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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 49
Posted (8 years 5 months 23 hours ago) and read 1972 times:
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Well I know where my GAY dollars are going to go on my next visit to the local Grocery Store.

KRAFT: THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU...APPARENTLY NOT.

Kraft Foods held it's annual stockholder's meeting today. As you may recall, Kraft and its stockholders haves been the target of a "massive" effort by Evangelicals to force the global food company to withdraw its financial and promotional support for the upcoming Gay Games. Kraft put the proposal forth for a decision by stockholder. It was rejected receiving less than 1% of the vote. So much for the power of the Evangelical version of Christ.

I'm having Kraft Mac & Cheese for dinner!


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 23 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Good to see one corporation won't stand to be bullied by these small minded people.

User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 23 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

Way to go Kraft. Now if the rest of corporate america...hell America in General would stand up to the christian taliban like they did.

GS



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 23 hours ago) and read 1927 times:
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Quoting Greasespot (Reply 4):
Way to go Kraft. Now if the rest of corporate america...hell America in General would stand up to the christian taliban like they did.

GS

Best description EVER!



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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 22 hours ago) and read 1916 times:

Yahoo KRAFT! I'm not a big Mac 'n Cheese fan but I'll double up on the sharp cheddar next time I'm at the store.

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 4):
America in General would stand up to the christian taliban like they did.

I'm hoping that the fear mongering that the far right has used to stir their faithful has seen its day. I'm sure there are some more state battles we're going to lose before it gets better, but on the corporate level, the tide seems to be shifting back.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 22 hours ago) and read 1915 times:
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I think it is ironic that the box is clearly labeled "Family Size" Just glad to see they are speaking of "MY" family. HA!


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User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 8):
It's my impression that many who might have signed on to such an action are unaware of just how many Kraft products they probably use on a daily basis.

Let me see if I understand your point. If the only brand I used from your list was Stove Top Stuffing, and I decided that I could go to a competitor for a similar product ... then the boycott would be okay?

Are you suggesting that if these people were aware at the scope of Kraft products in their daily lives, then there wouldn't be a boycott? That they'd accept the company supporting these dirty 'homasexshalls'?

Does that also mean that the religious right should focus their boycotting efforts on small stores and lesser known brands?

I say let these "christian taliban" groups boycott EVERYTHING. That store clerk at Wal-Mart may have been a lesbian ... Boycott Walmart (all of them!!!!) I bet that bank teller has thought about being with other men ... Better close all your accounts (and there might be more of them at the other banks too!!!! OH MY GOD a homo DROVE on this STREET!!! I better not leave the house!

This is gotten so rediculous! Who's letting these people have a microphone? Wouldn't it just be easier to move to a planned community near some bayou and name it "Smug Island" or "Righteous Bay" or "Judgement Pass"?

These "Christian Taliban" groups are no different that the wack-jobs that were responsible for the Salem Witch Trials; the slave traders; Senator McCarthy and his anti-communist manifesto that had thousands of innocent peoples' lives destroyed.

These people draw obscene conclusions from badly interpreted passages of the Bible and call them FACTS. Then, they terrorize ANYONE who challenges their ignorance.

I just don't get it.
Can't they find hobbies or something?

G

Edit:
(Hmmm. I just made reply #6, but quoted reply #8 in my post, which is now gone. Deleted posts so early in the thread? This could get exciting!!).

[Edited 2006-04-27 04:20:38]

User currently offlineFrontiercpt From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1840 times:

Haha, Luv2fly, you KNEW that I would open up the non-av forum and dive at this thread didn't you? Well it totally worked, cuz all I saw was "HOMOSEXUAL" and I was in lol. And you totally let me down! It wasn't a self-pics thread, or a hot-guys thread, or anything like that! *smack!* psht! Big grin

~Sean


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 2):
christian taliban



Quoting Canuckpaxguy (Reply 6):
Wouldn't it just be easier to move to a planned community near some bayou and name it "Smug Island" or "Righteous Bay" or "Judgement Pass"?

Nice to see tolerance on the other side.  no  I shouldn't even bother trying to agree on any point.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20647 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

Mmmmm! Krafty!


