LV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2020 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2815 times:
About a month or so ago, I quit coming to A.net at every chance I get. I used to come here at every chance I could but suddenly I lost interest in the topics.
I am someone who always loves to fly. I fly any chance I can get. the anticipation, the takeoff, the landing. I am always so excited when I get to the airport. Then last week I flew for the first time since September and flying just wasnt the experience it used to be. It was just a function, a means to an end, a way to get where I needed to go. Take off wasnt thrilling at all.
Now I am going to fly two times in the next month and usually I get a rush from booking my tickets. This time....nothing.
I am worried because I used to love trains and knew everything about them. Then I lost interest in trains about the same time I discovered A.net. I am afraid I am losing my interest in planes too.
Please tell me this is just a temporary condition.
MaxQ2351 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2768 times:
Your A.net profile says you're only 21-25!! As they say, you're just a young man and still finding your way!! What do I know though, I'm still younger than you........heh, oh well. I think it's a passing thing......both my parents work for the airlines, and back in high school I could care less if we took a weekend vacation somewhere, but now that I'm in college and on my own, flying has taken on a whole new meaning for me again. Maybe it's one of those brain cycle things.........I won't even try to go there!! Anyhow, it's nice to see I'm not the only one with a Homer Simpson quote for my signature!!
L1329II From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2731 times:
I think this is normal. Its a natural shift in interests. For me at least its burnout on a hobby. I can remember spending hours on end for a few months in 1997 glued to an AOL chat room. I guess it was just the novelty of having the abitlity to talk to other people from all over then it turned into a habit. One day I remember sitting down and thinking "what the heck am I doing?" I turned to computer off went outside and ran and I havent entered a chat room since.
I work in IT and years ago I used to get excited about fixing peoples computers and building new ones. I now almost get frustrated if I have to even open the case of the computer.
I love aviation. I was born into aviation but I havent been in aviation for over 10 years. I miss it terribly but someday I will turn on my computer log into a.net and wonder "what the heck and I doing?"
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2702 times:
I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I will say this on the remote chance that it may be applicable: check out the warning signs of depression. One of them is a loss of interest in things that were formerly enjoyable. Obviously, I know zippo about you, but if you happen to see other signs that you think apply to you, then it'd be a good idea to consult the appropriate medical professional.
While I am not a psycologist, I have seen the progressions that several artist friends of mine have made, and have come up with some theories to overcome the situation. Take a breather for a while; pay some attention to something else that interests you; pay attention to something completely opposite of your interest.
Just my two cents.
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Lindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2676 times:
Quoting L1329II (Reply 2): I work in IT and years ago I used to get excited about fixing peoples computers and building new ones. I now almost get frustrated if I have to even open the case of the computer.
I Agree 100% with you on this
I can't imagine loosing interest in aviation. Commercial aviation is big part of my life (I'm not even working in the industry).
Do you have new hobby or interests? If not then you might be depressed.
Komododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2625 times:
Are you flying within the US? If so, no wonder you lost interest! I love aviation and still come here every chance I get (even during my 3-month bans) and even sometimes I really busy and don't get one for a few days at a time, I love aviation. I've been flying since I was 4 years old (first flight was a LH 742 BOG-FRA).
However, I'm never overly excited when I have to get on a DL Connection ERJ or CRJ down to FLL from TLH. Cramped, no food service whatsoever, and in general a short and boring flight. Nonetheless, I still love aviation and love coming to this site.
Although, as others said, it might be a shift in interests.
Tranceport From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2527 times:
No, you're not depressed because you've lost an interest in civil aviation.
It happened to me as well. I used to eat, live, breathe and sleep civil aviation and dream about flying and civil aircraft. My life interests diversified. I did a lot of flying. I saw US airlines' service decline in the past twenty years. Cynicism took over as I started to see how poorly many flight attendants and customer service agents are treated by the travelling public. Food service and the whole travel experience became cheapened by less customer service. Choosing itineraries that let me transit as many airports and see as much new ground as possible became frustrating and a hassle when frequent travel became a necessity for business. Increased security and not being able to walk along airport concourses took much of the joy out of the hobby for me.
