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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3118 times:
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I'm not sure, but right now it looks like it's going to be Giuliani or Romney for me, unless someone else really good comes along.

I don't really see anyone in the Democrat camp that I'd vote for (although that governor from Virginia may not be all that bad).


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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3112 times:

Um, can we at least get past the Mid-terms? This far out I really don't think you can say who the candidates will be. Who in March '02 would've seriously thought that Kerry would be the nominee.

I will say that Giuliani would interest me. Romney is an absolute no, as is the VA Gov.. Other than that, I'm actually trying to ignore the chatter for just a little while longer.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3112 times:

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Giuliani

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Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Romney

No! this man has done nothing for our state, tried to block gay marraige and overran the Big Waste of money for a tunnel that still leaks an causes me delays to BOS, oops I ment Big Dig... plus the fact that he thinks the state line is in worcester, not here in western mass....

And if Hilary becomes pres, im movin to canada....



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User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3107 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 2):
And if Hilary becomes pres, im movin to canada

I would too, although I'm already here.

But if Guiliani becomes pres, I'll move to the states.


User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3103 times:

At this point Im going to write in Mick E. Mousse. There will be a fresh batch of GOP folks in the hunt and hopefully some new Dems to go along with the usual crowd, Ill make up my mind when I find out who is actually running.

User currently offlineLentigomaligna From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3102 times:

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Giuliani

Perhaps, taking a lot of credit for being the mayor of a city that just got attacked though.

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Romney

As someone who lived in Salt Lake City in 2002: Oh dear God No! Not a chance in h-e-double hockey sticks (as he would say).


User currently offlineThepilot From Canada, joined Jan 2010, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3102 times:

I'll vote for someone who knows how to do the job and do it well, regardless of party affilation.


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User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3619 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3098 times:

At this point I will vote for whoever the Libertarian candidate will be.

It's too early to know.


User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4383 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3089 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 2):

And if Hilary becomes pres, im movin to canada....

 yawn  yawn  yawn 


Here we go again.

I've said it before and i'll say it again, anyone who seriously means that is a sorry excuse for an American.



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User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4275 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3089 times:

I'm going to write in Jim Hightower.

Texan



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

given that there are no announced candidates, why bother thinking about it?

User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Romney for me

Not a chance. The right wing religous wing nuts of the Republican party will not support a mormon.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 8):
I've said it before and i'll say it again, anyone who seriously means that is a sorry excuse for an American.

maybe not seriously but just enought that i looked for an apartment in YYZ  Wink But honestly, youd support that bat if she was our president. Mind you, I dont say that because she is a woman, I say that becuase she is an idiot...



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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

Joe Biden (D-DE).

He is the senior senator from Delaware, and his name has been mentioned a few times for the office. I really like what he has to say, and I plan to throw myself headlong into his campaign (on March 27 he announced his candidacy).

edit - correction

[Edited 2006-04-07 03:51:47]


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User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 1):
This far out I really don't think you can say who the candidates will be.

Remember Howard Dean?  silly 


User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4383 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 12):

maybe not seriously but just enought that i looked for an apartment in YYZ Wink But honestly, youd support that bat if she was our president. Mind you, I dont say that because she is a woman, I say that becuase she is an idiot...

Not ideally, but I said the same thing about the 'im leaving if Bush wins' folks.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

Even if it Hillery Clinton, I'll vote as I have since 1972 for the Democratic canidate! I am a die-hard, 'card carrying', registered and active member of the Democratic Party.

User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3050 times:

Let's just hope there's an America to be won. Bush is doing a great job of screwing this country over.

User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3044 times:

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 14):
Remember Howard Dean?

BINGO!



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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4383 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3044 times:

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 17):
Let's just hope there's an America to be won.

?



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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3038 times:
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Quoting Lentigomaligna (Reply 5):
Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Giuliani

Perhaps, taking a lot of credit for being the mayor of a city that just got attacked though.

What do you mean?

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 6):
I'll vote for someone who knows how to do the job and do it well, regardless of party affilation.

OK...well said. Any ideas who you'd vote for if it was tomorrow and the likely suspects were actually running?

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 7):
At this point I will vote for whoever the Libertarian candidate will be

It won't be Brown. Think you can get Boortz to run?

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 10):
given that there are no announced candidates, why bother thinking about it?

