747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3301 posts, RR: 2 Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4401 times:
I am currently station on a Nimitz class carrier and I wanted to know where we rank on sizewice among other ships. I know the Nimitz class aircraft carrier are the worlds largest war ships and until the late 90's was the second largest ships in the world. Time has change and passenger ships and container ships has begone to out size us. So what are the four biggest type of ships in the world. I think it is Tanker, Passengers Ships, container ships and US aircraft carriers meaning Nimitz class, Enterprise class, Kitty Hawk class and John F. Kennedy class, so is am I right.
PS: US aircraft carriers are still the widest ships in the world, well at least at the flight deck.
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8596 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4387 times:
Nice place to work... in ops or keeping the bloody thing alive?
I don't think you can classify ships like that; they're too custom-built to be classifiable. I think the four largest ships, tonnage wise, in the world would all have to be ULCCs (ultra large crude carriers). Other than that there are lots of specialised tankers such as chemicals tankers that are smaller in size but can still wreak bigger mayhem if they sink; so in a way, they count more.
Container ships have grown to mega-size as well, but then again there are feeders carrying containers from smaller ports to the big ones such as Hamburg or Singapore.
The USS Nimitz is small change compared to ULCCs that can easily reach three or four times its displacement - but when you consider her range, the Nimitz is second to (almost) none.
Ships are a highly diverse and very fascinating field, much less classifiable than aircraft. For every task you can imagine in the world, there's a ship - such as animal carriers built for the purpose of transporting sheep from New Zealand to the Persian Gulf.
Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
Wikipedia says the Freedom of the Seas has a tonnage of 158,000 compared to a displacement of up to 104,000 tons for the Nimitz... I don't think the tons used are the same though, the Nimitz is probably still larger.
Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11445 posts, RR: 77
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4337 times:
Quoting BA747YYZ (Reply 3): Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
I know the Nimitz class aircraft carrier are the worlds largest war ships and until the late 90's was the second largest ships in the world.
Aren't the Wasp class larger!
Wasp is 40k ton category, much smaller. Still the second largest aircraft carriers afloat (or 3rd depending on how you measure against the CDG).
Well, if you measure strength versus size then you'd have to say that the Nimitz is the baddest surface ship in history.
UH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4323 times:
Does anyone ever remember the Army floating the idea of basing AH-64 Apaches on naval anphib ships, such as the Wasp, when there were no suitable land bases? What ever happened with that? In fact, I remember playing a computer game based on the Apache where the missions flown over Yemen were based off of the USS Tarawa.
Back at Campbell, we practiced deck landings... a freakin' air deck painted on the tarmac -- real realistic
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29621 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4294 times:
Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 9): Does anyone ever remember the Army floating the idea of basing AH-64 Apaches on naval anphib ships, such as the Wasp, when there were no suitable land bases? What ever happened with that? In fact, I remember playing a computer game based on the Apache where the missions flown over Yemen were based off of the USS Tarawa.
Well when we invaded Afghanistan that is exactly what they did with the USS Constellation.
She left her birds in Japan and picked up Army Aviation...Mostly Blackhawks and Chinooks.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
BA747YYZ From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4290 times:
Quoting Aloges (Reply 4): Wikipedia says the Freedom of the Seas has a tonnage of 158,000 compared to a displacement of up to 104,000 tons for the Nimitz... I don't think the tons used are the same though, the Nimitz is probably still larger.
Well, that holds 4000 passengers, and a carrier has to hold 5000 people plus airplanes, etc...
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4227 times:
Quoting Stirling (Reply 14): I would have given that distinction to the USS Missouri.
While the Big Mo is certainly an impressive piece of armament - if you haven't crawled through her at Pearl you're missing a treat - she pales in comparison to the destructive power of a Nimitz class carrier . . .
One aircraft aboard Nimitz - an attack aircraft, not the COD - has an much firepower slung under the wings as a WW2 Destroyer . . . now if that ain't some serious whoopass, I don't know what is.
As for large passenger ships, Freedom of the Seas, recently launched is a behemoth at 158K tons. . . however, her owner company RCI (Royal Caribbean) has contracted with Aker Shipyard for a cruise ship to weigh in at a very impressive 220,000 tons. . . . to be delivered in the fall of 2009. That will be - if launched - the largest passenger or military vessel afloat in terms of persons aboard and weight. There are cargo ships that continue to surpass this newbuild however.
Quoting Stirling (Reply 14): Quoting DL021 (Reply 7):
you'd have to say that the Nimitz is the baddest surface ship in history
I would have given that distinction to the USS Missouri.
I'm not too far off from agreeing with you, at least as far as appearances go.