A.net used to be fun. The posters were educated and the the discussion was civil (no pun intended). As with many chat forums, the longer they are around the wider the audience becomes and the quality starts to decline. People lose respect for each other and use the anonymity of the internet to attack and abuse each other with little or no respect. Controversial topics that mean little in the bigger view of life turn into angry exchanges. Perhaps I'm just jaded. To be sure, there are still many great people here who share a wealth of great information about all things aviation, but if you scan the list of topics there's often not much of any significance. Maybe that's just another sign of me having lost interest. I used to live on A.net and now I rarely come here.
It's also cyclical. Burnout happens. I collect electronica and listen to it for hours on end. Sometimes I get tired of it and take a break for a few weeks or months, but I always find my way back in some capacity. Aviation is the same. You will always carry some interest. Even though I don't care that much about it anymore, I still can't hear the hushed roar of an airplane without scanning the sky to find it. When I see a contrail heading out over the Pacific, I always find myself wondering to what transoceanic city it's headed. Now that I don't fly much, I find the whole flying experience to be somewhat fun, but the magic is not there.
SirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2458 times:
I just went through this! I'm 25 and I quit coming to A.net for about two months. Well I'm back now. I'm still busy and I dont spend nearly as much time here as I used to. But it is back as a part of my life. I dont know why I stopped, I dont know if it was burnout or if I was busy with other stuff. Maybe it was because I just booked another flight for this summer and decided to see whats going on at A.net. See if there were any new pilot trip reports or what interesting things were going on.
When I had some extra cash last month I was considering just going flying for a day. Find the cheapest ticket and take a Wednesday off work, show up at the airport with just me and my iPod and some snacks and fly around as much I could all day - as many legs as I could fit in on planes I've never flown before (I wanted to make sure I could get on a domestic 777 flight or other large A/C). Of course, I had to go spend some money on other stuff (a real flight to NY for four days) so its on the shelf.
NAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2448 times:
LV, I've been spending less time on A.net recently, too. But the reason is that the civil aviation field is just in a 'slow news' period; there are fewer events, fewer news stories, fewer 'burning issues', fewer interesting topics to discuss.
I expect (hope) that that's why you're finding it less addictive just at the moment. If so, wait a while; things will wake up in a week or two!
Anyone care to speculate on what the next 'big event' will be? My guess is that it will be the Singapore Airlines order (with special reference to the 747-8).
"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
Why worried? If you've lost interest, then that's not a problem. Everyone has interests that come and go - I used to be majorly into mountain biking, then offroad driving - now I don't care much for them. I don't feel that I've lost anything by not doing them, I'm just doing other things at the moment.
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11161 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2401 times:
Quoting LV (Thread starter): I am worried because I used to love trains and knew everything about them. Then I lost interest in trains about the same time I discovered A.net. I am afraid I am losing my interest in planes too.
What exactly is the reason why you suddenly lost interest in trains? Why a switch from trains to planes? Why not both?
I am interested in trains as well (quite a bit actually), have always for a long time, but my #1 interest is aviation, has always been aviation, and will always be aviation.
I have had a love for aviation for as long as I can remember.
If aviation is something that deeply interests you, then perhaps what you are experiencing is just temporary. We go through mood swings from time to time.
Take a break. Do other stuff to keep yourself busy and entertained. In a few months, when a plane buzzes over your head while you are taking a walk, you might suddenly get that aviation interest back.
"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2389 times:
Quoting NAV20 (Reply 12): But the reason is that the civil aviation field is just in a 'slow news' period; there are fewer events, fewer news stories, fewer 'burning issues', fewer interesting topics to discuss.
Funny,I feel the same way. A lot of the topics seem mind-numbing!
