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Palestinian Suicide Bomber Kills 6 In Tel Aviv  
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3220 times:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1849932

Will it never stop?  Yeah sure


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3210 times:

This oughta help too:

Iran pledges $50 million to Palestinians

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/04/16/mideast/index.html

The United States, European Union and Israel call Hamas a terrorist organization and have cut direct funding to the Hamas-led government that assumed power March 30, although humanitarian aid can be donated through non-governmental organizations.

Hamas has refused to recognize the Jewish state's right to exist


User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

This was carried out by Jihad Islamia and Fatah Al Aqsa Brigades...
Hamas has the over all responsibility though.

Hamas have to react, but they are propably just too busy working on their newest Qassam missile

EDIT: Sonnen 26 minutes have passed, yet you have not condemned this act of terror! *wink*

Boaz.

[Edited 2006-04-17 14:24:05]

[Edited 2006-04-17 14:25:01]


"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5712 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

I think the EU should immediately dispatch its chief foreign affairs appeaser Javier Solana  Wink

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3191 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Iran pledges $50 million to Palestinians

Nice to see Iran promoting peace as always  Yeah sure  Wink
 duck 



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3171 times:

Wouldn't it be nice to wake up one morning and discover that Israel and Palestine had 'talked it over' (preferably over a drink or two) and decided to put their differences behind them? Shame it doesn't seem to be likely.  Sad

User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3166 times:

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 5):
Wouldn't it be nice to wake up one morning and discover that Israel and Palestine had 'talked it over' (preferably over a drink or two) and decided to put their differences behind them? Shame it doesn't seem to be likely. Sad

Boy that would make my day.


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3161 times:

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 5):
Wouldn't it be nice to wake up one morning and discover that Israel and Palestine had 'talked it over' (preferably over a drink or two) and decided to put their differences behind them? Shame it doesn't seem to be likely.

That will happen just as soon as every country in the world has stopped supporting the Palestinian government. I don't know of many countries that have officially cut ties with them, I know Canada has and I was damn happy to hear it. If Hamas is considered a terrorist organization, then the funding will stop, the people would hopefully revolt against the government and maybe, just maybe someday, the two countries would get along.

I don't see a way to stop the suicide bombing or Hamas unless they are totally bankrupt and left destitute.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Iran pledges $50 million to Palestinians

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/04/16/mideast/index.html

The United States, European Union and Israel call Hamas a terrorist organization and have cut direct funding to the Hamas-led government

The cut of the E.U. in fact strenthened the influence of Tehran. The only counter-balance is Russia which apparently is to fill the gap left by the E.U. . My views about Hamas to a good deal admittedly coincide with those of the E.U., the cut however nevertheless is a definite mistake as it strenthens the influence of Tehran and Riyadh.


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

Hamas need to distance themselves from these acts, not condone them! While withholding funding from the authority is not a positive step, calling terrorism self defence isnt either.

Hamas as a ruling body wont go away because funding is withdrawn, they managed to get by very well for decades with illicit funding and they can pass any bad feeling from the public onto the people withholding the funding. Irans donation is a stabalising act, despite what many people think to the contrary.

Palestine needs to denounce random acts of violence, but they shouldnt be forced to denounce all violence because its their entitlement to maintain a military. The same with recognising Israel - thats their perogative one way or the other, after all lots of countries arent recognised as legitimate.


User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3134 times:

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 5):

I have that wish my self  Smile

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 8):

The EU still pays the same amount to the Palestinians, they are just channeling them around Hamas.

Boaz.



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

To everyone on this thread saying cutting funding to Hamas is good because they are a terrorist organisation, let me remind you of the ANC and South Africa - they were a terrorist organisation prior to apartide, and they took power to create a much better South Africa. You cant get much worse in Palestine controlled territories today so maybe Hamas can do the same.

User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 11):
You cant get much worse in Palestine controlled territories today so maybe Hamas can do the same.

Hopefully, but for the time being, when suicide bombers are killing the people of Israel with disturbing frequency, I'm still in favor of cutting off funding.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 11):
To everyone on this thread saying cutting funding to Hamas is good because they are a terrorist organisation, let me remind you of the ANC and South Africa - they were a terrorist organisation prior to apartide, and they took power to create a much better South Africa. You cant get much worse in Palestine controlled territories today so maybe Hamas can do the same.

Dream on. Hamas is what it is-a terrorist group. They won't change, and they won't condemn this crap.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3108 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 13):
Dream on. Hamas is what it is-a terrorist group.

