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Muslim Anger At Playboy Magazine  
User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3149 times:



A toned-down edition of Playboy will go on sale in Indonesia on Friday.

The move defies calls from Islamic leaders for the magazine to be banned in the mostly Muslim country. It will not feature nude women and the photos of female models will be no more risqué than those in other magazines already for sale.

But the Indonesia Council of Clerics disagrees wants the magazine banned, regardless of its content.

"We reject Playboy magazine because it is an icon of pornography," said council head Maruf Amin.

"By insisting to publish, they are daring to face the opposition of society."

Playboy already publishes local editions in 17 other countries.

It is planning to launch a version of the magazine without nude photos in India soon.

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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3148 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Thread starter):
It will not feature nude women and the photos of female models will be no more risqué than those in other magazines already for sale.

Then why publish it? That sounds quite dull.

Quoting 9VSPO (Thread starter):
The move defies calls from Islamic leaders for the magazine to be banned in the mostly Muslim country.

Then don't f***ing read it!



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
Then don't f***ing read it!

Ok...calm down...calm down!  Silly

I'm just reporting the facts LOL.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20647 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
Then why publish it? That sounds quite dull.

You mean you don't read it "for the articles"?  silly 



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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
Then why publish it? That sounds quite dull.

Dull? No way! I buy it solely to read the articles  liar 

(But seriously ... do any men under age 50 still get Playboy?)



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):
You mean you don't read it "for the articles"?

I just like the Bar Jokes page.  Wink


User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

You see some nations are run by their culture, and other nations have a weak culture and are more "free" in this department...however i don't think something this sensitive should be pushed onto the world's largest muslim nation....


The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20647 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3108 times:

Quoting Pilotaydin (Reply 6):
i don't think something this sensitive should be pushed onto the world's largest muslim nation.

Playboy is forcing people to buy their magazine now? Shocking.



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3085 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
Playboy is forcing people to buy their magazine now? Shocking

Unless you're assuming, i don't recall saying anything like that...



The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3085 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):
You mean you don't read it "for the articles"?

If one is just sitting around I'll read it. The pictures are an added bonus.

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 5):
I just like the Bar Jokes page.

They are pretty funny.

Quoting Pilotaydin (Reply 6):
however i don't think something this sensitive should be pushed onto the world's largest muslim nation....

I doubt Playboy would publish in the country if there wasn't a demand for it. There is no "pushing" going on here.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineBeefstew25 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3067 times:

Quoting Pilotaydin (Reply 6):
however i don't think something this sensitive should be pushed onto the world's largest muslim nation....

I agree...they obviously are not mentally prepared to handle it, and are unable to make decisions for themselves...



MLB: Where you are always number one for takeoff.....
User currently offlineStudentFlyer From Australia, joined Sep 2004, 688 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2928 times:

Well.. being a non-Muslim that comes from Indonesia, and lived there about 3 months each year, with all respect to the Muslim community in Indonesia, it is somehow saddening me that, from who we were before, as a country of democracy, which respected sensitive issues, are actually turning things around now.

We are, at the moment, publishing a law (Anti-Pornography and Pornoaction) which says if you're a female, you can't wear sleeveless tank tops, mini-skirts or those with belly buttons visible. For goodness sake, we can't even kiss or hug in public, nor hold hands. Fines will be imposed if one is caught! Now, from what I've heard, Malaysia has the same sort of thing. But, for something as big as Indonesia, there are a lot more important issues that needs to be resolved by the government, such as local uprising and etc. Why do I raise these sorts of issue? Because this law was brought up due to Playboy's intention in entering the market. Anyhow, rumours also say that those models that are related to Playboy have been caught by the police! This is nonsense!

Ironically, most soap-operas in Indonesia tends towards the love life of teenagers, which, in deeper sense, is provoking more people to do such thing, more than that of Playboy's influence (and moving these soap operas to prime time TV, while other 'more important' and 'more suitable' stuff for all ages has to give way to a late-night show). Howcome this does not caught the government's eyes?

During Soeharto's regime, as well as Wahid's reign, we were given the freedom (although something like Playboy would definitely be banned, and censorship are high), and nothing like this would ever come up! We were a developing country which, for a while, was keeping up with other developing or developed nations, but now, that could no longer be the case. Where's the freedom? (Not referring to the publication of Playboy, but more towards the Anti-Pornography & Pornoaction laws).

