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Florida School Declares London Unsafe, Cancel Trip  
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs....AID=/20060317/NEWS01/60317033/1075

 Yeah sure

Followed by a rather childish, but somewhat understandable, retaliation from London officials:

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/04/02/tourism.dispute.ap/


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User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

And the USA is, of course, at no risk from terrorists at all...  Yeah sure

User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2079 times:

Our school is still going to Paris and look at all the cr@p going on their! this is a load of cr@p.


Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2068 times:

100% with London here, what idiocy by Florida.

User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Also - who knows what could happen in the world before the 2007 New Year's Day Parade...! Or do the Floridians have intelligence that something is going to 'go down' on that particular day in London?! Maybe the USA will advise all its citizens to leave the UK, it's just far too dangerous!

[Edited 2006-04-02 20:39:03]

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 4):
Maybe the USA will advise all its citizens to leave the UK, it's just far too dangerous!

Well, it's fair enough to criticise the school, but we don't need to widen it to the whole country. Governor Bush's comments seem fairly scathing about the decision.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Seems that the isolationist policy of some years back is alive and well in Florida. Ah well, a lot of disappointed kids are going to be voting something else when it's their turn to vote.

Lets face it, the most dangerous thing in London is Ken Livingstone Big grin

Andy  old 



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User currently onlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3007 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

Very idiotic and childish decision!

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

From the article:

>>We’re leery of loading 140 students onto an airplane and flying across the ocean to London, where they just had a terrorist attack,”<<

By the same (stupid) measure, shouldn't for instance NYC be dozens of times more dangerous than London?


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

Quoting Piercey (Reply 2):
Our school is still going to Paris and look at all the cr@p going on their! this is a load of cr@p.

Yeah but if you threaten them, they at least surrender.... Big grin



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User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 6):
the most dangerous thing in London is Ken Livingstone

 Wink



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User currently offlineHighpeaklad From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

I've always thought the safest time to visit anywhere was just after aterrorist attack, or at least to a place that has been attacked. At least those places know the threat is real and don't have the "it won't happen here " mentality.

I find the phrase in the article "He said there are plenty of opportunities for marching bands such as college bowl games or holiday parades in major cities, where student safety is assured." particularly chilling.

Chris



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User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

I think it's wrong to not go, but then again we live in such a litigious society I imagine the school board is afraid of being liable in the (unlikely) event that something happens.

User currently offlineEspion007 From Denmark, joined Dec 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1916 times:

Hey, I live near washington DC-and was downtown today. I must be flirting with death Big grin

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 13):
I think it's wrong to not go, but then again we live in such a litigious society I imagine the school board is afraid of being liable in the (unlikely) event that something happens.

Seriously, whats the chances of something happening thats terroristic (is that a word?)



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User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3079 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

Quoting Espion007 (Reply 14):
Seriously, whats the chances of something happening thats terroristic (is that a word?)

It is now.. wink 

Guess it depends on where you got...I mean down town Baghdad.....Probably pretty good.....

Downtown London.....Probably pretty small.

Guess the problem is if there is a terroristic attack anywhere in Europe some parents will sue the school board....(assholes)

GS

*notice the deft use of new word in post.  thumbsup 



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Behaviour like this means the Terrorists have won.

Thats exactly what they wanted to acheive by striking fear into people, and in this case it seems to have worked.

Does this mean that the school won't allow those kids to cross the street, as there is a higher chance of them being knocked down than there is of being caught up in a terrorist attack.

More people are killed in road accidents around the world than have ever been killed by terrorism - just one is so common it doesn't even make the news.

Some people need to get reality check

 Yeah sure



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User currently offlineNonrevman From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

I like the British answer to all of this. Let's face it, going to Ft. Meyers is like rolling the dice. You could get washed away by a hurricane! Also, many regard Florida as being the birthplace of road rage. I was giving some students information on electricity, and we discovered that central Florida is in fact the "lightning strike" capital of the world. Sheeesh, give me London any day.........