How very true...they have one goal, and one goal only, and that is to push Israel into the sea.

I just don't believe that there is any room for compromise with Hamas.


User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

Here we go.................  sorry 

User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3086 times:

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 12):
Hopefully, but for the time being, when suicide bombers are killing the people of Israel with disturbing frequency, I'm still in favor of cutting off funding.

Israeli deaths since 2000 - 478
Palestinian deaths since 2000 - 3,808 including over 600 children (to Feb 2005)

Im not exactly willing to give Israel an easy run. You dont pacify a population by ensuring your response to terrorism is to kill 7.5 times as many in retaliation.

Sources:
BBC News
Palestinian Red Cross Society


User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3085 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 11):

I admire your optimism, but South Africa and Hamas.. Whoa jumping to conclusions!

EU is not cutting the financial support for the Palestinian people, they are refusing to support a terrorist organization, which I think is a matter of principle and moral.
Hamas have a Qassam program, and are the ones who blew up the first civilian bus.

Mr. Abbas him self called todays attack a terrorist attack while Hamas called it an act of self defense...

Boaz.



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 16):

I have just read your last post, and I am quite intrigued, as to how you can connect the first statement you made, and then this death score?!

This is a matter of national security for the Israelis, and a matter of liberation from an occupation for the Palestinians.

How and what are you justifying with this "score board"?!

It is besides the point and very immoral of you.

Boaz.



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3066 times:

Quoting Windshear (Reply 18):
I have just read your last post, and I am quite intrigued, as to how you can connect the first statement you made, and then this death score?!

Its quite easy - its not a black and white situation, thats how I can make both the posts I have made.

Hamas needs to back away from violence, indeed all Palestinians do - its not constructive for the future they want. But at the same time Israel needs to stop thinking the only way to make it cease is to carry out the military strikes it does against patently civilian installations, causing massive loss of life.

With Israels current plan of action, they create more misfeeling with each strike than they solve, its not a war of attrition because theres no end to the tunnel that way, terrorist groups can continue so long as one person is alive.

And it wasnt a scoreboard, it was a discussion point - the Palistinians have suffered nearly 8 times the losses the Israelis have and their resolve is still not broken. If you feel its immoral to highlight both sides losses when usually one of those sides is ignored as 'required' due to them being terrorists, then you need to reevaluate.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 9):
Hamas need to distance themselves from these acts, not condone them!

agree absolutely ! as soon as they come to their senses and common sense and recognize the existence of the Israeli state and the agreements already in force and are ready for serious negotiations with the Israelis, I am ready to act as an "apologist" for them. But their present position simply is sh...... !

Quoting Windshear (Reply 10):
The EU still pays the same amount to the Palestinians, they are just channeling them around Hamas.

for the time being as FAR around them as possible might indeed be most recommendable


User currently offlineAvi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 943 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3044 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 16):
Israeli deaths since 2000 - 478

Unbelievable, what a huge lie. Since Sep 2000 1,095 people were murdered here in a Palestinian terror attacks, over double your (or the BBC) number (and less than 100 since Sep 04 so this is not the source of the "mistake"). This is a simple lie.

Do you know that over 70% of the dead in Israel are civilians?
Do you know that over 70% of the dead Palestinians were terrorist, killed when they attacked Israel / Israelis or killed in preventing operations?

Nice to see you (you or the BBC) counts all the suicide bombers and other terrorists as innocent people and at the same time cutting the numbers of their victims. Disgusting.




The number of the murdered today raised to 8 and this is the worse attack in 20 months.



Long live the B747
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3038 times:

Well now the IDF will be allowed to bomb the shit out of Hamas, right?

User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3038 times:

Quoting Avi (Reply 21):
Unbelievable, what a huge lie. Since Sep 2000 1,095 people were murdered here in a Palestinian terror attacks, over double your (or the BBC) number (and less than 100 since Sep 04 so this is not the source of the "mistake"). This is a simple lie.

Id like sources on that, but if its true then the BBC are drastically wrong and its not often they are that wrong.

Quoting Avi (Reply 21):
Do you know that over 70% of the dead in Israel are civilians?
Do you know that over 70% of the dead Palestinians were terrorist, killed when they attacked Israel / Israelis or killed in preventing operations?

Who compiles those percentages?


User currently offlineAvi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 943 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3034 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 22):
Well now the IDF will be allowed to bomb the shit out of Hamas, right?