I apologise if this offends anyone, I did not intend to in any way. I believe that Playboy should be given the rights of publication - with the censorship being imposed, simply because there are other magazines that have been published, with something worse, but due to "Playboy's" branding, they didn't pass the censorship. That said, the culture needs to be appreciated and retained.


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2921 times:

Hmm, maybe the Council of Clerics might want to take a look at the comps of single Indonesians throughout the country, I'm sure they could find some interesting stuff there  scratchchin   eyebrow .

User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6818 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2851 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Thread starter):
"We reject Playboy magazine because it is an icon of pornography," said council head Maruf Amin.

Then don't read the magazine Maruf Amin!!!

Time you people learn about what a free society is all about....


User currently offlinePIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

I don't think they should complain. Just don't buy the magazine.

PIA777



GO CUBS!!
User currently offlineHKA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 148 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2810 times:

Quoting Slider (Reply 13):

Are their no limits to a free society?

With your logic, people should be allowed to sell drugs and guns freely and if someone is against them, then he should not buy them !!

There is no limit to porn and now people have gone to the extent of child porn.
What a shame, people use freedom to justify anything...


User currently offlineBeefstew25 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

Quoting HKA (Reply 15):
Are their no limits to a free society?

With your logic, people should be allowed to sell drugs and guns freely and if someone is against them, then he should not buy them !!

There is no limit to porn and now people have gone to the extent of child porn.
What a shame, people use freedom to justify anything...

I don't look to the government to make my decisions for me, such as 'free' health care, which you may know about. How long does it take to get an MRI, like 3-4 weeks? Gotta love than freedom!



MLB: Where you are always number one for takeoff.....
User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Angry Muslims?!?! My god the sky is falling. What's next, a headline that reads: "George W. Bush Caught in Truth"!?

User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

Quick.....someone raise the terror alert level at the Playboy Mansion  sarcastic .

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2755 times:

Quoting Slider (Reply 13):
Time you people learn about what a free society is all about....

i didn't know the world evolved around your ideologies. sarcastic ..



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2714 times:

Quoting Slider (Reply 13):
Time you people learn about what a free society is all about....

not being able to drink until 21 is not a free society  Wink  Smile  Smile



The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

Is there anything that the West does that doesn't piss of Muslims these days?

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 19):
i didn't know the world evolved around your ideologies. sarcastic ..

The world should revolve around freedom.


User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2677 times:

Quoting PROSA (Reply 4):
But seriously ... do any men under age 50 still get Playboy?)

Hmmmm

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 5):
I just like the Bar Jokes page



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 9):
If one is just sitting around I'll read it. The pictures are an added bonus.



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 9):
They are pretty funny.

Guess so...

GS



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

Quoting Beefstew25 (Reply 16):
don't look to the government to make my decisions for me, such as 'free' health care, which you may know about. How long does it take to get an MRI, like 3-4 weeks?

Wow dude you reading in another thread? This has absolutly nothing to do with the thread at hand....So i guss i gotta give you the benifit of the doubt that you replied to the wrong forum....Or maybe you hit your head this morning... wink 

