NWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1404 posts, RR: 3 Posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2141 times:
If I'm ever in Texas and want an alcoholic drink, I'll have it in a motel room. I have no desire to go to jail - anywhere. If this is how it is in Texas, maybe the state ought to ban alcohol altogether.
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 9285 posts, RR: 38
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2130 times:
Quote: "We feel that the only way we're going to get at the drunk driving problem and the problem of people hurting each other while drunk is by crackdowns like this," [said Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission's Carolyn Beck].
"There are a lot of dangerous and stupid things people do when they're intoxicated, other than get behind the wheel of a car," Beck said. "People walk out into traffic and get run over, people jump off of balconies trying to reach a swimming pool and miss."
A) Maybe we might want to crack down on stupid lawmakers and holders of public offices for a change. Just imagine the world of good that could do to the world.
B) As for trying to jump in a swimming pool and missing: ever heard of the Darwin Award, Ms. Beck?
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LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13765 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2047 times:
I would like to see how far the cops get in looking for drunks in some big Texas roadhouses and bars...they will get chased out of there like a bunch of anti-gun Liberals.
Most states do have laws that you are not to serve anyone who 'appears to be intoxicated'. Now if the cops want to bust drunks outside of a bar as they take out the car keys and about to get into their cars, or having guns on them while drunk, that might be a different matter. If they did that in some bars where I live (in New Jersey) there wouldn't be enough jail space in the towns to hold them until the judge arraingns them.
Pope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1976 times:
I wonder how they prove the drunkeness. It's not like operating a car where your license implies consent to a sobriety test. If the person just refuses to take any sort of sobriety test, I doubt that their refusal could be introduced against them at trial because of 5th amendment issues.
Texan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4319 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1930 times:
Quoting Pope (Reply 10): I wonder how they prove the drunkeness. It's not like operating a car where your license implies consent to a sobriety test. If the person just refuses to take any sort of sobriety test, I doubt that their refusal could be introduced against them at trial because of 5th amendment issues.
They are calling it public intoxication, so the officers either observe them drinking or ask them to take a breathalizer. Refusal to do so is counted as being drunk.
It will be challenged and should not hold up on appeal.
And if there is an a.net meet in Dallas, don't worry...I'm friends with a bunch of cops here that will help us out in case we're arrested So should we have a Texas a.net meet in August?
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Melpax From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 1776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1858 times:
Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 13): In some countries, consumption of the formerly banned intoxicant, absinthe, is once again allowed. And yet, as far as I know, nowhere in this country will absinthe be legally consumed in public.
I was at my local liquor store on the weekend looking for a birthday present for a mate, and sure enough there was absinthe available! Bloody expensive though, at AUD$60 a bottle!
Ryangooner From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 969 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1844 times:
Its just as illegal to be drunk in any bar in England, Its also against the law to sell alcohol to someone drunk.
However in reality you are never gonna find a cop enter a bar in plain clothes and arrest drunk people! for a start there would be no police left quite rapidly, as they too would be getting nicked left right and centre!!!
A bit of common sense does prevail in England.
On a side note of how to prove drunkeness: A police officer in England is deemed an expert and can give evidence that a person was drunk (whether or not they actually were!), different to drink driving - A person does not need to be drunk to be over the limit.