User currently offlineNed Kelly From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1170 times:

Apart from the mention of "Washington DC airport" in the original post, I don't see what any of the replies have to do with civil aviation.

I have contacted the forum moderators and suggested deletion of this entire topic.

Flame me if you wish.

Ned.


User currently offlineByronsterk From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1091 times:

They've gone crazy... Sinn Fein?? come on...


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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 784 times:

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 18):
Don't you just love the US. They've detained a guy with "terrorist links" as he attempts to leave the country!

Actually, he was boarding a domestic flight from DCA to BUF.

Since nobody bothered to put a link to any sort of an article:

Gerry Adams delayed in D.C. airport

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 17):
There's no doubt of Gerry Adams' links to terrorist organisations like the IRA, but what evidence do you have of Ian Paisley's links to terrorist organisations?

In 1966 he helped to set up the Ulster Constitution Defence Committee (UCDC) and the paramilitary Ulster Protestant Volunteers (UPV). The UPV commenced a bombing campaign in order to destabilise O'Neill's government. This group later amalgamated with the Ulster Volunteer Force, with whom it had an overlapping membership.

A Loyalist paramilitary-style organisation was formed on 10 November 1986 by Ian Paisley, then leader of the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP), Peter Robinson of the DUP, and Ivan Foster. The initial aim of Ulster Resistance was to bring an end to the Anglo-Irish Agreement. Following a rally in the Ulster Hall in Belfast, other rallies were held in towns across Northern Ireland. The group was organised in nine 'battalions' and members wore a red beret. In November 1988 there was an arms find in County Armagh and the subsequent arrest of a former DUP election candidate brought accusations of links between DUP politicians and armed paramilitary groups. The DUP claimed that party links with the organisation had ended in 1987. Two members of Ulster Resistance were arrested in April 1987 in Paris along with a South African diplomat. The weapons imported from South Africa were divided between the UDA, the UVF and Ulster Resistance. The arms consisted of 200 AK47 assault rifles, 90 Browning pistols, 500 fragmentation grenades, 30,000 rounds of ammunition and 12 RPG 7 rocket launchers.


User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 784 times:

Does that mean that Bush is guilty of harbouring terrorists? If so, I think the White House can expect a visit from some B52's. Isn't that what they do to everyone who harbours terrorists?

User currently offlineBDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 780 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 22):
Actually, he was boarding a domestic flight from DCA to BUF.

Fair enough, and thanks for the correction, however he'd already been allowed entry to the US so my point remains valid.



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25 Post contains images Scbriml : Not forgetting the fact that the IRA was largely funded by generous Americans supporting the valliant Irish freedom fighters. War on terror(tm)?
26 Post contains images BigOrange : This just sums up the double standards of the Bush administration. 1) He should never have been issued with a visa. 2) If issuing a visa was an oversi
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