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Mercedes E-Class Panorama Roof -- Why So Few?  
User currently offlineLH455 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 87 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5039 times:

Anyone own a 2003 or newer Merc E-Class and decided against panorama roof? I have only seen ONE panorama roof E320/350/500 in NYC in the last few years and wonder if there is a reason (besides price of option/availability)?

Is the safety an issue or have they been known to leak? Some of the newer E-class Benzes have a lot of mech issues so wondering if panorama roof is one.

[Edited 2006-03-30 19:45:12]

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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5020 times:
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Because a BMW is better....


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User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5019 times:

Jaguars are better  Smile

User currently offlineLH455 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5012 times:

Oh Andz, your answer comes as no surprise!

20 years ago I would've argued but these days you speak the truth! I'd get a 3-series over an E-class even if it is smaller -- it's so much tighter!


User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4962 times:

Quoting Christa (Reply 2):
Jaguars are better Smile

Too bad Jaguar is now a Ford product...



Geaux Tigers! Geaux Hornets! Geaux Saints! WHO DAT!!!
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4937 times:

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 4):
Too bad Jaguar is now a Ford product...

Does that mean a Cadillac is a Chevy? Does that mean a Lexus is a Toyota? Does that mean a Buggatti is just a VW? Jags have come a long way after Ford injected money into them, but they are far and away nicer products than anything Ford has ever come up with.



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4926 times:

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 5):
Jags have come a long way after Ford injected money into them, but they are far and away nicer products than anything Ford has ever come up with.

Don't get me wrong, Jaguars are very nice cars. I just find it a shame that Ford took them over. I don't know the reason why it happened, but I guess if Jaguar was having money problems, then Ford taking them over was better than having no Jaguar at all.



Geaux Tigers! Geaux Hornets! Geaux Saints! WHO DAT!!!
User currently offlineLH455 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4922 times:

It's true that Jaguar has done well under Ford, as has Volvo. However, Saab is not doing too hot under GM and Mercedes has gone down after taking on Chrysler. But Chrysler is much better.

Where does that leave us? Oh, right. In the BMW.


User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4906 times:

Quoting LH455 (Reply 7):
In the BMW.

Which has Rolls-Royce (if only I had one)  Smile

If only They bring back the Triumph name (BMW has the rights to Triumph)



Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2376 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4885 times:

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 5):

Does that mean a Cadillac is a Chevy? Does that mean a Lexus is a Toyota? Does that mean a Buggatti is just a VW?

or Maybach is a mercedes.

I have seen a couple of those E-classes with panoramic roof here, but must e-classes in denmark are working as taxis.


User currently offlineLH455 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4860 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 9):
e-classes in denmark are working as taxis.

I wish we could get them outfitted like that in the U.S. -- the black vinyl seats, manual trans, heavy-duty 2-litre diesel engine -- BEST


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2376 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4826 times:

Quoting LH455 (Reply 10):
I wish we could get them outfitted like that in the U.S. -- the black vinyl seats, manual trans, heavy-duty 2-litre diesel engine -- BEST

yeah! Mercedes here have focused on making taxi drivers drive mercedes. (mostly e-classes) They also last for a long time, and when you drive like 300.000 kilometers in just a couple of years, it is actually cheaper than buying a cheaper car to begin with, because it doesn't need to be serviced as often as many other cars.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32627 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4819 times:

Quoting LH455 (Thread starter):
Anyone own a 2003 or newer Merc E-Class and decided against panorama roof? I have only seen ONE panorama roof E320/350/500 in NYC in the last few years and wonder if there is a reason (besides price of option/availability)?

It just have to do with local market demographics. I've seen a good number in South Florida. I wouldn't be surprised if sunbelt buyers are more apt to spend more money on a more expensive sunroof, considering they will use it more.



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User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4814 times:

Quoting LH455 (Thread starter):
Anyone own a 2003 or newer Merc E-Class and decided against panorama roof? I have only seen ONE panorama roof E320/350/500 in NYC in the last few years and wonder if there is a reason (besides price of option/availability)?

Is the safety an issue or have they been known to leak? Some of the newer E-class Benzes have a lot of mech issues so wondering if panorama roof is one.