GS



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
25 Slider : That's the great thing, Jacobin...as much as you meant that to be a shot on me, it's not. You see, these aren't MY ideologies...they are the time tes
26 Post contains images EWS : I say no more on this matter! Lew
27 Jacobin777 : subjective........ it wasn't.....your comment is very subjective...different people of different creed, race, religion have different views on religi
28 Post contains images Slider : I'm not saying mine is correct, but I'm not telling the Kalahari bushmen how to live!! They have resided in the same place without any technological
29 Fumanchewd : How dare Playboy treat women in a degrading and disrespectful manner. That's supposed to be the job of Moslem Indonesian men!
30 Babybus : Just out of interest, how exactly do Indonesian men treat women in a degrading and disrespectful manner? Cheers
31 Post contains links Fumanchewd : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4784784.stm It's similiar in almost all Indonesian countries. PS "Just out of interest" on a.net= condescendi
32 MDorBust : And what's to say that I should force mine on them or they their on mine instead of just letting us all have our own as long as they don't harm each
33 Babybus : I'm not sure that article demonstrates how women are treated badly. Just repeating the phrase "women are treated badly" in various ways is no evidence
34 FDXMECH : They force them to pose for Playboy.
35 777236ER : So is the idea that all Jewish, gay and gypsy people should be murdered. The views of the majority are by definition, correct. Consequently, freedom
36 Post contains images Jacobin777 : The United States government tells you how to live (laws)..correct? you can't drive 75mph...... *cough, cough, cough* even if you want to correct? yo
37 777236ER : If a law is passed by a democratic government banning the publication, so be it. Until then, it should be freely allowed on sale. I don't get what po
38 Jacobin777 : I don't disagree with you there.. once again....you mention "freedom".....from what? thinking? watching porn? smoking crack? walking nude? This isn't
39 777236ER : You're supporting the idea that Muslims leaders should impose their ideals on the population. This is surely fascism - people are told how to think (
40 Jacobin777 : wrong.... don't put words in my mouth.....and stop your rubbish canard...nowhere did I say the leaders should "impose their ideals" upon the populati
41 MDorBust : It isn't the law. Additionally, even if it were law, that doesn't mean it's right. Slavery used to be the law in the US. In order to be just, laws th
42 Post contains images Jacobin777 : hence my comment "if"...... there is a big difference between slavery and banning porn... once again, complete rubbish.....where did I say the govt.
43 Post contains images MDorBust : Slavery is the direct limitation of freedom of a subclass by another subclass. Muslims telling non-muslims they can't have a magazine is.... (finish
44 StudentFlyer : conservative... I know where you're coming from. But, You'd be surprised to know what the population (especially the youth) is actually doing! Believ
45 Gunsontheroof : The United States, Israel, Denmark, nude babes...certainly an increasingly interesting list of enemies.
46 Post contains images Jacobin777 : again, difference between slavery and banning porn.......its about choices and respecting the rule of the land.. this doesn't have anything to do wit
47 PIA777 : You know nothing about muslim men. PIA777
48 Gunsontheroof : Does it really warrant ridicule if it obviously wasn't ment to be brilliant?
49 PIA777 : If you think the muslims are the only ones upset at the US, you have another thing coming. Heard of Cuba and Korea?? PIA777
50 Post contains images StudentFlyer : Ironically, it is widely known that a "Dangdut" artist in Indonesia by the name of Rhoma Irama, who is actually one of the most influential cleric be
51 StudentFlyer : And the Red army..
52 StudentFlyer : Surely you don't know anything about Indonesia...
53 Jafa39 : Much as the constant rhetoric from "Angry of Islamabad" pisses me off, I do think they have a valid point this time, Playboy is "Forcing" display and
54 StudentFlyer : Of which it has been happening with the tamed versions. Hmm.. Wasn't it back in Iraq or Afghanistan after either Saddam or the Talibans were toppled
55 Post contains links 777236ER : Once again I am wrong? http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html 78% of the US popuation is Christian. And despite that, Christian re
56 Jacobin777 : an inane comment as yours warranted a sarcastic response..... StudentFlyer, don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you..."moral" corruptions is
57 777236ER : As is Indonesia! It's quite simple. The majority in the US are Christians, yet the democratically elected government speaks for the people, not relig
58 Post contains links Fumanchewd : Tell that to all of the Chinese women being raped in Indonesia. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/events/indonesia/special_report/118576.stm Next time you f
59 Post contains images Fumanchewd : That about sums it up to me. Yet, he will never stop.
60 L-188 : Yeah those interviews with Lorne Michaels where just riveting...... Comment was just a bit outside, He meant to insinuate that it was muslim men who
61 Fumanchewd : I know that most moslem countries don't do this and I wouldn't insinuate that all moslem men do. Typically, some on this forum refuse to believe that
62 Post contains images Jacobin777 : to which my comment was... I was thinking about the same thing..... yes..and you are missing the point completely...on top of that, you have yet to p
63 777236ER : Yet you say, Do you even know what point you're arguing any more? First you said that freedoms shouldn't be universal, then you seemed to imply that
64 Babybus : According to the article you supplied you should say "were raped" as this appears to be an isolated frenzy at a time of riots. We can talk about the
65 Post contains images StudentFlyer : yes, it only happened during the 98 riots. If you go back to Indonesia now, it's back to where it left off 8 years ago... My apologies. I know where
66 Fumanchewd : In a democratic society, the people speak with their purchases and ideas. I know that the concept is difficult for you, but try to think when you are
67 Fumanchewd : It is rare that I ask for deletion of comments, but you have warranted it with this piece. I always back up my statements with evidence, and when I a
68 Fumanchewd : Brilliant! I guess that its okay then.
69 MDorBust : If you are so intent on respecting the law of the land would you support a law in the US outlawing Islam? Certainly you wouldn't, and you wouldn't da
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