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Why Do Americans Dress So Badly?  
User currently offlineYazoo From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 487 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 14295 times:

Being an American myself living in Europe, I noticed that in General Europeans dress much better than americans (even more so in France, Italy etc...). Generally speaking, We just are not that elegant when it comes to our way of dressing, Jeans and t-shirt seem to be the way to go back home (not to mention the sandals over Socks!!!).

feel free to add your thought as to Why do we lack elegance, which is quite shameful, seeing that we are the best in many other things.


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User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 14236 times:

Let's change around the topic and say why do Americans dress so poorly when travelling, not just in general.

I will agree, however, that Europeans do present a big idea of class and elegance when travelling, even if they are flying in the back of the plane, so to speak. Often times, I will see American's with cut down shrits, ripped jeans and sandals!

Just my $0.02 (CDN)

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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3288 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 14236 times:

Quoting Yazoo (Thread starter):
Generally speaking, We just are not that elegant when it comes to our way of dressing, Jeans and t-shirt seem to be the way to go back home (not to mention the sandals over Socks!!!).

Who are we trying to impress, and why does it really matter?

Signed,
This Proud American.



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User currently offlineN911YX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 14236 times:

Sounds to me like you've fallen into the Euro snobism that so many of in the States deplore. While I'll agree that cultural dress here in the US has taken a trend toward the casual, I believe it is a natural development of our freedom of choice. Socks and sandals would not be my choice but if some guy wants to look goofy so be it. Better socks than looking at nail fungus.

User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14147 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 3):
Who are we trying to impress, and why does it really matter?

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You beat me to it! Who cares? I've never had a job interview on an aircraft. I've never been told I couldn't board because I'm wearing blue jeans, or shorts. As long as I've paid for my seat, I seriously doubt the airline would care in the least. Also, shouldn't this thread be on non-Av?



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User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3007 posts, RR: 48
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14111 times:
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The way people dress in the US is one of the reasons I love that country so much. You don't really have to be a snob to walk around, and everyone minds his own business, which unfortunately isn't so in Europe. Too bad.

But this thread would definitely be better off in non-Av.

-Manuel



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14089 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 1):
Shouldn't this thread rather be in Non-Av?

I agree,

If you think Americans dress poorly, come and visit the big apple. Just because we don't wear red pants, or shoes with no socks don't matter. We give the world shows like "Queer eye for the straight guy".


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8416 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14089 times:
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Quoting Yazoo (Thread starter):
not to mention the sandals over Socks

If you see that here it screams "German tourist!"



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User currently offlineA380Heavy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14063 times:

Don't you poor old yanks go getting a complex - there are plenty of poorly dressed Europeans on this side of the pond!

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 3):
Who are we trying to impress, and why does it really matter?

Be careful you don't go getting that big head trapped in the doorway of the aircraft!!! Smile

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User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1596 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14031 times:

Yes non-av... but I tend to agree with the thread starter... but I think one of the biggest reasons is Hollywood and all this social promotion we have here in the states... you have these beautiful stars wearing skimpy clothes, at best... and then you have the average american girl that is 20 plus lbs overweight from eating too many twinkies but blames it one a thyroid problem.. decides to wear the same outfit... at the same time, we have their friends and family who feel sorry and say she is beautiful w/ her gut hanging. Even tho her friends are lying bastards.. so there you have it...

Europeans are much more honest about this. So that is why we think they are rude... I don't think so... Everyone should dress appropiately and accordingly.



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User currently offlineFutureSDPDcop From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1293 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14031 times:

If us Americans didn't have to work 40 + hour work weeks, we'd have more time to shop.

User currently offlineKLMflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13995 times:

My personal opinion, as an Italian living in NYC, is that there's a wide-spread lack of style and class in the USA as a consequence of the so-defined concept of being/feeling more free, casual-looking, more comfortable.
But you me be/feel more comfortable with style and with a good taste where you can match colours (yesterday I saw a girl wearing an unwearable light green and solid pink ultra-mini skirt with high-heels and a logo bag: probably she was thinking to be highly fashionable while in Europe may be youy can find someone like her at the corner of a street doing ..., and a guy with a solid orange suit - I skip the xxxxxxxlarge t-shirts, baggy pants, etc. that you can only see here in the US), use an appropriate look according to the moment of the day/activity and move/walk/speak with style, without talking/shaking hands like being in the middle of a parade!!!
Although I totally agree that someone has to be free to do whatever he/she wants, there's a solid principle to consider: respect the other, respect your neighbour.
I do not stand fellow passengers on a plane who are not dressed in an appropriate way, do have body odor, remove shoes, etc.
Something is being free and something else is not considering/respecting your neighbour passenger.
I had a American fellow seating next to me in c-class on a JFK-CDG flight, wearing a cut t-shirt and shorts, who removed shoes and socks as soon as he settled down in his seat, who started enjoying playing with his feet!!!
I called the flight attendant and asked to be moved to another seat!
He may decide to dress/act in that way because he paid the ticket ... but I paid my ticket as well!!!
Then, again, it's a question of style, class and respect and a lot of people, especially those who want to fly, should learn how to use them and apply them!