Because it's interesting and this will be the first horse race in a while with no clear candidate from either side dominating the picture. It's only a few months away from people gearing their pre-primary campaigns up.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
Even if it Hillery Clinton, I'll vote as I have since 1972 for the Democratic canidate! I am a die-hard, 'card carrying', registered and active member of the Democratic Party.

Dude, you can't even spell the womans name. Straight line party voting is part of the problem in today's political environment. Candidates that feel invulnerable are the ones who block progress and engage in the bitterest partisan fighting.

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 17):
Let's just hope there's an America to be won. Bush is doing a great job of screwing this country over.

A bit overdramatic.....you still pissed about Florida beating that ass?



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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3034 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 20):
A bit overdramatic.....you still pissed about Florida beating that ass?

No, pissed that Bush is driving this country into the ground at a pretty good clip.

With an approval rating like that...One that hasn't been seen in this country in a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time...he ought to be embarassed.


User currently offlineLentigomaligna From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 20):
What do you mean?

I mean, he's taking a lot of credit for being the mayor when 9/11 occurred without really having to do a whole lot. Whether or not he got rid of crime in New York is also debatable. I'm not saying Giuliani is a bad candidate, because in some ways I like him, but I think people have made him out to be something he's not.


User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3019 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 20):
Straight line party voting is part of the problem in today's political environment. Candidates that feel invulnerable are the ones who block progress and engage in the bitterest partisan fighting.

 checkmark 


User currently offlineMattCLE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3017 times:

