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I Got My First Rifle Last Week  
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

1893 Turkish Mauser, German (Obendorf) built. Haven't shot it yet, waiting for my 8mm (1970s Yugoslavian) to come in.

Check it out: http://www.antiquefirearms.org/turkspecial.htm

http://www.antiquefirearms.org/Turk-1.jpg

And how in the world did anyone ever actually use a bayonet? Mine's heavy as crap hanging all the way out there on the barrel.

[Edited 2006-05-07 21:14:33]

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User currently offlineAzza40 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

 scared  dont shoot me  scared 

Aaron  sly 



Not been on here for a good 2/3 years!
User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

Excellent choice. Mausers in general tend to be excellent shooting rifles, and about as durable a rifle as you can find.

Don't buy into that garbage on the website about, "Good backup hunting gun." Screw that, a practiced shooter can use a Mauser as a primary hunting weapon. 8mm SPBT's will drop anything from rabbits to large deer... although don't expect to be makeing soup from the rabbit afterwards.

Word to the wise though.. most 8mm ammunition is still corrosive, so clean that puppy every time you use it


User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

Oh dear. How unfortunate.

User currently offlineChristeljs From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 533 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

Quoting Azza40 (Reply 1):
dont shoot me

Me neither!!
 checkeredflag 



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User currently offlineAircraft From France, joined Jan 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2451 times:

Ha ha, what a primitive and archaic weapon.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

1893, did you even have to go through a dealer for that one?

The cut-off date before a weapon is considered an antique was 1897 if I remember correctly from that piece of nazi gun control regulation the 1964 gun control act.

Can you verify that is a 7mm not an 8mm.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Don't buy into that garbage on the website about, "Good backup hunting gun." Screw that, a practiced shooter can use a Mauser as a primary hunting weapon. 8mm SPBT's will drop anything from rabbits to large deer... although don't expect to be makeing soup from the rabbit afterwards

Well the soup you could make, but I wouldn't expect to be grilling rabbit haunches on the grill.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
most 8mm ammunition is still corrosive

True with military ammo, civilian new manufacture is not an issue.



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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

Quoting Aircraft (Reply 5):
Ha ha, what a primitive and archaic weapon.

Most modern bolt action rifles, and yes that includes military sniper rifles, are based on the Mauser action. A new Ruger M77 MKII is almost a direct copy of a Mauser rifle slaped into a hunting stock.

Old doesn't necessarily mean bad, especially with firearms. The venerable 1911 is seeing a resurgence in popularity, almost 100 years into it's existence


User currently offlineAircraft From France, joined Jan 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2426 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 7):
Most modern bolt action rifles, and yes that includes military sniper rifles, are based on the Mauser action. A new Ruger M77 MKII is almost a direct copy of a Mauser rifle slaped into a hunting stock.

Old doesn't necessarily mean bad, especially with firearms. The venerable 1911 is seeing a resurgence in popularity, almost 100 years into it's existence

This is you.



User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

Quoting Aircraft (Reply 5):
Ha ha, what a primitive and archaic weapon.

But quite effective in the hands of someone with steady nerves who knows what he's doing. It's a good strong action, maybe not as safe as the '98 which was something of a product improved '93. As a matter of fact I had a Spanish '93 rebored to 7.62 NATO that was serviceable.

The Mausers are gone now but I still have 3 7.62x54 Russian rifles-two were reworked by VKT in Finland in the late thirties-early forties and then dumped in cosmoline, only to emerge in the 1980s. They have the original action, magazine housing, bolt and trigger assembly but not much else.
They put a nice heavy barrel on, new wood, and tuned the trigger release. It is said that the arsenal wouldn't release one if it shot wider than 1 MOA.

Then there's the small matter of the arsenal reworked Chinese M1944 copy police carbine....it hurts to fire it.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

Quoting Aircraft (Reply 8):
This is you.

I would really appreciate it if you would stop giving away my bright ideas for discreetly sneaking into foreign harbors....mmmkkay

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 9):
The Mausers are gone now but I still have 3 7.62x54 Russian rifles-two were reworked by VKT in Finland in the late thirties-early forties and then dumped in cosmoline, only to emerge in the 1980s.

My Mosin Nagant is still my favorite choice for hunting with. It's a captured Tsarist Guard weapon that managed to sit out WWII.

90 years old, perfectly serviceable and accurate as a laser.

Although... also not good for making rabbit dishes with


User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

I have a similar rifle, 1919 Swedish in 6.5mm. The only easily noticeable difference being that mine has micrometer sights and a different mount for the bayonet. Every part with matching serial numbers and never fired although I'm often tempted.


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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6129 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2394 times:
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Great, now get a .45 automatic and you can have something more practical for shooting inside. Watch your wrist , though.


MGGS
User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

I will never understand this interest in guns.

QFF


User currently offlineMham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3567 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

Of course, some would never understand this interest in aviation...

User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 6):

Can you verify that is a 7mm not an 8mm.

Originally 7mm Mauser, but was rebarrelled in 1939 for 8mm. Ammo's less than 10 cents a round ($1.30 for a 15 round box), and I ordered a case (900 rounds) for $78. It does have corrosive primers, recommended cleaning with 4 to 1 water and ammonia after shooting. I think I bought them out of the Yugoslavian, now they only have Romanian http://aimsurplus.com/acatalog/copy_of_8mm.html

Quoting L-188 (Reply 6):
1893, did you even have to go through a dealer for that one?

I'm not sure if he is a dealer, since he calls himself the Pre-1899 Specialist and deals in nothing but pre-1899 arms, but no FFL or anything required except a copy of my driver's license to prove that I'm at least 21. It is a pre-1899 rifle.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 6):
The cut-off date before a weapon is considered an antique was 1897 if I remember correctly from that piece of nazi gun control regulation the 1964 gun control act.