I doubt it.

Quoting Avi (Reply 21):
The number of the murdered today raised to 8

Correction: 9



Long live the B747
25 MD11Engineer : Hamas has a main goal, which is also aimed against many Palaestinians: The conversion of the Palaestine territories into an Islamic theocracy. This is
26 Post contains links KSYR : Bullshit. Number of Israelis killed from 27 September 2000 to 1 January 2005 (over a year ago) was 1,010 (source: www.ict.org.il). That number is cer
27 NeilYYZ : Canada did it, why shouldn't other countries. And it's not often that Canada will take such a drastic stance right out of the starting gates. I think
28 RJpieces : My Congressman has been calling for that (as well as to Egypt and Saudi Arabia, some allies) for years now...
29 Post contains links Avi : 1. I have a list of my own. 2. You can visit the Israel Ministry Of Foreign Affairs web site and start counting. 3. Some other websites in Israel tha
30 Windshear : True... But IDF and the Intelligence finds it necessary, whilst weighing in the loss of "sympathy" or PR value contra what is gained, in terms of liv
31 Tbar220 : You falsly quoted the article, that is why so many people are mad at you. From the BBC article you posted... *** History of attacks The first Palesti
32 Post contains images Windshear : I had a dog and his name was: BINGO I think numbers are cold. I commented Richard because I read his post, as if it was saying that numbers made it a
33 L410Turbolet : Distancing themselves from something they initiated/authorized would be kinda schizophrenic, wouldn't it? It's definitely a positive thing and I'm qu
34 RichardPrice : No I didnt falsly quote anything, take a look at the box to the right about halfway down: Both my figures above are since 2000 so they are both, acco
35 11Bravo : The Palestinians are really just hopeless. Here we have a society that has suicide bombing as one of the foundations of its political and social cultu
36 Marco : The problem is not just with the Palestinian leadership, but with the Arab street. Only when the Arab street rejects violence and explosive reproducti
37 ME AVN FAN : THAT in fact is the MAIN problem about that organisation. An Islamic backward restrictive theocracy in spite of regarding Hamas as an ugly thing, a r
38 RJpieces : Can't wait for the usual group of A.netters to claim that this isn't true.
39 ME AVN FAN : that already IS the case, and has been so for quite some time, so what ?
40 MD11Engineer : After the quotes from the Hamas leadership (self defense, my @rse) I suspect that they are soon to meet their makers via Israeli sniper bullets or roc
41 Post contains images Windshear : You said it! Boaz.
42 ME AVN FAN : - well, what I am surprised about is that those Hamas folks ignore the simple fact that they are within a 20minute-reach of the Israeli army. I am ju
43 Windshear : Many of the great Hamas leaders, are safe and sound in Damascus my friend... Boaz.
44 Post contains links TACAA320 : http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/04/17/telaviv.blast/index.html "A suicide bombing that killed nine people Monday at an Israeli restaurant provoked
45 MD11Engineer : I think the new Israeli government wanted to give them a period of grace, so that Hamas could prove if they were interested in a realistic peace or i
46 L410Turbolet : How disastrous, or rather disastrous for whom? If it is disastrous for Palestinians, well tough sh*t they should've thought about that before electin
47 Solarix : Looks like an official act of war to me. Israel should respond.
48 Tbar220 : Look closely at the header for that box, it is "Suicide Bombing Facts".
49 Post contains images Bofredrik : The palestinians elected Hamas. They wanted a new leadership and i support them. They are occupied buy a agreesive state, Israel, and like for exmple
50 MD11Engineer : If I remember correctly, you are gay. Well, go to Hamas ruled land and try to enjoy your freedom as a gay man. It will be short. Jan
51 Post contains images L410Turbolet : Great to see you're supporting terrorists. BTW, posting your "pearls of wisdom" only once would be more than enough...
52 Tbar220 : Question: Does that include blowing up innocent Israeli civilians?
53 Post contains images Windshear : Spoken like at true left winged Scandinavian... Well here is a little love letter to the grand mufti of Jerusalem from 1943, in form of a telegram: "
54 Marco : Bofredrik, Unfortunately you fall under that category of self-righteous Europeans I was talking about. Do not take this as an insult. However, in orde
55 Post contains images Windshear : {insert applause} Apologetic and naive that is what this European "activism" is, nothing more nothing less. Boaz.
56 Marco : Also, in defence of the Palestinians: the outcome of the elections was not surprising. Their choice was: religious fundos who at least helped the poor
57 Marco : Very naive my friend. But at the same time it scares me. People are ready to point fingers without any background knowledge ... maybe it's due to prej
