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F1: Australian GP  
User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

So its the Australian GP this weekend - three races in already!

Whos your pic of the top 3 this weekend?

I think its going to be hard to predict the result - with all engines been unreliable its hard to guess, but, I would say if Mclaren can capitalise on their potential and luckless Kimi doesn't need an engine change he is a strong contender for a win.

I'd say the top 3 will probably include: Raikkonen, Alonso and Button/Schumacher/Montoya. Nico is one to watch out for again - I am most impressed with him this year.

I also noticed Stoddy has made a request for Minardi in 2008...if there are other teams competing for the last grid slot, I sure hope it doesn't go to Minardi - really, what have they done for F1? With the likes of Richards and Prodrive rumoured coming to F1 I would much rather see a team with a lot of potential than Minardi.

Prodrive F1 - could be very competitive. I am a great fan of Richards, its a shame BAR/Honda got rid of him.

Adam

Also, Bill142, enjoy the race!  

[Edited 2006-03-30 13:07:17]

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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1871 times:

Quoting BA757 (Thread starter):
I also noticed Stoddy has made a request for Minardi in 2008...if there are other teams competing for the last grid slot, I sure hope it doesn't go to Minardi - really, what have they done for F1? With the likes of Richards and Prodrive rumoured coming to F1 I would much rather see a team with a lot of potential than Minardi.

As he is bidding for what is supposedly the last remaining team slot on the grid and no extra entrants will be allowed, I suspect he sees this as an asset that could be somewhat lucrative to sell in the future rather than a desire to reform a team which he has little chance of pushing up the grid.....

As for the race, Alonso (with a fresh engine) is of course looking good. Fisichella will be feeling confident on the back of his Malaysia win and having won in Australia last year, but I still feel that had Renault not had a problem that made Alonso's car very heavy with fuel he probably would have beaten Fisi in a straight fight. I think McLaren will come good and sort out their reliabilty issues - but not until they get back to Europe. Australia has often seen a lot of cars drop out and it could be a race of attrition. With that in mind you have to put your money on Renault at the moment....



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User currently offlineTifoso From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

Quoting BA757 (Thread starter):
I also noticed Stoddy has made a request for Minardi in 2008

Stoddy should stay out of F1. He created havoc last year! Shameless publicity stunts at every opportunity that he got.

It should be a very strong weekend for Renault (will they ever struggle?), and the Michelin boys in general. I believe Bridgestone were betting on much warmer temperatures, and the cool weather is not working in their favor. B has the hard compound, and with temperatures as low as 20C, getting heat into the tires will be tough.

Hard luck for a Ferrari fan like me  Sad If they overcome this problem, then MS and FM will be at the top of their game  cool 


User currently offlineEgmcman From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 898 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 1):
Australia has often seen a lot of cars drop out and it could be a race of attrition. With that in mind you have to put your money on Renault at the moment....

Partly because Australian GP is the first race of the season normally but it was put back a few weeks later because of the Commonwealth games this year, but I agree about Renault.


User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1831 times:

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 2):
Stoddy should stay out of F1.

I agree with you there.

Quoted From The News In Brief, section in this month Airliner World Mag.

Former Formula 1 team owner Paul Stoddart will establish a third carrier after agreeing terms to acquire five McDonnell Douglas MD-82s from China Southern Airlines. The aircraft will be offered for lease by charter European SkyBus, which will operate as a separate entity to Mr Stoddart's existing Ozjet and European Air Charter businesses.

Why does he bother, with more new airlines.

Tom.



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User currently offlineTSV From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

You can put good money on Webber to finish 5th.


"I told you I was ill ..." Spike Milligan
User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 2):
and with temperatures as low as 20C, getting heat into the tires will be tough.

- Excuse my ignorance, but translate that into Fahrenheit, thanks. Why this country does not use the metric system is still a mystery to me.  confused 

Quoting Egmcman (Reply 3):
Australian GP is the first race of the season normally

- It is difficult to think that Austrailia is Round 3 of the Championship this year. Is it a one time thing?


- If Fernando Alonso doesn't actually win it, he will at least be on the podium  checkeredflag 

 wave 



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User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1805 times:

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 6):
- Excuse my ignorance, but translate that into Fahrenheit, thanks. Why this country does not use the metric system is still a mystery to me.

68 degrees.

QFF


User currently offlineWaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1795 times:

If ferrari can avoid engine changes between first practice and the race, I'd expect schumacher to be a contender, though Alonso and Fisichella must be the 2 favorites... renault has been the fastest and most reliable car thus far. Mclaren really hasn't impressed me, I know they will win races this year, but they have been unreliable AND not terribly fast thus far, while Williams has shown suprising speed, and I'd predict Webber will put on a stunning quali drive and hopefully end up in the top 3 or 4 at the end of the race.