Mah584jr From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 514 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2363 times:
Quoting Tranceport (Reply 9): A.net used to be fun. The posters were educated and the the discussion was civil (no pun intended)
I do remember those days. One thing I've noticed is that hardly anyone can admit that they're wrong about something on these threads. I personally have refrained from saying many things on a thread because I knew that I would be blasted for making an error, rather than being corrected in a nicer manner. Biases are present everywhere you go, and sometimes one can feel like they've forgotten why they loved aviation in the first place. I always just like to go down and do some spotting. It always reminds me of why I love aviation. Thanks for all those that have contributed to making this site what it is today.
L1329II From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2300 times:
Quoting Lindy (Reply 5): Do you have new hobby or interests? If not then you might be depressed.
Oh I have alot of interests but none that I can afford! Depressed... I never thought of that. My mind is always running crazy. Its amazing I will sit at work in front of a computer ALL DAY doing things but at the end of the day I wont accomplish a thing! But once I find something (like a.net, cars, airplanes, computers etc... anything interactive) I live and breathe it every waking minute until I eventually burn out.
I don't think you have anything to worry about. I'm twenty-five myself and had a similar experience when I was around twenty-one. It wasn't that I lost interest in aviation in the least, I still enjoy going to the local airports and watching planes, I still enjoy a.net, frequent trips, etc., but it's not as exciting and magical as it was when I was younger.
Perhaps it's because the older you get the more you learn about aviation and some of the mystery dissapears? I don't think this just applies to aviation though, but to all sorts of things. I know for me personally things that might have utterly facinated me as a child, became easier to comprehend and understand as I got older and this took some of the excitment out of certain things. It's sort of like how things that may seem utterly giant, or awesome to a child may seem to get smaller the older they get and the more they grow.
As far as loosing interest in flying itself.... I've always loved flying and to this day still do. But I can distinctly remember when the experience of flying on an airliner started to become less exciting and more routine for me. It was 1994, and s a child I had taken dozens of trips to visit family located around the country. Most often aboard Delta 727s. I remember I couldn't sleep for days before a trip and everything about it from checking in at the ticket counter to the landing itself was just an awe-inspiring, magical, and facinating experience in my mind, with many vivid memories still ingrained in my head for life. For example, although it's been twenty years, I'll never forget the smell that would greet you when you stepped through the jetway onboard a Delta 727. Kind of a combination between a new car, and stale coffee.
However, one year in 1994 after close to a year of no trips, I boarded a USair 737 in PWM bound for MEM via PIT. This was my first time flying on USair, and previously anytime I was flying on a new airline it just made the experience 10x more exciting. However, in the days leading to this trip I noticed I wasn't thinking about it every hour, or loosing sleep. When they day came I remember taking off and landing in MEM several hours later and for some reason I couldn't explain there just hadn't been the same feelings or excitment that I had always felt when going on trips previously. I liked the ride and all, but it just wasn't the same and I think I actually fell asleep on that plane for the first time in my life aboard a plane.
This was twelve years ago, and like I said, I still enjoy a nice flight, but it's just not the same as when I was younger. I hate to say it, but it became routine for me. Then around twenty-one, a similar experience happened with my and planes in general. Perhaps, becoming ineligible for a 1st class med, and a sudden end of my plans to finish flight school contributed, but I don't think it was the soul reason because the interst is still there. Just these days I have the ability to take a break from things for a few days at a time instead of being obsessed with aviation. That's just my experience!
On a side not, perhaps you've been finding yourself loosing interest in the forums with a lot of us. Every week there seems to be more and more junk topics that start off something like "What's that funny sound I heard on the A320 I flew to MCO last week" It seems like in the past I actually could come to these forums and advance my knowledge or at least read some really interesting topics posted. These days sometime I think they should launch Airliners.Junior.net with a logo of a baseball hat with one of the propellers on the top. Perhaps, it's just the shear number of members that have joined over the years though, and there's just a higher volume of people that are facinated with aviation , but don't have a clue about it. I'll probably still be dropping by airliners.net for the foreseable future!
DFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2168 times:
I had sort of lost interest in aviation too, as I work in airline operations on a daily basis. I didn't listen to my scanner anymore, when I used to have in on all the time. I had lost track of the flight schedules, etc. But then last year I did something crazy. On a Thursday I decided to fly that following Saturday morning, as soon as I got off work Friday late night, to fly from DFW-LHR and then go to DUB to be on AA's inaugural DUB-ORD flight. I was the second passenger AA ever boarded in DUB. I went to Europe on Saturday, AA90 where you fly all day and land in London at night. And I was home from Europe on Monday night. I'm now 10x the avaiation nut that I was before. Then in the summer I flew, by myself again, to Paris to go to the Paris Air Show and see the A380.
Until then I had replaced my aviation hobby with some online computer gaming that some friends from work were involved in, such as Everquest. Now they keep nagging me that I'm not online enough, and that's because I'm now back into avaiation full-steam, and I've lost interest in the gaming.
I got back into Flight Simulator as well, which is really advanced now because you can put the actual airline schedules into the AI Traffic, where you can simulate your home airport by tweaking the airline schedules, and where they park, etc.
I've also gotten more involved in photography too, and am trying to learn enough to be able to post here too.
Halophila From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 652 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2148 times:
As with all things, one loses interest when one either finds something else more interesting, or it becomes tedious or boring with the same thing being said over and over. Its like work: you can be in an indiana jones-esque job, but even that gets boring if you do it too often.
I've been that way too recently (and I'm 28). I do a lot of flights a year, mainly to and from Australia from the west coast of the US, and now they all seem like a bus ride to me. Not even some thrill on takeoff.
One thing that has sparked my interest once again is the prospect of travelling on some unusual airlines and routes. This summer I'm flying interisland in Cape Verde, then to Portugal and from Portugal back to the east coast of the US. But show me another transpacific flight and I'd sooner just take a couple of nyquil and bottle of wine and be done with it!
Take a break, mate, and come back to it. You'll find it exciting again when it doesn't seem so mundane.
Hb88 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 831 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2124 times:
I think this is normal - I go through ups and downs myself.
The one thing which has nearly killed my pleasure of flying itself has been flying for business. I probably fly at least 3 if not 4 times a month and although flying around Europe and to Australasia is always interesting, it doesn't quite have the buzz it used to.
Working in the industry interestingly hasn't really affected this at all though. Behind the scenes, particularly working in one of the major manufacturers, there is a lot more going on and you have much more direct access to the *really* interesting stuff than perhaps if you aren't in the business.
This is the reason, in terms of a.net forum issues, I've started to switch off from these hugely. Not for the reason that I've lost interest, but because when you know the facts behind a lot of the A v B blahblahfests, it gets a lot less interesting and more time consuming to try and make any sensible comment (without breaching your own standards of business conduct in terms of confidential information and patience). The signal-to-noise ratio is pretty low and it gets extremely annoying seeing certain statements repeated as received truths when they are nothing of the kind - and you can't really correct them without having to make judgements on what can be said publically. It's easier not to.
This gets frustrating. So whereas before, I would read the latest slagging match against Airbus and throw in a comment (working there, I feel qualified to comment on Airbus but not on Boeing ), these days it's a squeak against the roar and it's not worth it. I think that's why it's been observed before that Airbus people post far less frequently than Boeing people on a.net.
Quoting NAV20 (Reply 12): Anyone care to speculate on what the next 'big event' will be? My guess is that it will be the Singapore Airlines order (with special reference to the 747-8).
To throw a cat amongst the pigeons - my controversial guess is Boeing failing to meet delivery target undertakings with the 787 due to certification issues, supplier delays and OEM problems and customers cancelling orders to time with the EIS of whatever incarnation the A350 finally appears in.