58 Marco : I just thought I would add one thing. If Bofredrik is gay ... and supports Hamas, this is all a big joke. Trying living under religious fundamentalist
59 Windshear : It is very scary, I have heard things in this forum and others and of course IRL, that I cannot relate to any historical event. It is all beefed up e
60 Falcon84 : Friends, it's pointless to argue with the incredibly blind terrorism apologists like BoFredrick. They have been reeled in, hook line and sinker, by th
61 AndesSMF : Amen, brother, amen.
62 Jetset25j : Then fight the IDF and not civilians who can't fight back. No one, where ever they are, who ever they are, has the right to take it out on civilians
63 Post contains images Solarix : Correct, they did. Nice to hear you support those who blow up innocent civilians. Palestine has rallys where they chant "death to Israel !! death to
64 Post contains links Cairo : Great definition, I can't wait to hear you change it or explain how it applies only to America's/Israel's "enemies" and not to America/Israel itself.
65 Falcon84 : If your referring to Iraq, the U.S. is not intentionally targeting civilians-that's the differnt, partner. Hamas and those creeps do. It's their M/O.
66 Cairo : No, I am capable of honest self review of myself, my country and its allies. I don't have an agenda, I look at the facts and then draw conclusions. H
67 AndesSMF : Palestine has never been a country, therefore it was never a country that was taken away from them. So since these people targeted what they wanted (
68 Cairo : Whatever. I don't really give a shxx. I only want the US out of the area entirely and the end of all US foreign aid to the region, including to Egypt
69 Falcon84 : Bullshit. The elected leadership of the Palestinians, who have ALWAYS had, as their platform the destruction of Israel, have decided to wage terror a
70 Post contains images Falcon84 : I wouldn't have a problem with that if the Arab world would decide to live with Israel in peace, declare the end of hostilities, and work to better A
71 KSYR : Not a chance. A suicide bomber is more accurate than the most precise American missile. He knew that he was killing civilians. He could have easily w
72 11Bravo : See, that's the problem here with your support of these hideous people. In addition to the fact that it's morally indefensible, the continued attacks
73 TACAA320 : Have you ever been to Palestine or Israel? Why do you consider Israel as an "aggressive" State?
74 Post contains links and images ANCFlyer : Well, here's no surprise. . . . The Hamas defends this act of terrorism . . . http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/04/17/telaviv.blast/index.html Now,
75 NeilYYZ : I admire the restraint that Israel shows, they could just end it all with their military rather quickly, but they choose not too. Israel is dealing w
76 Cairo : Then much of World War 2 and Vietnam as fought by the Americans was terrorism, by your definition. As the president says the doctrine during that war
77 QR332 : I'm not getting involved in this, something just really stick out and need to be put in line. Just like the US promotes peace with the billions it giv
78 Gkirk : QR332, I and many other Scots would like to see Scotland become independent again in the future, but you don't see us strapping explosives to ourselv
79 Marco : of this will only end one way: a billion angry Muslims against a few million in Israel...hmmm The situation is actually like this now. And yet Israel
80 KSYR : Conveniently choosing not to reply to my post, Cairo? I'll say it again- If the Palestinians can target civilians, they have the capability to target
81 RJpieces : What a fancy way of masking your anti-semitism, by suggesting that Jews are responsible for America's woes...Nice jab. NYC Congressmen? There are onl
82 Falcon84 : Again-ISRAEL IS NOT GOING AWAY. IT'S THERE! The problem with the Arab world is they refuse to deal with that fact. They're not going to emmigrate to
83 Post contains images Windshear : Must be all that quality non-US journalism, doing its charm Somehow I am beginning to understand, why you have chosen to reside in the country where
84 NeilYYZ : That was quite underhanded wasn't it! Yes, it would be just as easy to kill the soilders at a checkpoint or something, but that dosen't put fear, and
85 ME AVN FAN : they are tolerated in Damascus, but have their bases in Tehran and Riyadh and their support and instructions coming from THOSE two countries exactly
86 Falcon84 : Never said thing were black and white. Nothing is in that region. Yes, Egypt and Jordan have made peace with Israel. But Hosni Mubarak still keep a M
87 L410Turbolet : You said it. SAME PEOPLE, same terrorists. Using your example back in the 1930s/1950s support was supposed to be given to German Nazi/Czech Communist
88 Windshear : First off, I would like to thank you for your most respectful and insightful calm in this thread! Secondly. Syria houses major terrorist training cam
