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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

It is said that in Scandinavian countries, marriage is becoming less and less important.

If so, isn't the logical result a complete abandonment of the idea that any two people must bind together to create a life to which they are committed?

If marriage as a concept is thrown out, what is to stop polygamists or believers in group sex to start communal institutions that they would argue better suits their own needs?

To me, the 1960's ended when a wave of conservatism inundated this country in the mid-1970's. But in other countries, liberalism of the 1960's "free love" style seems never to have ended. What is the experience of folks from liberal countries regarding the necessity of marriage, and the possibilites of a communal marriage substitute?

Thanks in advance.

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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1959 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
believers in group sex

Well I believe in group sex and there are many married coupes that participate in group sex.



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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1959 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
Well I believe in group sex and there are many married coupes that participate in group sex.

So the two are not mutually exclusive; I agree.

Sex, I think, is God's way of affirming the beauty of relationships, and the fact that I've conflated marriage and sex is therefore simply a conventional affirmation of this principle. (This is a principle that may or may not be accepted by all.)

I think that proof of the necessity of sexual relationships in marriage or marriage-like concepts is the fact that communal relationships often result in sexual encounters. It is, in that sense, "natural", so to speak.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

AerospaceFan:
I hope you don't ask these sorts of questions during intercourse, do you?



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User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
What is the experience of folks from liberal countries regarding the necessity of marriage, and the possibilites of a communal marriage substitute?

I'm atheist, marriage is NOT something that i'd concider for the fact that i dont belive in it.

Group Sex however, i can belive in and TBH... depending on the other people, i might be interested  Wink Haha!



Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
User currently offlineJap From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

Huh? Why's that said?

AFAIK, marriage is not less important here in scandinavia compared to other places...

To me, marriage is not something religious (as it was created before there was anything called "religion", how can it be?), but something you do with someone you want to spend the rest of your life with- something you do with the person you love the most to show your love and commitment to one another.

I do want to get married someday- definitely not because of religion but to show that I care and that the relationship means something to me and I wouldn't throw it out or give it up for anything.

Group sex? Just sounds like a great way to catch something, but if you're into that, go ahead...  vomit 


User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1681 times:

Nothing wrong with group sex as long as everyone has protection. Mainly eye goggles to prevent things from spraying in your eyes.

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 6):
Mainly eye goggles to prevent things from spraying in your eyes.

"Things"?

 eyebrow   eyepopping 


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 7):
"Things"?

Close your eyes and use your imagination! Big grin


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 8):

Close your eyes and use your imagination!

Ick! Too much information!  Wink


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2412 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1658 times:

Um I have never heard that Scandinavia in particular is somewhere where marriage becomes less and less important. Where did you hear this? I myself plan to get married some day, and I think I prefer "ordinary" sex lol.

[Edited 2006-03-29 21:35:40]

User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1561 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 9):
LIck! Too much information!

 Wink


User currently offlineB707321C From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
It is said that in Scandinavian countries, marriage is becoming less and less important.

Where did you get this information? I am not saying it’s incorrect, but I don't think so. On the other hand low marriage rate has nothing to do with free sex etc. I on the other hand, am under the impression that marriage in the US becoming even less popular. The is no other country with more divorces that the US (I heard). Maybe we Scandinavian, take marriage a little bit more serious, so when we first make a commitment, we stand by it and probably are lot more faithful than our colleagues in the US.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Other countries divorce rates are catching up and exceeding the US'. Japan for instance is a good example of this.

Also, while I'm all for sexual freedoms like group sex, gay sex, whatever sex (within reason, no animals, kids etc), I cannot imagine a world where the virtue of marriage has all but disappeared. What state would that leave the kids/future generations in? One parent if their lucky and they might get to serve drinks and mommys weekly gangbang. Married couples, even ones with kids today participate in group sex, swing clubs etc. Most do it in a discreet and safe manner. More power to them. Free love doesn't mean "no marriage". Nor is their any solid evidence of marriage becoming less important. Free love is not a concept the majority of people can get down with.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1361 times:

AerospaceFan:
I have a question for you.
What do you think of this site?

http://www.nomarriage.com/



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User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 6):
Nothing wrong with group sex as long as everyone has protection. Mainly eye goggles to prevent things from spraying in your eyes.

Man, that's funny!!! be like an orgy at a DEVO concert!!


User currently onlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

As far as I know, divorce rates are higher in the US than in the three Scandinavian countries. Still, less people actually get married over here, at least in Sweden. But my question is this: So what? Marriage is basically a religious tradition, and not that many people are religious here. I just don't see the point. My parents never got married, and they separated when I was ten years old. And that worked out for the best for everyone involved. Then again, most of my close friends' parents got divorces when we were around that age, the only couples who are still together are the ones that are not actually married.

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

http://www.libchrist.com/


this is a good site that explains everything.............



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User currently onlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1345 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
I am in the process of deciding what 2nd. language to learn so I'll be prepared for when the $h!t really hits the fan.

How about Canadian?  silly 

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1341 times:

Quoting Doona (Reply 19):
How about Canadian?

Canadian eh?



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User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 15):
Man, that's funny!!! be like an orgy at a DEVO concert!!

Oooohh, that would be sexy. What with the hats and whips and all!



User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1276 times:

Group sex can be fun, been there done that. Marriage, no way in hell!

UAL


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
AerospaceFan:
I have a question for you.
What do you think of this site?

At first glance, I think it's kind of weird. I'd have to explore it some more. It seems to take the position that marriage is bad for men.

Also, thanks to everyone who has already answered the question about why Scandinavian people are sometimes said not to place as much emphasis on marriage.


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