Bushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1 Posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2883 times:
Hi folks, the 30.06 is a century old and still going strong as ever despite a huge influx in new rounds developed for more specialized purposes. A round developed for the military, and adopted by hunters to become the best selling centerfire round in the US and possibly the world to civilians.
I own a 30.06 myself, among other rifles. Mine is a german mauser 98 of WWI surplus that was rebored for the 30.06, a family heirloom that I treasure.
StuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2865 times:
I can't believe you started this thread. Well, I'll stick to the topic for now and play nice, but I'll check back in later to tell you how the 45-70 is King!
I really like do like my 30-06, but if I shoot FMJ's in it, it punches holes right through the 3/8" metallic silhouettes at 100 yards or less. I can only use soft points or shoot at the metallic rams at 200 yards. It's very flat shooting and ammo is cheap. Reloading makes the ammo cost even cheaper and there's a really wide selection of bullets and powder for it and TONS of reloading data!
The ammo I load for mine pushes the 125 grain bullet out of a 14" barrel at 2,700 feet-per-second.
Here's a picture I took of my 30-06 HANDGUN when I saw that Bushpilot had posted this thread! It's a Magnum Research "Lone Eagle" featuring a 14" barrel with a muzzle brake and a "cannon-breech" type loading system. Recoil is about like shooting a .22 Long Rifle pistol, but with the muzzle brake it feels just like you are being punched in the nose when you shoot it! You have to close your mouth because it really does rattle your teeth!
Then what about 7.62x54R, 7.62x25 and .303 British Mk VII?
The first two are Russian ( the first Mosin-Nagant, respectively DP machine gun and SVT 40 semiautomatic rifle, the second is the round used in the PPsH and PPS submachine guns), the third is British (Lee-Enfield rifles, Bren, Vickers-Berthier and Vickers machine guns) and since all the Commonwealth units, most exile armies and resistance organisations in Europe, plus in the Far East (there with some exceptions) were equiped with British weapons I think those rounds were in even bigger use. I also have to mention the 9 mm Para, which was used in the British Sten submachine guns and the German 7.92 round, which was used in the Czech designed, but used by the British Besa tank machine gun.
Those were all effective rounds and well used respectively. Among American circles it is considered that. There are plenty others that could be argued as well such as the .50bmg or the 45acp etc.
30.06 was used in the garand, BAR, lewis gun, 1919browning, etc. The garand was the best standard issue infantry rifle, the BAR the best LMG of WWII but they were both used well past the Korean war.
It is the most common centerfire hunting round in the world. I have shot 30.06 in 3 different countries. Its the granddaddy of all the current cartidges.
StuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2833 times:
Quoting B757300 (Reply 3): I have two 30.06 rifles. A M-1 Garand and a M-1903A4 Springfield.
I want to get an '03A3 Springfield. My grandfather told me that when he went to Guadalcanal to fight in WWII, he threw away the Thompson sub-gun they issued to him and picked up an '03A3 Springfield that was just lying somewhere and used it through the rest of the time he served! So I'd just like to have one to keep for that purpose.
B757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2815 times:
Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 6): I want to get an '03A3 Springfield. My grandfather told me that when he went to Guadalcanal to fight in WWII, he threw away the Thompson sub-gun they issued to him and picked up an '03A3 Springfield that was just lying somewhere and used it through the rest of the time he served! So I'd just like to have one to keep for that purpose.
I'd love to have a Thompson as well but just like the B.A.R. a WWII era one is very expensive and requires certain permits.
I wanted mine for the historical value as well. It was actually a college graduation present from my dad.
You can purchase Springfields from this organization which is where both my 03 and M-1 came from.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 30408 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2810 times:
Well somebody took advantage of the fact that I have a day job and went ahead a put up a tribute thread to the 100th birthday of the 30-06 cartridge.
Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 6): have a Mk V Jungle Carbine in .303 British. Good cartridge in an OUTSTANDING rifle! That thing is rugged as hell!
I have a 1917 vintage SMLE, agreed. Haven't found a decent jungle carbine in this town to aquire though....figure it would do well on deer.
Quoting B757300 (Reply 3): A M-1 Garand and a M-1903A4 Springfield. One day I'm going to mount an authentic WWII era scope on the Springfield
Got the Garand, and got a partially sporterized 1903A3. Mounted my grandmothers 2.5 power Lyman Alaska scope on it-which was used as a sniper scope in the war. Since it still has the military stock on it it looks pretty good.
Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 1): Well, I'll stick to the topic for now and play nice, but I'll check back in later to tell you how the 45-70 is King!
Excellent cartidge but to get the full potential out of it you have to handload. The factory ammo is downloaded so that it won't bursts the receivers on the old remington rolling blocks and other old cartridges. This was the reason that Marlin came out with the .450 so that you could have proper 45-70 performance but not the liability of a hot shell blowing up somebody's gun.
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