User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1781 times:

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 8):
Mclaren really hasn't impressed me, I know they will win races this year, but they have been unreliable AND not terribly fast thus far

Not really anymore unreliable than a lot of the other teams...

Not too fast? I don't know about that, I think Raikkonen would have blown them away at Malaysia if Klien hadn't taken him out...

I never expect that much from Montoya though - he hasn't shone at Mclaren like he should have done...

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 4):
Why does he bother, with more new airlines.

I have often wondered this myself, he seems to like pissing money away.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 1):
As he is bidding for what is supposedly the last remaining team slot on the grid and no extra entrants will be allowed, I suspect he sees this as an asset that could be somewhat lucrative to sell in the future rather than a desire to reform a team which he has little chance of pushing up the grid.....

Quite possibly, and this is just another reason why he shouldn't get the remaining grid slot - he has had his time in F1, and he has done nothing for it, apart from perhaps, bring a couple of good drivers into F1. Its time for another new team to have ago, a team that will do something for F1.

Anyone believe Super Aguri will be around in 2008? Maybe there will be two grid slots free?

Adam


User currently offlineTifoso From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 9):
Anyone believe Super Aguri will be around in 2008? Maybe there will be two grid slots free?

Yes, Aguri will remain and will be funded by Honda. The rumor about "Dubai F1", i.e. McLaren's B team has been going around for a while now, so that may come to be pretty soon.

I am curious to see what Ghosn will do about Renault. It makes no sense to leave now, they are absolutely stealing all the television coverage.

I'm more interested in the driver shake ups for 2007, there is going to be a lot of moving around!


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4864 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

For all you F1 fans, jump on frontwing.net and jin the fantasy league. You can still play despite missing two races already and you will even get the unspent funds from those races to put towards upcoming races. Do it quickly though, your picks need to be in before qualifying starts.

YOWza



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User currently offlineTSV From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 6):
It is difficult to think that Austrailia is Round 3 of the Championship this year. Is it a one time thing?

Probably due to the Commonwealth Games.



"I told you I was ill ..." Spike Milligan
User currently offlineTifoso From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

Yup, Oz was delayed because of the Commonwealth games. I think turnout at the European races may not be quite as high this year because of the Soccer World Cup.

It sucks that there will be no race at Spa this year, one of my favorite tracks. Eau Rouge flat out would be awesome.  Wow!  Angry


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

News today is that as expected Prodrive have lodged an entry for the 2008 series.

They should certainly not be underestimated with their track record in other categories and will be interesting to see if they forge a partnership with a manufacturer if they do join.

Prodrive have been responsible for the following successful cars:

Subaru rally cars
Aston Martin DB9 GT racer
Ferrari 550 GT Racer
BMW M3 rally cars

and numerous others.....



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User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1734 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 14):
News today is that as expected Prodrive have lodged an entry for the 2008 series.

Music to my ears this. Prodrive have to be granted a slot on the grid, the potential for success is huge.

Dave Richards back in F1 is a good thing.

Adam


User currently offlineWaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 13):
It sucks that there will be no race at Spa this year, one of my favorite tracks. Eau Rouge flat out would be awesome.

It is an amazing track, but I'd imagine with the reduced HP of the new V8s and even higher levels of aero efficiency (more downforce, less drag) than when F1 last raced at spa, Eau Rouge would sadly be just another flat out corner like 130R has become at Suzuka   I wish they would change the aero rules to get rid of all those little wings and lips all over the cars and go back to the beautiful and simple look of the cars in the early 90's, with just a front and rear wing and big slick tires.


Just wanted to add: friday practice has been completed, and after the 2nd session the top 3 drivers are the Honda, Williams, and BMW test drivers, while the "real" racers are lined up right behind in this order- Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, all within a couple of tenths of each other. Should be another epic battle between 4 evenly matched teams and 4 fantastic drivers.

[Edited 2006-03-31 20:30:03]

User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

22 teams have submitted applications for 2008. Those include the current 11 teams, although the GPMA 5 could still potentially split, Minardi and Prodrive. The other 10 remain unknown although the McLaren Dubai project wouldn't be unlikley. It appears now that The GPMA won't split and will remain and apparently if McLaren split from the current series they will loose Vodafone and Fernando Alonso.


I imagine that out of the list off those who have made it know that they have entered an application Minardi will probably loose out due to the relationship between Paul Stoddart and Max Mosley.

Quoting BA757 (Thread starter):
Also, Bill142, enjoy the race!

I most certaily will. Hopefully the weather is good and a McLaren wins the race with no Red cars on the podium!


User currently offlineWaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 17):
22 teams have submitted applications for 2008.

 Wow! That's alot of teams! Bizzare that as recently as a couple years ago people were worried that the grid would drop below the 18 car minimum as teams complained about cost, and now there's a huge bundle of teams willing to step up to the top level... reminds me of the '88-'91 seasons when they had so many cars they were forced to run pre-qualifying sessions on the fridays of weekends to bring the grid down to 28 (IIRC).


