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User currently offlineNWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1404 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1545 times:
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If I'm ever in Texas and want an alcoholic drink, I'll have it in a motel room.    I have no desire to go to jail - anywhere. If this is how it is in Texas, maybe the state ought to ban alcohol altogether.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/23/texas.bars.reut/index.html

If there's ever an a.net meeting in TX, it'll have to be "dry".

Good Day  

Russell

[Edited 2006-03-23 17:46:00]


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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8735 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1534 times:

Quote:
"We feel that the only way we're going to get at the drunk driving problem and the problem of people hurting each other while drunk is by crackdowns like this," [said Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission's Carolyn Beck].

"There are a lot of dangerous and stupid things people do when they're intoxicated, other than get behind the wheel of a car," Beck said. "People walk out into traffic and get run over, people jump off of balconies trying to reach a swimming pool and miss."

A) Maybe we might want to crack down on stupid lawmakers and holders of public offices for a change. Just imagine the world of good that could do to the world.

B) As for trying to jump in a swimming pool and missing: ever heard of the Darwin Award, Ms. Beck?



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User currently offlineNWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1404 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1533 times:
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I guess I could see things from a public safety viewpoint but this seems extreme.

Russell



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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

Quoting NWOrientDC10 (Thread starter):
If this is how it is in Texas, maybe the state ought to ban alcohol altogether

This isn't how it normally is in Texas.

There are quite a few people raising quite a stink because they think the governmen has overstepped it's bounds on this.

I happen to agree with them.


User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3705 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1501 times:
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I'd like to know what the criteria is to be arrested. I am perfectly capable of being shitfaced and calm at the same time. Are they just going for the loud obnoxious ones or what?


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User currently offlineKBOS From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1497 times:

Next the police will be going to the Porsche dealerships to write speeding tickets. Might as well get them when they buy the car. It will save us on gas plus wear and tear on the police vehicles


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User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1464 times:

So what's the point in bars in Texas?
Dominic



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13170 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

I would like to see how far the cops get in looking for drunks in some big Texas roadhouses and bars...they will get chased out of there like a bunch of anti-gun Liberals.  biggrin 
Most states do have laws that you are not to serve anyone who 'appears to be intoxicated'. Now if the cops want to bust drunks outside of a bar as they take out the car keys and about to get into their cars, or having guns on them while drunk, that might be a different matter. If they did that in some bars where I live (in New Jersey) there wouldn't be enough jail space in the towns to hold them until the judge arraingns them.


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1418 times:

Arresting people for being drunk in bars makes just about as much sense as arresting patrons for hard-ons at strip bars.

  

(And just about as hard to enforce.   )

[Edited 2006-03-24 06:13:17]

User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

Until a few years ago, it was okay to drink and drive in Texas. Is it election year and some nutjob wants the right wing vote or what.

User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

I wonder how they prove the drunkeness. It's not like operating a car where your license implies consent to a sobriety test. If the person just refuses to take any sort of sobriety test, I doubt that their refusal could be introduced against them at trial because of 5th amendment issues.

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1338 times:

That's an interesting question. I don't know if refusing to take a test can be considered an abrogation of their Fifth Amendment rights.

User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4284 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 10):
I wonder how they prove the drunkeness. It's not like operating a car where your license implies consent to a sobriety test. If the person just refuses to take any sort of sobriety test, I doubt that their refusal could be introduced against them at trial because of 5th amendment issues.

They are calling it public intoxication, so the officers either observe them drinking or ask them to take a breathalizer. Refusal to do so is counted as being drunk.

It will be challenged and should not hold up on appeal.

And if there is an a.net meet in Dallas, don't worry...I'm friends with a bunch of cops here that will help us out in case we're arrested  Smile So should we have a Texas a.net meet in August?  Silly

Texan



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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1297 times:

You know, for a land of the free, there sure are a lot of restrictions today on what we can do, all over the country. The "nanny state" rears its ugly head.

You can't smoke where you want anymore. You are told not to eat certain foods. You can't drive without wearing a seatbelt. You aren't allowed to tell certain jokes.

This isn't the America of freedom the way it used to be.

In some countries, consumption of the formerly banned intoxicant, absinthe, is once again allowed. And yet, as far as I know, nowhere in this country will absinthe be legally consumed in public.

Lest we lose our remaining freedoms, I do believe that we need less law and more common sense.

[Edited 2006-03-28 07:56:59]

User currently offlineMelpax From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 1639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 13):
In some countries, consumption of the formerly banned intoxicant, absinthe, is once again allowed. And yet, as far as I know, nowhere in this country will absinthe be legally consumed in public.

I was at my local liquor store on the weekend looking for a birthday present for a mate, and sure enough there was absinthe available! Bloody expensive though, at AUD$60 a bottle!

Bought her a bottle of Jagermeister instead!!



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User currently offlineRyangooner From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 969 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1248 times:

Its just as illegal to be drunk in any bar in England, Its also against the law to sell alcohol to someone drunk.
However in reality you are never gonna find a cop enter a bar in plain clothes and arrest drunk people! for a start there would be no police left quite rapidly, as they too would be getting nicked left right and centre!!!

A bit of common sense does prevail in England.

On a side note of how to prove drunkeness: A police officer in England is deemed an expert and can give evidence that a person was drunk (whether or not they actually were!), different to drink driving - A person does not need to be drunk to be over the limit.

Ryan



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