User currently offlineDaedaeg From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

This is too bad. The marching band is going to miss out on an opportunity to experience London.


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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

I can understand to some extent of the fears of that school board. The visit was to be during a New Year's Day parade, which could be a terror target. But then again, so could downtown Miami, New York City and so on. London has had plenty of experience with terror in their long history and since the 1960's with IRA and Islamic related terror attacks. I have been in London and many other areas of Europe since the 1980's that have also been subject to terror attacks but still felt safe.
This was also very expensive and the money (about $250,000) could be better spent on scholrships or college tutition for themselves or fellow students. The school board may have also had issues with the special or higher premiums for their liability insurance.


User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1755 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 15):

Guess the problem is if there is a terroristic attack anywhere in Europe some parents will sue the school board....(assholes)

Surely the 'asshole' parents just shouldn't give consent for their child to participate, in that case.


User currently offlineOli80 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

Quoting Highpeaklad (Reply 11):
I've always thought the safest time to visit anywhere was just after aterrorist attack, or at least to a place that has been attacked. At least those places know the threat is real and don't have the "it won't happen here " mentality.

I used to think like this as well. But, there was that failed attack just a week after the initial attack in London. Sure, it failed, but the intent was there.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24923 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

Quoting Banco (Thread starter):
Followed by a rather childish, but somewhat understandable, retaliation from London officials:

Aye, but it's frightfull funny old chap. One has to be amused at these antics  Wink



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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

if something is going to happen, it's going to friggin happen....

remember that class of kids that were on TWA 800? even if France was unsafe back then, it's not always the reason why......

don't be scared to live man, hell i live in a war zone



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User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 47
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

What a retard. Some of these kids will never got to Europe again in their lives, and they're going to miss the empathy and appreciation one gets for other cultures when travelling, just because this dude's a xenophobic ass.

If he's lucky, a school superintent position might open up in Kansas.



"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1698 times:

“We’re leery of loading 140 students onto an airplane and flying across the ocean to London, where they just had a terrorist attack,” said Herb Wiseman, who oversees secondary operations for Lee County schools. “We don’t think at this time that it’s worth the risk.”

This guy was repeatedly dropped on the head as a kid. Honestly... I think Florida has more problems than London right now. In fact if I had the money, I would take my wife and I over to England for a little trip. My mom has a friend that lives in Lancashire, I believe.