User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 17):
Hopefully the weather is good and a McLaren wins the race with no Red cars on the podium!

That would most certainly be the ideal result. RD claims Mclaren have a winning strategy and look good, so lets just keep our fingers crossed!

Adam


User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1643 times:

Quoting TSV (Reply 12):
Probably due to the Commonwealth Games.



Quoting Tifoso (Reply 13):
Yup, Oz was delayed because of the Commonwealth games.

- So, will Australia be Round One in 2007?  checkeredflag 

- Are there still some teams this year that have a third car that practices during the week? And is that third car the back up the for team for the weekend? How does F1 decide what teams get a third car to practice and what teams do not?

David

 wave 



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User currently offlineSenliture From Australia, joined May 2000, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1639 times:

Can anyone in Australia suggests an alternative commentary?
Murray Walker's commentary annoys me a lot.


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1629 times:
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Well they're racing after some drama in the warm up lap, Montoya spun in the last turn (embarrassing!) and Fisichella stalled on the grid forcing a second warm up lap. Trulli spun on lap 1 after touching Coulthard and Massa has damaged his Ferrari, safety car out. Phew!


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineBrendan03 From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 951 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

Damn, I missed the Qantas FlyOver? Bummer.

It's the damn pink pages fault, Bring it down.



Coolier than thou.
User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1620 times:

Anyone see Button's engine blowing up, literally, on Fisichella's face?

Scott Speed gets a point thanks to JB's blown engine...

[Edited 2006-04-02 07:47:54]

25 Andz : Yeah that was pretty wild, an eventful race overall and another good win for Alonso.
26 BA757 : No he doesn't - he has been handed a 25s penalty for overtaking DC under yellows, and fined $5000 for swearing at DC in the hearing! Fantastic action
27 BNE : Action packed race; right to the end, specatular finish with Button blowing up his engine. Webber was leading only to have his gearbox blow up;
28 Post contains images Tiger119 : - He'll probably win the championship, again! - I missed the race last night and was at work today during the rebroadcast on Speed. Everytime I looke
29 Bill142 : A couple were at speed. Like the parade lap and the slow down lap at the end.
30 Post contains images VH-KCT* : What a race! Fantastic action... and we were lucky enough in Australia to have Murray Walker commentating! Actually, you could argue that Super Aguri
31 Post contains images Bill142 : I didn't and heres a picture I took Here are some other GP Pics I took. I recoreded it and I'm watching it now and when it come to F1 Murray is a muc
32 Brendan03 : Awesome! - Wtf I thought it was shitty and overcast? I guess It was just overcast in the west Did you catch the registration?
33 Bill142 : It was VH-OJP It changed fairly quickly. The beginning of the race was sunny but after a few laps the temerature droped and it came over fairly cloud
34 Post contains images VH-KCT* : I think it was a mistake to have 3 people all commentating. Murray should have been given the main role and Neil should have had special comments, be
35 Post contains images Qantas077 : was a good day out, we were camped out near turn 13 were Massa smahed the Ferrari on saturday, i tell you what the Merc safety car sounded better than
36 BA757 : Some nice photos Bill - did you have a GA ticket or a grandstand ticket? Jeremy Clarkson says that too! Adam
37 Cornish : Well apparently BAR's problems can mainly be put down to the fact that they went completely against Michelin's advice on tyre compounds for the race.
38 Post contains images Pipo777 : One more QF 744 pic And a few of the race... First is Klien right after he hit the wall at turn 9...It was worth getting there sooooo early!!! Klien's
39 QANTAS077 : it's the new CLK 63 AMG...awesome machine and it certainly had a strong presence on sunday!
40 Bill142 : I had a GA ticket. I spent most of my time between turn 2 and 5. If I go next year I will probably invest in a grandstand ticket and maybe a better c
41 BA757 : I am going to Imola, I have a granstand ticket and I am hoping that the crash fence won't interfere to much with any photos I would like to get. My f
42 Post contains images Tifoso : I am of the opinion that Button should still be given the 10 grid spot penalty. He is classified in the official race results issued by the FIA, and
43 VH-KCT* : I don't like Ch.10 commentating the F1. I'd prefer James, Martin, Louise & Ted any day over Cromley, Diffo & The Rust. In ITV we have dedicated F1 jo
44 Bill142 : Diffo gets excited over everything. I really wish we could get a live feed through Fox Sports or something which has all three days of practice, qual
45 Post contains images VH-KCT* : 87) a) Each driver may use no more than one engine for two consecutive Events in which his team competes. Should a driver use a replacement engine be
46 Tifoso : That is not correct. Consider all the cars that finish a race 2 laps down. They certainly have not completed 305 km. If your argument were to hold tr
47 VH-KCT* : There is no definition of finish in the FIA Sporting Regulations. What I assume to mean finish is that your car is still under its own power when it
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