User currently offlineDba4U From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 657 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13967 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 7):
If you see that here it screams "German tourist!"

Hey! the typical German tourist isn't wearing sandals over socks, nor is he blocking deckchairs with towels! No way!  liar 


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8416 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 13957 times:
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Quoting Dba4U (Reply 12):
the typical German tourist isn't wearing sandals over socks

Oh they are here, go to Cape Town in December and you can tell who they are, I greet every one I see with Guten Morgen and they ALWAYS reply in German  Smile



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User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 13946 times:

Hey, when you're a nation full of fat lazy slobs who drive to the mailbox instead of walking you soon find out that you don't look that good in anything, so you might as well wear whatever happens to feel comfortable.  Big grin


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User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3554 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 13946 times:

I really don't like paying 100 dollars for a pair of matching designer jeans and shirt.

User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4845 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 13933 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 2):
Who are we trying to impress, and why does it really matter?

Signed,
This Proud American.



Quoting N911YX (Reply 3):
Sounds to me like you've fallen into the Euro snobism that so many of in the States deplore.



Quoting FutureSDPDcop (Reply 10):


If us Americans didn't have to work 40 + hour work weeks, we'd have more time to shop.



Quoting Andz (Reply 7):

If you see that here it screams "German tourist!"



Quoting Dba4U (Reply 12):

Hey! the typical German tourist isn't wearing sandals over socks, nor is he blocking deckchairs with towels! No way!

While I don't like to stereotype I have seen the deck chair and sock and sandals phenomena amongst German tourists in Camps Bay, Mombassa, Maldives, Phuket and Luxor amongst other places Big grin

YOWza



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User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 13886 times:

Quoting Yazoo (Thread starter):
(not to mention the sandals over Socks!!!).

Whenver I've seen somewhere wearing that here in the U.S., they were more often than not speaking in German to their travelling mates or discussing Star Trek. Big grin

If I'm going to spend the next 2-12 hours inside a plane, possibly wedged between two people, my last concern in the world will be what I'm wearing but rather how comfortable I can get. Some of your stuffy Euro clothes can be extremely uncomfortable despite being very classy.


User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13846 times:

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 15):
I really don't like paying 100 dollars for a pair of matching designer jeans and shirt.

You found designer jeans and a matching t-shirt for only $100? Sign me up.


User currently offlineNordair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13836 times:

I've never noticed that Americans in general dress badly. You'll find badly dressed people in every nation.

User currently offlineFutureUALpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13836 times:

I too, do not see the big deal. Just because I choose to wear shorts and a t-shirt around does not mean I do not care for myself, and does not mean I am lazy, or that I do not have ambition, etc. It just means that is what I am comfortable wearing. I see no reason to wear anything otherwise unless I have to. Same with traveling. Unless I am flying first class (which I have yet to do), I will wear whatever I want to, or dress for the weather at my destination.

My personal favorites, however, are the "Hollister" or Abercrombie and Fitch" characters who wear shirts that are "trendy" and say things like La Jolla, or Carlsbad or something (all places from my home town of San diego, CA) and yet they have no idea where or what those places are....they just think it sounds cool, or looks good.



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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13836 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 2):
Who are we trying to impress, and why does it really matter?

Absolutely. When I go to court, it is shirt and tie time. When I meet with a client it's a blazer, denim shirt, and jeans.

For the rest of it. Who gives a rat's ass, particularly in Iowa? We do not stand on ceremony and style is nowhere near as important as substance and what you can do.

There was a person who dressed with style here one time a few years ago. He was shot.


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User currently offlinePositiveETCO2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13817 times:

We will not apologize for our lack of taste until European men apologize to us for the visual assault of mini-brief swim bottoms.
America


User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3007 posts, RR: 48
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13776 times:
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Quoting FutureUALpilot (Reply 23):
Just because I choose to wear shorts and a t-shirt around does not mean I do not care for myself, and does not mean I am lazy, or that I do not have ambition, etc. It just means that is what I am comfortable wearing.