1898 and the Nazi-inspired piece of garbage known as the 1968 Gun Control Act. The awesome group Jews For the Preservation of Firearms Ownership shows how the text was partly copied directly from Third Reich government law: http://www.jpfo.org/GCA_68.htm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 12):
Great, now get a .45 automatic and you can have something more practical for shooting inside.

I have access to a .38 S&W revolver, but I don't really have a need for a home defense gun at the moment. Starkville is a very safe town. I'm more concerned that my back door doesn't have a deadbolt on it.


I'm not sure how the rear sight is numbered, though. How many meters does each click represent? 100? 50? 25?

http://www.antiquefirearms.org/Turk-6.jpg

[Edited 2006-05-08 01:17:05]

User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2342 times:

Quoting Aircraft (Reply 5):
Ha ha, what a primitive and archaic weapon.

http://www.mauserwaffen.de/index.php?id=37&lang=en

I'm not into guns, but the new Mausers more or less look exactly like MD-90's.



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User currently offlineBaylorairbear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 15):
I'm not sure how the rear sight is numbered, though. How many meters does each click represent?

I can't see the picture now, so I'm going from memory.

The rear sight has twenty clicks, right? If so, then each click should account for 10 meters in distance, but don't hold me to that Big grin I love an old piece with a solid action.

BAB

Sounds like there are some Call of Duty players in here  silly 



I'm just skipping stones...
User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

Just give me a Winchester and I'm okay.


Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2298 times:

The Swedish Mausers are the nicest, but too expensive for me right now.

And I'm not sure it's 10m per click, because at 20 clicks that sight is way up there. Seems way too far for just 200m.

And QANTASforever, I'm really not being ugly, but it just makes me smile when you're a lobbyist fighting for the glory of the Australian Republic, but you say that you just don't understand people enjoying shooting guns.

[Edited 2006-05-08 05:01:55]

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 15):
I'm not sure if he is a dealer, since he calls himself the Pre-1899 Specialist and deals in nothing but pre-1899 arms, but no FFL or anything required except a copy of my driver's license to prove that I'm at least 21

Ok, so you didn't need to fill out the BATF ppwk for that one.

Nice the less the government knows the better we all are.

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 19):
The Swedish Mausers are the nicest, but too expensive for me right now.

Yeah I wish I had gotten in on them in the 1990's when they where released from the Swedish Arsonals....Ditto for those Finnish Mosins.



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 19):
And QANTASforever, I'm really not being ugly, but it just makes me smile when you're a lobbyist fighting for the glory of the Australian Republic, but you say that you just don't understand people enjoying shooting guns.

I'm pretty sure the republican movement, likewise the pro-monarchy movement, would find stiff opposition from the nation on the whole if guns became involved. I fail to see the similarities.


User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2248 times:

Quoting Mham001 (Reply 14):
Of course, some would never understand this interest in aviation...

I think comparing aircraft with firearms is a little like apples and oranges.

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 19):
And QANTASforever, I'm really not being ugly, but it just makes me smile when you're a lobbyist fighting for the glory of the Australian Republic, but you say that you just don't understand people enjoying shooting guns.

I'll shoot a political bullet, but never a real one.

I fail to see the point you're trying to make.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 21):
I fail to see the similarities.

Glad to see I'm not the only one.

QFF


User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1340 posts, RR: 29
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

Quoting QANTASFOREVER (Reply 22):
I think comparing aircraft with firearms is a little like apples and oranges.

Many people (myself included) simply have an appreciation for well built machines and well executed designs. Many guns, aircraft, etc could be lumped together in this regard.



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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

WOw !!


You're a real man now MD90.


25 MD-90 : Two points: 1. "fighting for the glory of the Australian Republic" sounds like pro-military, pro-"support the troops" propaganda, but you're a lobbyi
26 Post contains images Thom@s : You have access to weapons in the US? I got my first trifle last week incidently... Thom@s
27 Miamiair : The rifle is under the category of "Curio and/or Relic" and thust doesn't require all the ATF paperwork. Very nice rifle, enjoy it.
28 Oli80 : A questions if I may; Why do the US use 'mm' for describing the diametre of a bullet, yet every other measurement they have is inches, feet and miles?
29 Miamiair : Mostly, because the cartridge is created in a country utilizing the metric system. Notice I wrote "mostly." There are several cartidges that are creat
30 QANTASforever : Fair enough. Yes, it's called academic conflict. To draw a link between actually shooting someone and having a political argument with them is quite
31 Dougloid : When i got my Moisin Nagants a whole bunch had come on the market from Finland. At one point I had an 1893 Chatellerault, a 1913 Westinghouse and a 1
32 MDorBust : Let's see... I know at least three reasons why people own a firearm and they aren't always commonly shared ideals. Some people own firearms because it
33 Go3Team : I'd be interested in seeing the numbers of people who shit on guns, but enjoy FPS games.
34 L-188 : C&R guns are a different catagory. You can get a license from the BATF to go directly through the wholesaler. But if you don't have the license (Clas
35 N766UA : Wow, nice gun. Take good care of it!
36 BHMBAGLOCK : I lucked into mine through an ex-SF buddy. A number of us pitched in together to buy a couple of cases and ended up paying only $225 per rifle. Like
37 Post contains images Boeing744 : 37 replies and no ANCFlyer???
38 L-188 : It depends on who designed the bullet and when it was designed. For example take the 7.64 nato. When Winchester civilianized the round back in the 195
39 Miamiair : You mean 7.62, don't ya? (7.62 X 51)
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