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25 Oli80 : I was due to go to Israel for a football competition in 1999 with my school (The British School in the Netherlands). 2 weeks before the competition wa
26 Delta767300ER : Remember, most Floridians are not from Florida but have moved down here from other states...... -Delta767300ER
27 Post contains images JRadier : NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'm going on vacation to Ft. Myers (well, Naples actually), do I have to cancel my trip now?
28 Post contains images Cadet57 : bit of a redundant statement, imho yes, as you will be hit by a fluke hurricane, attacked by gators and be called a "dang foreigner" that and the EU
29 LHMARK : Florida. Where the state motto is "She hit me first."
30 Banco : The irony of this of course, is that something like 40% of overseas visitors to Florida are British. This little spat won't make the slightest differe
31 Greyhound : Oh stop... I'm starting to laugh hard enough it hurts. But you also forgot to mention that when it doesn't rain you get fires up the ying yang in the
32 DeltaGator : I was so hoping that this school was in Broward or Dade County since those yahoos are the root cause of most trouble in the state. Unfortunately it w
33 Post contains images Boeing Nut : We’re leery of loading 140 students onto an airplane and flying across the ocean to London, where they just had a terrorist attack Oh...............
34 Greyhound : We get the same in Arizona and the results are often devastating, except we don't get the rain.
35 Cadet57 : Delete please delete[Edited 2006-04-03 21:07:41]
36 USAFHummer : Was it me, or did the CNN article in the original post seem like it could have been taken right out of "The Onion"? That might be the funniest actual
37 Post contains images Cadet57 : oops your right, ive fixed my post...
38 Arsenal@LHR : “We’re leery of loading 140 students onto an airplane and flying across the ocean to London, where they just had a terrorist attack,” said Herb
39 Post contains images JRadier : How do you think they will respond to four dutchies walking around in Heineken shirts and a dutch flag on the 4th of july? (semi serious ) Sounds swe
40 N1120A : Not particularly. Jeb's words had pretty much no teeth at all.
41 Post contains images BDKLEZ : What a twonk! The USA is probably one of the most dangerous places in the world with all the legal firearms knocking about. You just have to look at s
42 Tom in NO : .....and the state bird is the snowbird....and the state automobile is anything built by Buick. Btw, the principal is a paranoid moron. Tom at MSY
43 Flyboy36y : I wish that BA would pull out of MIA and any other FL airports that they fly to and the Brits issue a formal advisory against Florida travel. The prit
44 DeltaGator : First off, spell it right...it's Xenophobe. Second, don't punish the state because of one moron. Update from last night is that the Lee County School
45 Post contains images Flyboy36y : At 3 am, I cant spell or type And I'd punish the state for other reasons such as bieng America's half-erect penis, Universal Studios, old people, KMI
46 Greyhound :
47 Post contains images Mhodgson : Dammit, I'd repressed that memory! Good to see people have seen sense over the issue.
48 Greyhound : They're still not getting me frosted Lucky Charms.
49 DeltaGator : Crap! Now that damn song is in my head too. Damn you Flyboy36y! Again, spell it right. But even as a native Florida Cracker I think we should be puni
50 Banco : I'm not sure it matters. Enough people over there have made the point that it was a daft decision in the first place, and ultimately, that's what's i
51 Post contains images Piercey : All three TB fans want to kill you now people from America actually have a brain? OMFG!!!!! It's a miracle!!!!! Don't make me send BC!
52 DeltaGator : Huh? Boston College?
53 Greyhound : Bring in Kansas City fans and you MIGHT have a 6 pack.
54 Post contains images BDKLEZ : Something tells me you won't. The difference being that the guys who make this stuff... ...don't consider themselves to be the right hand of national
55 B6sea : OK first of all, I dont agree with what the Ft. Myers school board did, but in this forum the idiocy is clearly in the court of the foreigners... no o
56 LHMARK : Dude, I'm American and I don't comprehend that.
57 Delta767300ER : Ya they do! I'm not a native Floridian but I'm from the state North of Florida and have lived here for a long time. Sometimes when I go to West Palm
58 Banco : What a load of nonsense. Huge numbers of Brits go to the US on holiday - and to Florida at that. Huge numbers of Brits (including me) made a specific
59 N1120A : That post just about sums it up. It goes to the very roots of the problems facing the US today.
60 DeltaGator : Come college football season check out the regional maps of what games are shown where. While the Florida/FSU/Miami games will all get shown in the s
61 B6sea : I'm not saying you don't like the US, thats totally not the point. I'm also not saying that I dont like Europe. You're right, in the sense that I hav
62 Stirling : The school will probably wind up rescheduling for another parade somewhere, like the Orange Bowl Parade...............in Miami. Because we all know Mi
63 ME AVN FAN : - What counts is not so much whether you Irish drink it, but that you continue to produce it ! - understandable, but regrettable.
64 DeltaGator : That's because the British are much more polite than the Damn Yankees that have invaded the Sunshine State. And in spite of the yankees moving South
65 Fumanchewd : London scares the hell out of me. Tall towers with people getting beheaded inside, Jack the Ripper, and don't get me started on the condescending and
66 Post contains images Banco : So what you're saying is that it's perfectly fine for people in Florida to be so insular that they say they won't go to London because it's not safe,
67 Post contains images Gatorman96 : Wow, I'm surprised how some people are so offended by this. Who gives a sh!t. It is one school led by one idiot who is totally closed-minded. How bout
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