89 Cairo : Great, get a job with Hamas and start telling them how to fight the war. My point is that it is their war, not America's and America should get out.
90 MD11Engineer : Maybe the best way for the Israelis would be to take out the Hamas leadership using Special Forces, with as little damage to the civilian population a
91 RJpieces : Might I remind you that Hamas/Palestinian terrorism has killed many an American lives over the years. HAHA, you expect to be taken seriously in the U
92 Falcon84 : Uh huh. While Hamas gets funding and probably more from Iran? Right. We're not going anywhere with our aid and support for Israel, buddy, until "the
93 Post contains links and images Windshear : How can you push this onto Israel?? These Al Qaeda bastards, as I presume you also loath, how can Israel be responsible for what the before mentioned
94 Jacobin777 : comparing the situation of the Scots and Palestinians is not even remotely close....its a bit insulting actually... the parts of occupied territories
95 Cairo : Precisely my objective. If you're so worried about practicality, I'd suggest they can have a 5 year ramp-down period from living off the American tax
96 Falcon84 : Well, you're going to hear it, because it's true. Arafat had a golden opportunity to build a framework for a Palestinian state, most likely with Isra
97 Marco : the Israeli government blatantly violates human rights, as well as countless united nations resolutions........... Pakistan probably violates more hum
98 Post contains images Gkirk : Ye fancy coming to Glasgow and saying that? I see you have an American flag next to yer name, so I'm gonna guess yer American, therefore I'll let you
99 Post contains images Solarix : So Israel doesn't have a right but the Palestinians can do it with no problem...right? Not a word said condeming the terrorist blowing up innocent pe
100 Post contains links Cairo : The impressive success of Israel in obtaining billions of dollars from every American's paycheck is the success of their misinformation campaign. The
101 Mir : I've got no problem with that. And you know that that means something coming from me. I was willing to give them that as well, seeing as there was li
102 Cairo : I don't normally respond to posts aimed at a person instead of the topic at hand, but this is easy since it's exactly my philosophy: The US should en
103 Falcon84 : Jesus, Mary and Joseph. I wasn't talking about U.S. funding; I was talking about Syrian, Iranian, Saudi-whatever funding to the Palestinians. Should
104 Cairo : Yes, another American with an irrational love for the US military and its purely motivated techniques. The claim that not targeting Civilians justifie
105 Post contains links and images Jacobin777 : "most likely" what proof do you have of that? In fact, to the contrary there is some proof that both sides were at fault http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
106 Falcon84 : If you're talking about me, dude, as usual you have it all wrong. I'm an American-and Americans don't support terrorist scum the way you do. You dish
107 Post contains links Marco : Here's proof of their discrimination: http://www.kashmiri-pandit.org/elibr...cles/plightofhindusinpakistan.html Proof of their decline is in the parag
108 Post contains images Jacobin777 : so basically to you, either I agree with your misguided views or I'm some kind of "terrorist sympathizer" and don't deserve to have the US Flag handl
109 Falcon84 : I'm labling you a terrorist sympathizer based on the views you put on here. And, no, you don't deserve to have the U.S. flag by your name if your sup
110 Jacobin777 : you're entitled to an opinion which doesn't bother me all..if you feel the need to call me a "scumbag supporter", so be it..... at the end of the day
111 Marco : my criticism is at the the Jewish Government But my friend, this Jewish government allows the Israeli Arabs (the ones who chose to stay) to live and f
112 Cairo : The person who is most dangerous to America is the person who tells those who don't agree with him to leave, not fly the flag, or stay out of his cou
113 Falcon84 : No, the person who is the most dangerous is the one who supports scumbag terrorism, even after spending time in somewhere like the United States, has
114 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Marco, I think we're at an impasse because we'll both be finding lots of correct information which will counter each other (I can find information wh
115 KSYR : Please tell me that you aren't ignorant enough as to actually believe this mindless drivel...
116 RJpieces : I don't think he was telling you what you can and can not do, but rather meant that he can't understand (nor can I) how any person who identifies as
117 Post contains links and images Jacobin777 : Should I even bother responding to such an inane comment? "Nah" he says with a sarcastic tone.. the fact he responeded to my comments a couple of tim
