Pelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2530 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1241 times:
Of course it will affect tourism. I guess it also depends on the death toll among western tourists.
I for myself wouldn't feel safe in Egypt anymore, but then I'm probably over anxious.
pelican
And of course - may all the victims rest in peace!
Prebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6039 posts, RR: 55 Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1221 times:
At least Danish tourism will not be affected. It used to be an extremely popular tourist site, but the Mohamed cartoons put it on a complete standstill.
In case some tour operators had plans to start again next year or in a few years time, then those plans were shelved tonight.
Sadly this is only the last of a long string of attacks on tourist sites in Egypt during the last 20 years.
Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
ABfemme From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1207 times:
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 2): Sadly this is only the last of a long string of attacks on tourist sites in Egypt during the last 20 years.
Yes you are right. I had a fabulous holiday in Egypt some years ago and really feel for the ordinary Egyptian people who live with this. It is bound to affect tourism, let's hope they can rebuild. I too found them to be extremely hospitable and friendly.
it will NOT end it. Tourism in Egypt and other countries, even after heavy setbacks, recovered within one or two years. the "repetition-effect" this time may have a very bad effect, and means a setback exactly at a moment when the Egyptian tourist industry and civil aviation was moving up.
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 2): to start again next year or in a few years time
not cancelled but put aside for the moment. I hope that the cartoon-matter will no longer be a "problem" within a year, on both sides. So that marketing-efforts in Denmark will be re-started towards the end of this year.
Kaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 28 Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1181 times:
Quoting Pelican (Reply 1): I for myself wouldn't feel safe in Egypt anymore
I wouldnt feel safe there BEFORE the attack... I've never visited before, but my parents have and they said they wouldnt ever go again. In any country where you need an armed guard to sit on your coach and be escorted by a lead and tail car through the city from the harbour, you know its just not safe even at the best of times.
Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
CO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1171 times:
As much as i do hate to say this, but i think it will affect tourism!
I hope the egyptian authorities can do something to increase the security measures at resorts and tourists sites.
ME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13875 posts, RR: 27 Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1164 times:
Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 5): In any country where you need an armed guard to sit on your coach and be escorted by a lead and tail car through the city from the harbour,
the country you describe is NOT Egypt. I have been in both Cairo and Alexandria (and between them), and also along the Suez Canal with a hired (self-drive) motor-car in 2002 and 2003, and had no escort and no guard, and had absolutely no problem at all. The only problem is that aircraft-photography at Cairo-Airport is practically impossible.
Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 6): hope the egyptian authorities can do something to increase the security measures at resorts and tourists sites.
they HAVE done a lot in Egypt-mainland (Nile-Valley) but apparently did not yet enough on the Sinaï . I expect that this now will change.
MDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1157 times:
Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 5): In any country where you need an armed guard to sit on your coach and be escorted by a lead and tail car through the city from the harbour, you know its just not safe even at the best of times.
Psshhh..
I do the very same thing for certain clients in Dallas, Texas.
Not because it's neccessary, but because certain people have an opinion on what makes them safe. As long as they want to shell out money for it, who am I to argue.
The more sensible clients ride in a rather plain looking sedan.
The level of visable security usually has more to do with a persons credit rateing than the actual threat level of the environment.
Prebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6039 posts, RR: 55 Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1155 times:
Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 5): In any country where you need an armed guard to sit on your coach and be escorted by a lead and tail car through the city from the harbour, you know its just not safe even at the best of times.
This latest Dohab terror attack hit a soft target, mainly visited by individual travelers, to a large extent young people who are there for diving.
That may indicate that the armed guarding of every tourist 7x24 does indeed make organized tours "safer".
Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 4): I hope that the cartoon-matter will no longer be a "problem" within a year, on both sides. So that marketing-efforts in Denmark will be re-started towards the end of this year.
This attack comes nine months minus one day after the Sharm el Sheikh bombing which killed 88 people and wounded some 200. And on top of roughly fifty major or minor attacks during the last 20 years.
That may have been almost forgotten in many other countries, but not here. Since the cartoon event we Danes have been "bombed" with terror statistics. There won't be any money to earn by offering Egypt tours to Danes during the next decade. No money to earn = no tours.
Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
well, ok, looks as if you are in touch with VIPs --- canNOT compete
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 10): Since the cartoon event we Danes have been "bombed" with terror statistics. There won't be any money to earn by offering Egypt tours to Danes during the next decade. No money to earn = no tours.
I hope that this "bombardment" will recede sooner or later. And time will cure anger. And then there will again be money to be earned.
Windshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2309 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1116 times:
I have had armed guards baby sitting the aircraft during a stop over in Luxor on our way to Sharm... But that is mostly it...
After the Sharm bombings last year, our hotel in Hurghada inforced a tired security guard and 4 plastic cones at each entering point to the lobby
I think security needs to be improved, but I have heard that there are now check points near Nama bay, is that true?
I really hate for this to cost Egypt more money, but I do understand if people do not want to go.
Egyptians in Sinai especially are some of the most kind people I have ever met.
Boaz.
"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
Viper911 From Israel, joined Oct 2005, 241 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1110 times:
Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 5): I wouldnt feel safe there BEFORE the attack... I've never visited before, but my parents have and they said they wouldnt ever go again. In any country where you need an armed guard to sit on your coach and be escorted by a lead and tail car through the city from the harbour, you know its just not safe even at the best of times.
That's Israel man, Every tourist Bus is guarded by 2 Security guys with rifles, sometimes guns and other weapons. Plus buses are escorted in Some areas.
And yes those bombings will affect tourism in Egypt. I know many Israelis that afraid go to Egypt, the bombing in the hotel 2 years ago, now those bombings, constant threat In Israel, the average Israeli will go now to Eilat (ETH, Israel resort city) and not to Egypt even though Egypt border is 1 mile from Eilat (ETH) the Israelis feel safe there.
Since im russian, i know some things about my people, they just dont care about the dangers, when the bird flu was in Turkey the hotls were Full. (russian tourists). now they will continue to stay in egypt, they do this many years why 3 bombings will stop them?
Windshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2309 posts, RR: 11 Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1097 times:
Quoting Viper911 (Reply 13): ince im russian, i know some things about my people, they just dont care about the dangers, when the bird flu was in Turkey the hotls were Full.
Sounds some what like the image I have of Russians
I think you are right... Perhaps that is the best way to deal with this...
To go despite the dangers? Ignoring the issue away?
Boaz.
"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
Aeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 2958 posts, RR: 30 Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1097 times:
My cousin is the manager at a major Russian Tourist company KUDA.RU. She says that after the bombings many were hesitating to go, but most went anyway, as bombing can happen at any place at any time. Egypt is a major vacation destination for Russian tourists. So her tourist company wasn't affected much.
Prebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6039 posts, RR: 55 Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1087 times:
Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 11): I hope that this "bombardment" will recede sooner or later. And time will cure anger. And then there will again be money to be earned.
There is plenty of money to be earned here, more than ever before. Just not on Egypt tours. Substitutes are Canary Islands, Florida, Brazil and such. Especially to Canary Islands the tour operators have problems finding ways to match supply to demand, and prices have gone up.
The "bombardment" will end a long time after the terror attacks have ended. After the cartoon event the various terror attacks are covered much more extensively by the Danish press. Even minor events, which earlier passed unnoticed, hit the headline news, including things which probably often are no more than local drugs related crimes, things which may happen in Zürich and Copenhagen as well.
Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
Windshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2309 posts, RR: 11 Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1080 times:
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 17): Even minor events, which earlier passed unnoticed, hit the headline news, including things which probably often are no more than local drugs related crimes, things which may happen in Z�rich and Copenhagen as well.
Like what for example?
Boaz.
"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
ME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13875 posts, RR: 27 Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1052 times:
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 17): plenty of money to be earned here, more than ever before. Just not on Egypt tours
I DID speak of tours to Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt and Lebanone
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 17): things which may happen in Z�rich and Copenhagen as well.
THAT is an important point. We all know where something DID happen but NOT where something may happen next. I love to irk an old schoolfriend who grew up in Zurich and lives near Lucerne, that I could NOT guarantee that something thelike does NOT occur in either city. I hope it never does, but who can tell .....
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