We bought our E240 in late 2004, and we decided against it because:
-it was the 2004 model, and the 2005 panorama had not arrived yet, nor would it for quite some time.
-More expensive than the 2005 Avantgarde version despite it being the previous year's model.

Those who have the panorama version that we know have no complaints about it, and I haven't heard of any major problems with them...

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 9):
I have seen a couple of those E-classes with panoramic roof here, but must e-classes in denmark are working as taxis.

E-Class taxis? Nice! Most of the taxis here are either Toyota Camrys or Skoda Superbs.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2376 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 4798 times:

Quoting QR332 (Reply 13):

E-Class taxis? Nice! Most of the taxis here are either Toyota Camrys or Skoda Superbs.

yeah it is quite nice, but its a bad thing that so many people here associate the e-class with a taxi, that means that not many people buy E-classes for private use.
here is a picture of what it looks like as a taxi:


but its really nice to get a ride in and most of the taxis are driving with a 3,2 liter CDI engine, so they are pretty fast too  Smile


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 4797 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 1):
Because a BMW is better....

Nicely said. The thread can now be locked. Discussion finished.



One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 4792 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 14):
yeah it is quite nice, but its a bad thing that so many people here associate the e-class with a taxi, that means that not many people buy E-classes for private use.
here is a picture of what it looks like as a taxi:

Same as with the Camry here - but the Toyota dealership isn't complaining, they sold 2,000 Camrys to the transport company! But, the colours make the car look ugly IMO... the E240 is a beautiful car and the taxi livery does not do it justice.

http://www.mowasalat.com/eng/ - the Qatar transport company site.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2376 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4788 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 15):
Nicely said. The thread can now be locked. Discussion finished.

what took you so long?  Wink

Quoting QR332 (Reply 16):
E240 is a beautiful car and the taxi livery does not do it justice.

I second that!  Smile


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4781 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 17):
what took you so long?

I broke my laptop power adapter during the week and had to wait for a new one to arrive from the guy off Ebay! Big grin



One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2376 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4779 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 18):
I broke my laptop power adapter during the week and had to wait for a new one to arrive from the guy off Ebay!

poor you! I was afraid that you had been drinking too much tea lately  Wink


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4774 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 19):
I was afraid that you had been drinking too much tea lately

Not at all but I've been grilling lots of bacon. Hmm, bacon.



One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2376 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4773 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 20):
Not at all but I've been grilling lots of bacon. Hmm, bacon.

sucks to be you.  Smile

[Edited 2006-04-01 17:35:20]

User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4757 times:

No no, Audi is the best now! BMW make rubbish looking cars with ill-designed screens and crappy ergonomics. Ultimate driving machine? Methinks not!


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2376 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4751 times:

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 22):
No no, Audi is the best now! BMW make rubbish looking cars with ill-designed screens and crappy ergonomics. Ultimate driving machine? Methinks not!

exactly!!!
Audi makes some nice cars, but I am a hardcore Mercedes fan... My dad is probably going to buy that Q7 though, and I am going to test drive it tomorrow.. can't wait!!
I had the chance to try a Porsche Cayenne and a Cayenne S a few days ago.. the Cayenne was too slow. The 3.2 liter engine is simply not enough for that big car. the 4.5 liter engine was much better! I would love to be the owner of such a car!  Smile


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4748 times:

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 22):
Ultimate driving machine?

Dude, you drive a Vento. Your comment is invalid.

Hell, last time I went driving with you, you hit a sign post in the scottish highlands and ended up head first in an RB211.


http://www.tmfy.com/personal/edinburgh/images/IMG_2678_JPG.jpg

http://www.tmfy.com/personal/edinburgh/images/IMG_2767_JPG.jpg

More of CaptainDumbassGomes driving here!

http://www.tmfy.com/personal/edinburgh/

[Edited 2006-04-01 19:10:31]


One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 25, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4738 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 24):
Hell, last time I went driving with you, you hit a sign post in the scottish highlands and ended up head first in an RB211.

You IDIOT! That happened to be there! I didn't hit anything, and it's not my fault over there you have fake Superman trying to lift my rented Renault or sign posts laying haphazardly along the road side. Now go back to chasing chav ass, you nitwit.



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
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