118 Marco : Marco, I think we're at an impasse because we'll both be finding lots of correct information which will counter each other (I can find information whi
119 Post contains images Mir : So Hamas can intentionally kill as many innocent people as they want and it's all ok with you so long as they dont exceed the number that America has
120 Marco : During the whole Danish Cartoon incident, I saw scores upon scores of American A.netters sporting the Denmark flag handle ....was it wrong of them to
121 Marco : Jacob, Honestly despite our disagreements, I still believe you are a reasonable guy. I can still admit that. However, I want you to notice one thing.
122 Cairo : Username: Mir Location: New York, Username: RJpieces Location: New York City Username: KSYR Location: North Carolina (formerly and soon to be NY) Hmmm
123 Mir : I just might do that. But if you're of the opinion that such a sojourn will make me think that Hamas is a friendly hugable teddy bear instead of a te
124 Cairo : Great, good. I'm happy to encourage a national debate on US Israeli policy. I really hope you will get out and hear, for instance, what the dominant
125 Jetset25j : The kettle is hot. You touch it. You get burnt. You cry and scream injustice. You touch it again. You get burnt again. You scream injustice again. Th
126 KSYR : Sorry, but I'm not from NY. I lived there for 4 years, but have also lived in Europe and *gasp* an Arab country, Egypt!
127 RJpieces : A tad different showing solidarity with a democracy under fire for a week and permanently having the flag of an authoritarian regime. LOL, this is on
128 Mir : It is US policy not to accept such groups. Thus, the US will remain heavily involved in Israel until the terrorism is gone. The way things are going
129 Post contains images Jacobin777 : given the ratio of Arabs/Muslims to Jews in the world, I bet you'll fine the same ratio of extremists on both sides.....because the world Jewish popu
130 Cairo : Mir, your profile says you are young, but you are able to discuss this matter without personal attacks, which makes you the minority on this board - i
131 ME AVN FAN : and what is the argument about his ? I at home, right above the "foot-end" of my bed, have a map of the Arab World hanging, and well, Israel is "miss
132 AndesSMF : Then you are not getting a good view of the news out there, I have seen both. And this thread indicates the same, since it looks like an even split b
133 L410Turbolet : My impression from reading your posts that you care what's best for Hamas & Co. My friend, you speak like the "cream" of the leftist EU politicians.
134 ME AVN FAN : this might have made sense had he health-wise still been in a position to keep matters under control while not only was this no longer the case but f
135 ME AVN FAN : Russia will take use of the fact that it now has become the lifeline for both Iranians and Palestinians in finding ways to get matters in the Caucasu
136 Mir : This isn't like Iraq. The US isn't the only one who wants Hamas out. Every major Western power is dissatisfied with Hamas. You misunderstand me. I do
137 Vafi88 : Ciaro said in reply 68 " Whatever. I don't really give a shxx. I only want the US out of the area entirely and the end of all US foreign aid to the re
138 L410Turbolet : This description certainly would be accurate in the mid-1990s, before they accepted ideologic assistance from their brothers in faith and learned bar
139 AndesSMF : Found this interesting situation that occurred with Japan prior to WWII. It should shed some light on the current situation. "Japan in the 1930s was
140 Cairo : Sure, some moderates argue that US policy IS, as you say, about creating stability and that helping moderate states like Egypt, Jordan and Turkey are
141 RJpieces : If there is ever a nuclear explosion over Israel, you might want to move out of Cairo, Cairo....
142 Cairo : Well, it turns out you are capable of talking on this thread or to me without name calling, hysterics, insults, etc... which means I can answer you f
143 AndesSMF : For Gods sake man!! Whatever you call it it is still a nuclear weapon!! You have left me absolutely speechless with your remarks. I am not even gonna
144 Cairo : I think you missed my point or I didn't explain something well enough, but, you're quite right to be angry that it is in fact nuclear destruction tha
145 Post contains images L410Turbolet : Signed, Neville Chamberlain Inevitable??? Oh, wait I forgot Muslims are pissed off therefore it is inevitable and excusable whatever they do.
146 Windshear : Supporting views and words like these, will only ensure that this conflict will go on for decades, I suggest you try and deal with your hatred toward
147 ME AVN FAN : I do NOT believe that US help to countries like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Yemen is in any way "deadly" or "dangerous" to
148 Marco : No USA in the Middle East = No Terrorism Against America What a big, scary and naive assumption.
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