Adam T. From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 957 posts, RR: 6 Posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1335 times:
Well, i'm currently a junior in college and have made the decision that when I graduate next year i'm going off to Grad School to major in Higher Education Administration/Student Affairs. I've been looking at some various programs and schools and have narrowed it down to the following Grad Schools:
University of Georgia in Athens, GA
Clemson University in Clemson, SC
University of South Carolina in Columbia, SC
N.C. State University in Raleigh, NC
Old Dominion University in Norfolk, VA
University of Virginia in Charlottesville, VA
University of Maryland at College Park in College Park, Maryland
I've done enough research on the programs and have decided to try and visit most if not all of them. I'm looking for opinions on the schools and cities they are located in. Basically any opinions you have are welcome as long as they are mature ones If you live in one of the above cities and don't have much info on the universities, that's fine, i'd still like to hear what you have to say about the cities.
AA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2541 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1328 times:
UMD College Park-
I went there for one semester, my brother graduated from there, and my sister went there for two years. I personally did not like it, as college park is in a sort of sketchy part of Maryland / suburbs of Washington. Access to Washington D.C. is easy by car or by metro-rail. The campus is enormous- absolutely enormous. The programs are all good and well respected, so you will definitely have a pretty good name on your Diploma once you graduate. My problem with UMD is that...
-It lacks the "refined" nature that smaller universities tend to have
-It is SO big (but this is good in terms of Football and Basketball, if you're into that)
-College Park is neither very pretty nor very safe.
-The food choices in and around college park is rather limited (esp. if you are a food snob like me. If you dont mind eating whatever, you will be just fine.)
Okay, so maybe that was a very harsh overview of UMD. It wasnt for me. I highly suggest that you see for yourself because it will help you get a feel for things.... here are some positive things:
=Some people absolutely love UMD. One good thing is that the campus population is so big that there will surely be a place for you- even if you have a very specific 'niche'. I was able to find a great group of fellow students of Arab descent who I identified and made friends with easily. The campus itself is very pretty, and maintained pretty well. The price, compared to private schools, is unbeatable- and even with out of state tuition, is not that bad. I go to George Washington Univ., and the differenecs are too many to name... Again, I highly suggest you check it out for yourself. You may find that you like the people (most of whom are nice, normal people...nothing terribly bad or great about them) and the big-school environment. Many people do like it.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8867 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1324 times:
I've been to the Clemson and UVa campuses in the past year or so for sporting events, but spent some time in both towns. Both towns basically revolve around the university - UVa is about 2 hours from Washington, Clemson is about an hour from Greenville/Spartanburg and 2 hours (maybe?) from Columbia and Charlotte, so there aren't a lot of major cities close by. Personally, I preferred UVa's campus - I thought the whole downtown area was incredibly nice, although I did think Clemson's campus was a lot more beautiful.
Just my .02 though...my advice is choose the best fit for you...what appeals to me might not appeal to you in any form.
DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7737 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1320 times:
Adam... while I am not in student affairs I am in higher education. My Master's is in Education Policy from the University of Virginia... class of 2004.
Email me and give me an idea of what you are looking to do. I can more easily address stuff that way.
but let me give you my 2 cents worth on Charlottesville and UVA. Personally I love C-ville. It is a great little town (not really all that little). It is easy to get around and has good transit around grounds and throughout most of Charlottesville proper. Which was very good since I didn't have a car for the year and a half I was there. UVA has the best looking campus anywhere, save maybe Princeton, IMHO. Plus the history and tradition are very rich there and very much alive. It really is a big school (~21,000 on grounds) that feels small.
The town itself is very liveable and the cost of living is reasonable, with a wide range of rents and properties available close to grounds.
University of Maryland is one of those places that I have tried to like, but never really could. College Park/Adelphi isn't the nicest of places in metro DC and I've never been a big fan of the campus. Though Maryland is a good school.
Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
Garnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5327 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1315 times:
Hey Adam, I can provide perspective on two of those schools - University of South Carolina and NC State since I received my B.A. from USC and am receiving my Masters from NC State. I can only speak generally about the HESA programs at both schools, but both are pretty good. Going into information about both schools
University of South Carolina
USC is one of the two flagship schools of South Carolina, the other being Clemson. USC is located in downtown Columbia, SC. While the campus is downtown, it doesn't really have an "urban" feel. Case in point - the Horseshoe, which is the original USC campus, dating back to 1801.