Bill Richardson (D-New Mexico)  yes 

-Matt  Smile


25 Searpqx : Another bingo! Our founding fathers never envisioned the dual party system in place today, and would probably shudder at what its done to the governa
26 ArmitageShanks : Haha, what a trip that would be! There would be some interesting changes. I don't think the LP party like him very much though. I'm betting Michael B
27 TIA : I tend to agree with this. Even though he did do wonders for NYC, and the city owes a lot to him, I believe that he got more credit than he deserved
28 767Lover : Boortz would actually make an interesting candidate. He offers a little something for everyone: * He's pro-gay marriage * He's against eminent domain
29 Post contains images MKEdude : Romney isn't going anywhere in the Republican party. He ran as a moderate in '02 (the only way to win in Mass.) Then when he started to get a national
30 B6sea : Condoleeza! hahahah, probably Giuliani though -Chans
31 FlyguyAZ : As a democrat I say the best candidate this far out would be Evan Bayh (senator from Indiana). This guy was an incredibly popular governor in a very c
32 STLGph : The Democrats are digging up Kennedy and they're running him again! I'd like to see a Bayh/Clinton ticket or a Bayh/Warner ticket.
33 FlyguyAZ : I don't know much about Owens, but good lord don't let it be Brownback. The only difference between his religious zealotry and Bush's is that at leas
34 ZOTAN : I would vote for Obama, but its probably too early to run him. Maybe someone will pick him as their VP though.
35 Post contains images SFOMEX : McCain/Santorum
36 Post contains images JpetekYXMD80 : Seen his latest ramblings on Europe?
37 SFOMEX : No, what did he say?
38 STLGph : exactly. ten years from now ... different story. i'd really like to try the crack you are on.
39 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Great . . . . bail out instead sticking it out . . . . again . . . ridiculous comment. BIG I think the states ought to remove that option from the ba
40 Post contains links JpetekYXMD80 : Basically, 'Europe is dying'. http://www.airliners.net/discussions...ion/read.main/1169808/6/#ID1169808
41 Post contains links STLGph : what hasn't Santorum said? www.santorumexposed.com i love it!
42 MKEdude : It's too early for Obama, he needs more seasoning. Obama is going to be on a national ticket someday but not anytime soon. If you are Obama you don't
43 DesertJets : Mark Warner... no doubt about it. since leaving office he has been fairly visible on the national scene. Just that he hasn't caught the eye of nationa
44 Stirling : Isn't the question a little premature? And do the candidates really make any difference anyway? Saw a lecture from a well respected political scientis
45 B757300 : Boortz supports abortion without any restrictions. _______________________________________________________________ If I had to pick right now, it wou
46 Slider : Me too...or the Constitution Party, depends on who it is. Just be sure to proof Biden's campaign materials, if you know what I mean... I said 5 years
47 SFOMEX : I second that.
48 Post contains links Texan : I like Bill Richardson. I would probably vote for him if he ran. While Democrats have been throwing his name around as a candidate, he has frequently
49 AirxLiban : I voted for Nader in the last election and will do so again if he runs (doubt he will). I doubt such a person will be on the ballot.
50 Alberchico : For Governor Jeb Bush of course......
51 ME AVN FAN : A few questions about "existing" personalities : - Hillary Clinton : while it is obvious that she will NOT get votes from rightwingers, how popular is
52 Greyhound : Anyone thinking of writing themselves in? Maybe as Supreme Dictator?
53 Planespotting : Hey, come onnnnn...he cited the author of that quote in every other speech but that one, and it was only one of Dukakis's staff who eventually leaked
54 N1120A : And the funny thing about that is, mormons tend to be right win religious nuts. Anyway, I would really like to see John Edwards make another go of it
55 A332 : I can't vote in the US... However, I just hope someone with half a brain is re-instated into the White House.. I mean, Clinton wasn't a hero... but he
56 NIKV69 : You won't be moving, Paris Hilton has a better chance of winning the 08' election then Hillary. What a foolish statement, research his whole tenure a
57 Mir : I'm wary of Giuliani. He likes to take a lot of power into his own hands, and is ok with playing dirty. I like the fact that he's a northeast republic
58 ME AVN FAN : Well, she would be my favourite for the White House, possibly with Mr Ralph Nader as vice-president ![Edited 2006-04-08 16:37:38]
59 ME AVN FAN : Had a "deep" look into his biography and am impressed ! Looks like being highly qualified for the White House.
60 ME AVN FAN : A) most people in the world canNOT vote in the USA either, but are "governed" in a way by whomever the US-Americans put into the White House B) and a
61 DL021 : He seems fairly decent, and doesn't appear to be a power hungry psycho....although he is a politician and a democrat. Edwards does not appeal to the
62 Lentigomaligna : Not to nitpick (nevermind...I'm clearly trying to nitpick), but we don't even have that. I'm from a small state, so I get more of a vote than Califor
63 Post contains images Stirling : Cool how you slid in the "8 years"! And the candidate that talks of making the USA a partner with the nations of the world, instead of its watchdog..
64 NIKV69 : For the love of peter! Since when do we do whatever we want? We are a schoolyard bully? This is a smokescreen that terrorists use to justify their ac
65 Aleksandar : I've watched him many times on TV and he might be one of America's great presidents, but does Republicans want him as their candidate. Does he have a
66 BHMBAGLOCK : Rudy is very popular here in the south. Contrary to what you hear, most here are not hard core single issue voters. True there will be people trying
67 Dragon-wings : Last night on HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher one of his guests was Joe Biden (D-Delaware) and he said he was going to run for president.
68 J_Hallgren : I'll be voting for whatever Republican is the nominee...since my belief is that the worst Repub is still so much better than the best Dem...yes, I'm a
69 Texan : I like Biden, but he will be labeled as an extremist liberal Democrat who wants to wash the country down the tubes and hand it over to the terrorists