Quoting FutureUALpilot (Reply 23):
Unless I am flying first class (which I have yet to do), I will wear whatever I want to, or dress for the weather at my destination.

Huh? Does first class have a dress code?

Quoting PositiveETCO2 (Reply 25):
We will not apologize for our lack of taste until European men apologize to us for the visual assault of mini-brief swim bottoms

100% agree!

-Manuel

[Edited 2006-04-16 19:21:01]


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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3460 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 13762 times:

Why do stores like Holister, AE and Abercrombie sell RIPPED/WORN clothing for expensive prices and people still buy it? I can go get a pair of $15 jeans and rip/wear them out myself.


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25 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : Americans love their athletic shoes (trainers). They wear them for everything everywhere. And, invarably, they wear ankle-high white cotton socks unde
26 Psa53 : I suppose deregulation of the '70's changed dress attitude. And then there were PSA's "Midnight Flyers". In a recent airline magazine, it talk about
27 Post contains images SDLSimme : I think that you should dress according to the situation you are in. For example, if you are at someone's party and most people are nicely dressed in
28 Rolfen : They just dress different, casual. It's cool.
29 EmiratesA345 : I don't even think its about spending big bucks to look good. In fact I think a lot of people with poor sense of style wear designer clothes, mismatc
30 FDXMECH : I'll even go one step farther. I walk around with my zipper undone 90% of the time. It's not a trend thing though, I usually just forget.
31 Air380 : Currently you have a hard time finding designer jeans that are not ripped - fashion trend! The more ripped, the more expensive. There is certainly a f
32 Post contains images BA757 : The Italian & French, more so the Italians, often look ridiculous in some of the designer clothes they wear. Some of the sunglasses they were all yea
33 JBirdAV8r : FWIU yes, generally...either spoken or unspoken, ESPECIALLY for employees and their friends/family flying non-rev.
34 YOWza : I once flew first class on EK between MLE and DXB in bermuda shorts and a wife beater and the FAs didn't care. The tubby Arab guy behind me and an ol
35 JBirdAV8r : Were you a paying customer though? I doubt it'd matter all that much if you were.
36 FutureUALpilot : Not that I am aware of, but if I am flying first, I would probably want to wear at least a collared shirt and khakis since it is a little nicer and s
37 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Long live Sports Authority and Finish Line. Signed, USA + Me
38 TWISTEDWHISPER : Well said. Oh, those again... I haven't seen them yet (in real life), and I've been living in Europe for 25 of my 30 years... According to this threa
39 Post contains images Saxdiva : Let's not get into this... being from Southern California, I can report that we get our share of Japanese tourists, and they're not always fashion pl
40 STLGph : Dear Fellow Selected Few Fashionable Americans! I generally do agree that Europeans, are more often than not, much better in overall appearance than
41 Post contains images ManuCH : I can't speak for non-revs as I don't have a job that would allow me to non-rev. But as a paying full-fare customer, I probably wouldn't dress-up for
42 NoUFO : I guess it all boils down to personally feeling comfortable. Clothes should fit to your personality so to speak, although I do wish some people (not
43 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Must disagree with you here mate. No wrongdoing in going to class in a jersey in high school or college...who cares. But who in their right mind wear
44 AA777 : Americans... they just dont care to present anything very elegant or classy when traveling. They are all about functionalism....if its useful, it does
45 YOWza : Got a free upgrade from business as I knew the country manager. YOWza
46 NoUFO : School: ok, but high school or University? I wouldn't do it, as it appears to be so unfavourable. Same goes for shorts btw. In my opinion, adult male
47 PSA727 : I think the main difference between European and American dress is the lack of individuality on the American side. Who wears this? : polo knit short-s
48 FDXMECH : We have an even older saying. "You become who you eat".
49 Post contains images Komododx : I think the question that should be asked is who the hell came up with the idea for velvet tracksuits? Ewwwwwwww! Stefano
50 YeahitsK : I don't waste my time and money chasing down all the latest fashions because I really have bigger things to worry about. I'm more worried about the pe
51 WellHung : It doesn't take too much time or money to look nice, but the problem is, as with other facets of life, many Americans are lazy. They would rather sit