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User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 8):
Nice to see tolerance on the other side. no

Fair point! You're right. I got carried away. Please continue.
G


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26501 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 8):
Nice to see tolerance on the other side. I shouldn't even bother trying to agree on any point.

That is because the points you make are firmly based in intolerance.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 49
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1813 times:
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Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
That is because the points you make are firmly based in intolerance.

Agree. Funny when the right does it, they are doing it for the good of all of us, when we challenge them we are being intolerant!



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20647 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

Hmm, I think I'll e-mail buyblue.org about this.

http://www.buyblue.org/node/2913/view/summary



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User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
That is because the points you make are firmly based in intolerance.

You may be right Alireza, but Redngold did have a point when she quoted one of my sentences. It was intolerant also, and not condusive to having a fair discussion.

Redngold - Not to single you out, but if you could help me understand something, I would find it helpful. These Religious Righteous people who parade the streets openly advertising their hatred for homosexuals ... What are they afraid of? Why do they care if man or woman is gay? Do they think gay people are hurting someone?

If it's because "it's morally wrong" or "it goes against God", my question still stands: So what? Why do you care what people you don't even know do? What gives the Religious Right the authority to tell the rest of the world what is morally right or wrong?

G

[Edited 2006-04-27 04:47:18]

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1769 times:
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Quoting Canuckpaxguy (Reply 14):
If it's because "it's morally wrong" or "it goes against God", my question still stands: So what? Why do you care what people you don't even know do? What gives the Religious Right the authority to tell the rest of the world what is morally right or wrong?

I would like to know the answer as well.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20647 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 15):
I would like to know the answer as well.

When's the 700 Club on? Maybe Pat Robertson could explain it all to us.  duck 



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 49
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 1753 times:
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Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 16):
When's the 700 Club on? Maybe Pat Robertson could explain it all to us

Maybe Mr. Baker or Mr. Swagert



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User currently offlineLfutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3339 posts, RR: 27
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 1736 times:

funny you mention Kraft Foods, my mom was fired from Kraft yesterday. it takes alot of stress off of her back though as she wasnt liking her job one bit at Kraft thanks to the politics up in her level. anyways, she's gonna look for a job in the city...

Leo



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User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 1727 times:

I have plenty of tolerance. YOu do not see me trying to dis-assemble famlies...YOu do not see me trying to deny human rights to a specific group.
You do not see me trying to ram my views down EVERYONE"S throats....

I have never said you could not be christian..unlike the christian right, I know they neve said people could not be homosexual...but they have said go ahead but you will get NO rights....

..I just do not want you to try and force me to believe the same things you do....Nor do I want any part of YOUR religion in my Gov't....

GS

Note: being canadian when i mean my gov't i mean canadian...



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 49
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 1715 times:
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Quoting Greasespot (Reply 19):
I have plenty of tolerance. YOu do not see me trying to dis-assemble famlies...YOu do not see me trying to deny human rights to a specific group.
You do not see me trying to ram my views down EVERYONE"S throats....

I have never said you could not be christian..unlike the christian right, I know they neve said people could not be homosexual...but they have said go ahead but you will get NO rights....

..I just do not want you to try and force me to believe the same things you do....Nor do I want any part of YOUR religion in my Gov't....

GS

Well said and I feel the same here in the States.

Note: being canadian when i mean my gov't i mean canadian...



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26501 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 19):
Note: being canadian when i mean my gov't i mean canadian...

Well, the good thing for you is that King Ralph is going away.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 16):
When's the 700 Club on?

That show gives me the willys



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20647 posts, RR: 62
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 1698 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 16):When's the 700 Club on?

That show gives me the willys

:: read twice ::

 rotfl  Was that a spiff from a donation, and how do I sign up for one?



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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6593 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 1681 times:
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Quoting Redngold (Reply 8):
Nice to see tolerance on the other side. I shouldn't even bother trying to agree on any point.

My favourite qoute on the subject:

"And finally, to Rob in Albany who felt my aside was proof of my intolerance and hypocrisy: Joking about Christianity isn't evidence that I'm intolerant—hell, I'm perfectly willing to tolerate Christians. I have never, for instance, attempted to prevent Christians from marrying each other, or tried to stop them from adopting children, or worked to make it illegal for them to hold certain jobs. I don't threaten to boycott companies that market their products to Christians, and I don't organize letter-writing campaigns to complain about Christian characters on television.