70 CastleIsland : Well, I can't vote right, and I can't vote left, and I can't bother voting for someone who can't win. I'm fucked. I guess I have to throw a dart just
71 N1120A : Yep, I think you may indeed have an issue He got elected in North Carolina, so he does have at least some appeal to the CR. Also, Edwards had a lot t
72 Gunsontheroof : Yes please! Someday...'08 is a little early. Should have been our man in '04. I'm still convinced he could have beat Bush. No. As far as Republicans
73 CastleIsland : We are, after all, entitled to our own opinions, but we have: * Terroists trying to eliminate us * Social Security that most of us have all paid into
74 MKEdude : True, most people are not single issue voters but we are talking about primaries here, and moderate voters do not drive primaries. If Rudy runs, and
75 Stirling : I guess I am a little bit more pessimissitic than you, because I see 9/11 in direct relation to our actions around the world. But hey, to all of you
76 Post contains images CastleIsland : So, what are the odds that you both vote democratic, or, for that matter, Libertarian?
77 Planespotting : If you will look closely at my post, I did not mention anything about the French, "pussy countries," saddam, oil, Bush, or any other thing that you s
78 767Lover : Well, I voted straight Democratic in 2004, if that answers your question. However, I don't do it "on purpose." I look at what each candidate offers.
79 RJpieces : The New York Times just had a big article about the possibility of him running. If he does run, he will not try to backtrack and change his position
80 L-188 : Actually I have heard from several people who served under him that he was pretty much worthless as a general....just like Monty or any of the dozen
81 Stirling : Don't get me wrong, I hope I didn't come across as condoning what happened on 9/11....nothing could be farther from the truth. What I am though is re
82 L-188 : Well I was thinking the same thing, but my grandmother was born in Regina, so it wouldn't really be bailing out would it?
83 Aa757first : It's early, but here are the issues that I expect to be most important to me in my first election. Most Important: abortion (pro-life) Important: gun
84 Mir : Because it would lose? Seriously, nominating Hillary would be the worst mistake that the Democrats could make. Hillary inspires absolute hatred among
85 Planespotting : Yes! thank you! She is way way way way wayyyy to devisive to be anything but a primary candidate -- she would serve a good purpose as a primary candi
86 LTU932 : If I was to vote for US president, my choice would be Hillary Rodham Clinton. I still hope she'll actually run in 2008. As for Republicans, the only R
87 N1120A : What the hell are all of you talking about? The most devisive person in the United States is that waste of oxygen living at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. ri
88 BNE : None of the choices. Oh thats right; I'm not American so can't vote.
89 RJpieces : Bill Frist has seen his reputation sink in the last year. His presidential ambitions are becoming more and more less likely.
90 Stirling : That may be true, but do the Democrats want to travel down the same road as the Republicans? I hope they think long and hard before making any such c
91 767Lover : Amen, brother!
92 ME AVN FAN : As all THIS will be, and increasingly become, a major political topic in the next 30 months, I have started to make a compilation for myself : - A com
93 Planespotting : I don't think Joe lacks charisma...he is just not well known at all to most of the people in the US. Think Bill Clinton before the Iowa caucuses... B
94 Stirling : George Allen Senator from Virginia. Rising star....my money is on him for the 2008 nomination.
95 DL021 : I'm not sure George Allen is running. He'll definitely be worth the consideration. He withdrew from the Senate campaign due to colon cancer. He has ev
96 MKEdude : Actually it was prostate cancer, and yes he is recovered.
97 Mir : Indeed. But my question was whether the democrats should bet the farm on somone like Frist not getting the nomination (I said "a Bill Frist" to mean
98 DL021 : Thanks, you are correct sir!....same general region, though.... either one sucks...... Do you think it's possible in todays environment for someone w
99 Daedaeg : It's my belief that the America is more conservative than it is liberal. Which is why a conservative candidate like Bush can win. Even Bill Clinton f
100 Searpqx : I think its possible, but highly unlikely, at least in this environment. What it takes is a willingness on both sides to stick to it, even if they ge
101 Dragon-wings : The problem I have with Rice is that she is part of the Bush administration. I don't think some current policies would change with her in office
102 N1120A : So what if the right becomes unglued? They became unglued a long time ago. They have made people like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell millionaires sp
103 Boeing7E7 : They all are, and they all will. Maybe we need a vote 'em all out of office day.
104 CastleIsland : My idea is to ALL STAY HOME on election day. Don't cast a single vote. Unfortunately, this would be harder to effect than getting everyone to vote. A
105 DeltaMD11 : As I recall myself stating a thread a few months ago on a topic that had a similar tone, I'm still pulling for Bayh/Warner ticket and have been for qu
106 Greyhound : I agree with that assessment. If Hillary won, as much as I may not like that, I was, am and always will be American. Canadian residency is not an opt
107 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : The Big Dig overruns took place long before Romney came on the scene. Blame Becthel/Parsons, the contractors, Freddie Salvucci (Dukakis' transportati
108 ME AVN FAN : well, ok, that looks bad for the man !
109 FSPilot747 : I'd vote for Hillary. Not that she'd get the nomination, though. But if she did, it would be great if she won. I'd love to see all the far right-win l
110 ME AVN FAN : Are there SO STRONG competitioners around ? hardly. I may be mistaken, true, but I think that if she decides to go ahead she will get the nomination.
111 FSPilot747 : She wouldn't pick Nader as a VP. That doesn't even make sense. In any case, I'd love to see Hillary get nominated, but the simple fact is, this count
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