52 LOT767-300ER : Sorry but your crazy dude. I go to school in Daytona Beach, Florida. Do you know what temperatures I see here everyday. 30C+. You expect me to wear j
53 Tsaord : Well at least for me I am not trying to impress not one person with my appearance! I dont think i was put on earth to please other people! Now I will
54 PSA727 : No, maybe I didn't state it that well... Most of my clothes are from Europe, meaning they were bought there. In fact, when I go back within the next
55 Tsaord : Why is it that "Americans" dress badly?? I have seen some people come in off of BA, JL, AF, IB, LH, PIA, MX who were non Americans and they were dress
56 Post contains images MD11Engineer : Sorry, but, unless I'm in a very relaxed enviroment (e.g. rural Philippines), at home or out on the beach (or my girlfriend puts pressure on me ), ev
57 Post contains images YeahitsK : You wouldn't be confusing "shorts" with these would you?
58 Post contains images Confuscius : Why Do Americans Dress So Badly? You decide...
59 MD11Engineer : Don't laugh, but as a boy I had to wear those too on my mother's insistence (like most boys of my age back then). Lederhosen are virtually indestructa
60 STLGph : Only $100 for designer jeans? Where?
61 AsstChiefMark : How did you know that's what I where? Seriously! Mark
62 JBirdAV8r : To me that counts as fare-paying, so I'm sure they didn't particularly care what you were wearing. Generally non-paying employees/family/friends have
63 LOT767-300ER : Little boys clothes? Thats strange. It is not like that in Poland or the USA. One wears shorts when its warm, and pants when its cold or when in a mo
64 ManuCH : Same here. Unless you have a business meeting or you work in a store where there's a dress code. But for the rest, you see plenty people walking arou
65 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Of course mate, as noted in my post. I work in a electronics retailer and we cant we of course wear company shorts + khakis. You can only wear shorts
66 NoUFO : You should really read a thread before contributing to it. I think exactly like Jan: It would be unthinkable for me to wear shorts in public (except
67 Post contains images Saxdiva : Oh, just admit it... you have knobby knees, don't you?
68 Post contains images NoUFO : Haha, no no, you'd like them ... no worries.
69 NKP S2 : I agree 100 percent. In summer if it's really hot on my back patio/yard, or at a beach ( places where I'm barefooted and usually shirtless ) but I wo
70 Post contains images Mir : Agreed. I went looking for some jeans the other day, and half the ones I saw were pre-faded or pre-worn out with holes, and about $60 per pair. I rea
71 Soylentgreen : I agree, we are lazy in the dress department, but if you've ever flown Finnair out of Moscow, you'd know that there is a horror far worse than the Ame
72 MD11Engineer : Jogging suits worn with slippers, plus heavy gloden necklaces for the guys... or totally tarted up women with fishnet stockings, 4 inch stilettos, ul
73 AirPacific747 : you'd be extremely lucky to find designer jeans for 100$ lol! I just paid 150$ for a pair of Marlboro jeans.
74 Andz : Ah... Kaiserstrasse... I remember it well!
75 Post contains images SKYSERVICE_330 : So apparently both of you enjoy the feeling of having your sack stuck to the side of your leg on a hot summers day ..sorry I couldn't resist. No wond
76 AA777 : Usually $15 dollar shorts/jeans that you wear out yourself end up looking much worse for the whole lifetime of the piece of clothing than the 60 doll
77 AsstChiefMark : Jeans from a tobacco company? Do you wear them with a smoking jacket? Mark
78 Mham001 : I've read that the average European is just about as large as the average American. After 2 months on a Phuket beach recently, I believe it. When I l
79 Falcon84 : Which you did, by starting this thread in the first place.
80 NoUFO : He didn't.
81 LOT767-300ER : Guys, Filenes Basement or Nordstrom Rack or Dillards in the south sell Nautica, Kenneth Cole, DKNY jeans for $29.99-$44.99. Stop buying jeans @ Nords
82 BA757 : Thats rubbish. Food may be cheaper in Italy (sometimes) but it certainly doesn't offset the price of clothes here. Adam
83 Falcon84 : Yes he did. Just read the title of the thread. Sounds like stereotyping to me.
84 MD11Engineer : The thread wasn't started by YOWza, but by Yazoo, who btw claims that he is an American living abroad. Jan
85 YeahitsK : Yazoo started the thread but you are accusing YOWza of stereotyping by starting the thread when he in fact did not. I can see why you would make such
86 STLGph : yuck!!!
87 YOWza : I'm no sure what you're talking about... just to be clear YOWza != Yazoo unless of course I'm so devious and cunning that I have two accounts. YOWza
88 Elton : Walk into any mall in middle America, and you'll find an assortment of sweat pants, sweat shirts, and hair curlers.....on people too lazy to walk....t
89 Post contains images AirPacific747 : lol right, and I wear them when I am riding on my horse in the prairie in my backyard
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