While being a big school in terms of enrollment (over 27,000) the campus has a small feel and it's possible to walk from one end to another in 20-30 minutes, or rather the main portion of campus. South campus (everything below Wheat St, which is mostly athletic facilities, a few residence halls, and engineering) is another story.
Lots of graduate assistantships in various fields - I'm not sure where you're looking at going, but if you're wanting to do Housing, USC has a wide variety of residence hall types, including Preston Residential College (where I lived for 3 years), health and wellness communities, "interest" communities (pre-med, engineering, etc), and types of halls.
Columbia itself is a medium-sized city - the main gripe is there's stuff to do but not a LOT to do. The centers of student life are Five Points (located Southeast of campus) and the Vista (slightly more upscale, located West of campus). Columbia's got a minor league hockey team, the Columbia Inferno, and that's it sportswise. Culturally, Columbia is home to the South Carolina Philharmonic and the University of South Carolina Symphony (both of which are excellent orchestras), two ballet companies, and three theatre companies. Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia is consistently rated one of the top zoos in the nation. Lake Murray, about 20 minutes from campus is a great spot to relax. Columbia's also in the middle of the state and you're no more than 1.5 hours from the mountains or the beach. Cost of living is VERY reasonable and the area around USC's campus has lots of rental opportunities. On-campus housing for graduate students, unless you're doing Housing, sucks and is limited to Cliff Garden Apartments which is in that south portion of campus.
Lastly, aviation-wise, CAE is about 10-15 minutes from campus and is served by DL, UA, US, NW, AA, and CO.
North Carolina State University
NCSU is one of North Carolina's two flagship universities, the other being UNC. It's located on the Western edge of downtown Raleigh, although not downtown itself. Again, parts can be urban, parts can be really pretty like the Court of North Carolina
It's enrollment isn't as big as USC's (22,000 for NC State) but campus is big enough that you're going to want to get acquainted with the Wolfline busses. There's a good amount of on-campus parking for grad students, and the Coliseum Deck is in easy walking distance of where most of the HESA classes are. My only complaint about campus itself is that it's split roughly in half by train tracks. There are a series of 3 pedestrian tunnels which connect the two halves of campus, so you sometimes have to go a little out of your way to get to a tunnel.
Again, lots of graduate assistantships, lots of varieties in Housing if that's your bag. My only warning (and this is from personal experience) is that if you come here, start the process to become a NC resident IMMEDIATELY because it takes a year waiting period after you've done the requisite steps. I say this because any assistantship you have can be terminated after a single year if you maintain out of state residency.
Raleigh is a larger city than Columbia, especially when added in with Durham and Chapel Hill, both of which are about a half hour west of Raleigh. Both are also home to major colleges (Duke and UNC, respectively), so the community is very "college friendly." Hillsborough Street, which fronts NC State's campus, has lots of coffee shops and restaurants, and a few bars. Sportswise, Raleigh is home to the NHL's Carolina Hurricanes (who usually have ticket discounts for students) and there are tow minor league baseball teams within half an hour's drive - the Durham Bulls and Carolina Mudcats. Culturally, Raleigh is very diverse and there are a wide variety of concerts and events going on at any point in time. The North Carolina Museum of Art, for instance, has an outdoor theatre that they do movies and concerts at, lots of clubs nearby that see all sorts of talent, and the RBC Center and the Walnut Creek Ampitheatre see lots of major national acts. My gripe about Raleigh is its distance from stuff - 2 hours from the beach, 5 hours from the mountains.
Again, reasonable cost of living, though higher than Columbia and with higher taxes. Lots of rental opportunities, but NC State has great graduate on-campus housing, especially the new Wolf Village apartments which are for sophomore older than 20, juniors, seniors, and grad students. Each apartment comes fully furnished (washer/dryer, kitchenette, fridge, stove, oven, microwave). You share the apartment with 3 other students - each have single rooms and you share a bathroom with one other person. If you want to live alone, there's also Western Manor (a bit off campus, but still on a Wolfline route), which is open to grad students and students with families. They come unfurnished and you also have to pay monthly rent (as opposed to semesterly housing costs) and pay for your own cable and internet.
Lastly, aviation-wise, RDU is about 15 minutes from campus and is served by FL, WN, B6 (starting in July), CO, DL, NW, AA, US, UA, and AC.
That's the rundown - if there's anything more specific you'd like to know about either place, feel free to ask in thread or e-mail me
South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
Adam T. From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 957 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1285 times:
Thanks everyone for your opinions. I guess I should have mentioned that i'm a NC resident and currently earning my Bachelors degree at Appalachian. I'll probably e-mail a couple of you privately once exams are over next week.