Until the USS Enterprise was built, the largest surface ship/carrier was the Shinano, a 68,059 ton Japanese aircraft carrier in WWII. It was due to be the third ship in the battleship Yamato class (Yamato and Musashi). Due to the demise of the Akagi, Kaga, Hiryu and Soryu at Midway, Japan was forced to speed up conversion of her to an aircraft carrier to help offset some of the loss. The Shinano was on her way to Kure to receive her air wing when the USS Archerfish torpedoed her to the bottom. The U.S. didn't even have knowledge of her existence until after the war when they were able to review Japanese military records. So until that time they only credited Archerfish's skipper with sinking a really big Maru. http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-fornv/japan/japsh-s/shinano.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_aircraft_carrier_Shinano http://www.combinedfleet.com/Shinano.htm Probably the better of these 3 sites
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 18): The Nimitz class, while VERY badass, cannot compare with the sheer destructive capacity of the Ohio-class ballistic-missile submarine.
IIRC, a stat I'd once heard is that a single Ohio class SSBN alone constitutes the third or fourth most powerful arsenal on the planet.
Consider the bomb dropped on Hiroshima had app. a 20 kiloton yield. Consider one warhead on one D-5 missile has an app. 450+ kiloton yield. As was the case on my last boat, USS Pennsylvania (SSBN-735)(Blue), you have the capability to carry up to 24 missiles. Due to START treaty limitations (and let me tell you those START inspections are a b@^!&*@(*&$!*) you don't even have the maximum of 10 the D5 was designed to carry. So on any given day, you may or may not have a sub patrolling Davy Jones' Locker with a combined firepower total of 10.8 MEGAtons of yield. The only boats that came close, and if I remember right, exceeded those numbers were the Typhoons and Delta IVs (not sure about Delta IIIs) of Russia/former USSR. The Typhoons only carried 20 weapons but their warheads were bigger. I couldn't tell you what their performance was like.
On my second patrol when I was on USS Ohio (SSBN [now SSGN] 726)(Gold) we did an FCET (Follow on Commander-In-Chiefs Evaluation Test) where we got to launch 4 dummy missiles. It was a rather unique experience since I was on a missile tube team. The force from one of those gas generators that pushes the bird out of the tube is so great that the submarine actually buckles in the middle. Imagine sitting in your seat bouncing up and down for about 5 seconds or so while the missile leaves the tube (and water fills its spot).
This picture below was taken after the Ohio's 50th deterrent patrol. I was onboard for the 61st, 63rd and 65th- and last- patrol (the first and finest's last and best.... we pulled into Pearl and I was given my silver dolphins on the Arizona Memorial). The little white image on the missile deck was the sailors spelling out 50.
747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3301 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4125 times:
Believe it or not when we passed by USS Kersage LHD 3 and it was sitting taller than us, but we was still much longer and wider so Wasp class could be taller. The reason the Nimitz class is so light for there size is because of that giant hanger bay. When I walk though my ship hanger bay feel like walking though a giant ware house.
Boeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4062 times:
This is all fantasy/wishlist stuff I'm about to say, but what I think would be neat is to recommision/build an Iowa class battleship, nuke powered that would serve as a "Naval Ambassador". Send it to "certain areas" and tell them that we have lolly pops and butt whoopin's on board, but we're fresh out of lolly pops.
: Anyone wanna tell me what the hell the point of this thing is?
: I would not be too happy in Fog on the upper deck appartments when a gulfsteam had a nav failure
: Like a gunboat you mean? Been there, done that.
: Who knows. That thing must be real slow. It makes it around the world once every 2 years. Imagine what will happen when a massive wave hits it. The p
: Used to see the VLCCs Stena Vision and the Stena Victory tied up at Hog Island, close abeam KPHL. At about 313000 deadweight tons they were pretty dam
: I don't know all the names of the largest ships, but I do know that we see all them here in Hamburg on a regular basis . The Freedom of the Seas was h
: Here's that answer. I saw this about a year ago . . . 18,000 living units, with prices in the range of $180,000 to $2.5 million, including a small nu
: Okay... screw living on a ship... screw vacationing on a ship of that size (no beaches, nowhere to stop, it's just steel on the ocean).. and screw lan
: Erm... as nice as it might seem, don't you realise they'd all be arguing with the captain where to take them for shoe shopping?
: Terrorism target. And how about the fastest of the big ships? Nimitz class, the Enterprise (once said to outrun an Akula ), SS United States...?
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: Is there any difference in the size of the US aircraft carriers? I have heard that USS Enterprise should be the biggest one. Is this true? Also, if tr
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: Add a bit to this the USS Archer-Fish (two words with hyphen) sinking of the Shinano was put out as a paperback called "SEA ASSAULT" although it had
: Which is still itself only a tiny fraction of the power of perhaps mankind's most utterly stupid, destructive, and, ummmm... kinda cool inventions- t
: AirPacific747 The USS Enterprise is larger but a Nimitz class is heaver. PS:The USS Enterprise was moorded right next to us and I did not see much siz
: I know as far as shipping Hapag-Lloyd's fleet is very impressive. http://www.hapag-lloyd.com/en/fleet/vessels.html
: thanks! I would love to go and see what it is like to be onboard that massive ship!
: All those ships may be big, but do they look as good as this one?
: Well I still haven't seen anything even approaching the three hundred and thirteen thousand tons of the VLCCs mentioned in reply #29. These are roughl