It would indeed be hypocritical for me to complain about fundamentalist Christians who've done all of the above to gay people if I turned around and did the same thing to Christians—but, again, I've done no such thing. Intolerant? Hell, I'm a model of tolerance! "

- Dan Savage
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/01/savagetolerance.php



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26501 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 22):
Was that a spiff from a donation, and how do I sign up for one?

 rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl 

Only in your dreams Westy.



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25 Jafa39 : I have to agree with you here, there isn't a lot of difference in ideologies between the two of them, oh I'll get flamed for that no doubt but the tr
26 MD-90 : So has spelling. It's "rIdiculuous."
27 Post contains images Searpqx : YOU BEAST - There are no such things as Gay Extremists, and if you ever spread such a filthy rumor again, I'll just call all my friends, and we'll th
28 Post contains images AeroWesty : Not to be confused with the extremely gay (not that I'm naming names, mind you).
29 Post contains images Jafa39 : I think I wet myself laughing!!!!
30 N1120A : Too bad your attempt to highlight the misspelling made it look just as bad.
31 Searpqx : Then our work here is done - courtesy of the extremely gay extremist of a.net! (Westy - you make one more crack like that - Ohhh - I'll give you such
32 Post contains images TedTAce : Red, how quickly you forget that the second you choose to MAKE others believe what you choose to, you BECOME AN OPRESSOR (just like the taliban). I h
33 Post contains images Doona : Cheers Mats
34 Post contains images Aloges : Now there's a problem... Kraft did something right, but they still belong to Altria which also owns Philip Morris; AFAIK Kraft was spun off of PM som
35 N1120A : Altria Group is Philip Morris, they changed the name of the holding company because of bad publicity. Kraft was spun off, but I believe Altria is sti
36 Greasespot : ralphie was not a rpart of the christian taliban....He was just a drunk..... Problem with the extreme right is when one leaves you never know if some
37 Post contains images N1120A : Labatt's or Molsen?
38 Post contains images Halls120 : Agree and disagree with the above. If the christian right tries to force me to believe in what they believe in, they are indeed an oppressor that I w
39 Satx : I'm already boycotting Kraft for not labeling products that contain genetically modified ingredients. Besides, most Kraft products taste artificial to
40 Nordair : You name it and he'll drink it. There is a joke going around that the source of funds for the Alberta Resource Rebate payments comes from Ralph turni
41 Post contains images N1120A :
42 Max999 : Interesting to note that Karft is owned by Phillip Morris, the tobacco company. Hasn't the tobacco industry traditionally allied itself with the Repub
43 Jaysit : The tobacco lobby in DC has allied itself with everyone in power.
44 SATX : Outside of 'boutique' industries like liberal media, organic foods and whatnot, haven't most industries allied themselves with the Republican Party w
45 Post contains links AeroWesty : Not all. http://www.buyblue.org/company/ranking/donations
46 SATX : That's certainly true, which is why I was careful to not say "all". I love it when the 'liberal media' simply says 'Corporation X contributed to both
47 AeroWesty : I don't quite understand. The link I gave quite clearly had a breakdown of dollars and percentage. Were you referring to something else?
48 Post contains links SATX : Yes, I was referring to domestic US television. For instance, in many reports after Enron failed the domestic television news merely stated that Enro
49 Post contains images AeroWesty : I see, so it was just a generalized, unsubstantiated rant you were making before. Thanks for clearing that up. Thought something with my link was fau
50 Dougloid : There's not much in the way of products that have anything to do with grain that do NOT contain GMOs. Anyway.....we've been hearing this for a long t
51 SATX : My view that the 'liberal press' is in fact not very liberal at all is open for you to challenge however you wish. People often get confused over wha
52 Post contains links SATX : Let me get this strait. You're suspicious of everyone except the one side actually making a buck off your purchase? How logical is that? I guess you
53 Post contains images Gunsontheroof : I like it. Good for Kraft. I'm sure the Gay community would have a lot of complaining to do if Kraft were to sponsor a Christian event...
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