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Moussaoui Moves To Withdraw Guilty Plea  
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

Convicted September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui says he lied on the witness stand about being involved in the plot and wants to withdraw his guilty plea because he now believes he can get a fair trial.

In a motion filed Friday but released Monday, Moussaoui said he testified March 27 he was supposed to hijack a fifth plane on September 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House "even though I knew that was a complete fabrication."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/08/moussaoui.ap/index.html

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User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

"...who's sorry now? Who's sad and blue?"

Ahhh, spending the next sixty years in solitary confinement is going to be a real bummer.


User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1717 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

Whatever, ... Go to jail, go directly to jail....

You're not going to France.
You're not going to be retried.

You're going to jail.

buh bye.



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User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 2):
Whatever, ... Go to jail, go directly to jail....

You're not going to France.
You're not going to be retried.

You're going to jail.

buh bye.

hahahaha LOL  rotfl 



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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1647 times:

Bread, water and a pot to piss in. That's what he gets.

User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1647 times:

Yeah I agree with everyone so far, firstly did anybody really believe that? I knew I didnt when he said him and the dimwhit shoe bomber were supposed to crash into the WH.
He plead guilty, he made those statements at the sentancing trial IIRC and it seemed an obvious attempt to get himself the death penalty, but I think the jury saw through this, and made the decision they did and I think it is the right one. He cannot withdraw a guilty plea after sentancing, he can appeal it later but the chances of that getting through is slimmer than Kate Moss after 6 months in Darfur.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1624 times:

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 2):
Whatever, ... Go to jail, go directly to jail....

You're not going to France.
You're not going to be retried.

You're going to jail.

buh bye.

He's also not getting thrice daily ass rapings for the rest of his life. He should count his blessings.

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 5):
I knew I didnt when he said him and the dimwhit shoe bomber were supposed to crash into the WH.

I got a chuckle out of that one. I would have loved to have seen the response that Reid gave when questioned about it. "Uhm...no your Honor. I don't know what this fool is talking about at all. I was told to blow stuff up with my feet."

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 5):
but the chances of that getting through is slimmer than Kate Moss after 6 months in Darfur.

Nice analogy. Must find a way to fit that one into conversation.



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User currently offlineScrappy74 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 97 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1614 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 6):
He's also not getting thrice daily ass rapings for the rest of his life. He should count his blessings.

It's too bad a few weeks at Sing Sing or Rikers Island periodically can't be written in as a rider to Zacky's sentence. I was surprised by the announcement for only a brief moment in the gym...he's figured out that this is a way to remain in the spotlight since the MSM had largely dropped the subject over the weekend.

He's likely safer in that concrete palace than out on the streets...



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1608 times:

I feel better about the life imprisonment decision now, knowing he's already trying to find ways out of it.


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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1595 times:
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Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
Convicted September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui says he lied on the witness stand about being involved in the plot and wants to withdraw his guilty plea because he now believes he can get a fair trial.

Maybe he feels this way after his first day as someones girlfriend. Sorry Zach, you play the hand you're dealt. Too late. You lost, America won. Enjoy confinement, you'll have plenty of time to convert to Islam.



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User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

Quoting Scrappy74 (Reply 7):
It's too bad a few weeks at Sing Sing or Rikers Island periodically can't be written in as a rider to Zacky's sentence.

I have said this in other threads, I also think it would be a great way to raise revenue to have a pay per view cage match with Zachy, OBL if he is ever caught, but you have 12 lower Manhattan firefighters vs Zakmo, if he can climb out of the 15 foot fences while the firefighters get pool balls in tube socks. If he can make it out, we will extradite him to France. 49.95 on pay per view, have Don King be the promoter and Fox TV do the coverage, super bowl priced commercials during it, all the proceeds go to rebuilding the freedom tower.

Quoting Scrappy74 (Reply 7):
He's likely safer in that concrete palace than out on the streets...

For sure, he would get smoked by someone on the street. But even more dangerous than the street would be general population lockup in one of the more wild state prisons, Sing Sing does come to mind, but Pelican Bay in CA, he wouldnt last too long in either place. Id give an extra fruit cup everyday for a week at lunch for the first inmate that shanks him.


User currently offlineScrappy74 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 97 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 10):
I have said this in other threads, I also think it would be a great way to raise revenue to have a pay per view cage match with Zachy, OBL if he is ever caught, but you have 12 lower Manhattan firefighters vs Zakmo

Welcome to my growing RU list...I floated a similar idea during a class last semester which was met with gasps and a solitary chuckle. Well perhaps a new one would be to let him go but give him a Martha Stewart-style ankle bracelet...

 stirthepot 



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User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1564 times:

He's just pissed he's not going to get his virgins in heaven after becoming a martyr for the cause....


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User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1552 times:

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 12):
He's just pissed he's not going to get his virgins in heaven after becoming a martyr for the cause....

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I bet he wanted the death sentence, now he's got a fate worse than death (solitary confinement for life). Whilst it is gonna cost Johnny Q Taxpayer a lot of cash to keep him behind bars at least we know he's suffering.

BF



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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1552 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 8):
I feel better about the life imprisonment decision now, knowing he's already trying to find ways out of it.

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Definitely. At first, I was disappointed that they didn't choose to fry his ass, but that's what he really seems to want.

Glad we didn't give it to him then.



-NWA742


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1531 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 9):
Sorry Zach, you play the hand you're dealt. Too late.

Understand Florence, Colorado is nice in the winter.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21514 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

Isn't lying under oath a crime in and of itself? So now he's trying to get out of one crime by saying he committed another?  confused 

-Mir



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1507 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 6):
He's also not getting thrice daily ass rapings for the rest of his life. He should count his blessings.



Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 12):
He's just pissed he's not going to get his virgins in heaven after becoming a martyr for the cause

I think he just relized that in prison...he would be the Virgin



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1494 times:

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 2):
You're not going to France.
You're not going to be retried.

And you're not getting those virgins either . . .

Yet another need for the LOSER Emoticon on A-Net.







 scratchchin  How long before some ultra-bleeding heart liberal decides he's deserving of another trial?


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1488 times:

Well, since he pled guilty he doesn't have the right to an appeal on his original charge, so its time to pay the piper..It will only be a matter of time before he starts losing his mind..  crazy  Love it when a plan backfires like this..

User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 18):
How long before some ultra-bleeding heart liberal decides he's deserving of another trial?

 checkmark 

Waiting for the ACLU to stick their nose in any day now...


User currently offlineScrappy74 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 97 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 18):
Well, since he pled guilty he doesn't have the right to an appeal on his original charge,

Just read an update in Washington Post that the bid was rejected...

".....Facing transfer to the nation's toughest federal prison, Zacarias Moussaoui served up what may be his final legal surprise yesterday: The al-Qaeda conspirator said he was not involved in the Sept. 11, 2001, terror plot after all and wants a new trial to prove it. His efforts were immediately rejected by a federal judge...."

Game, set, match...enjoy the public toilet, ZMo.



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Thank God they shot that one down quick. Scumbag.


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

Seems to be a tad bit too late to change his mind. What an idiot!

Why waste more taxpayer dollars from John Q. Public just to get what 'Zack Preppy Morris'.....I mean.... Moussaoui wants?! Ridiculous!!!!!!!

I thought he was going to Florence, CO. to carry out his sentence. Is this still gonna happen? When will he be transferred there?

Have fun, Zack! Hope you become paranoid and deliousional with an idenitity disorder before the year is out!



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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1418 times:

Whatever, he now finally has come to senses and has said the truth. Late or not, the main point is that the reality now becomes clear. He will in the end have a re-trial, but it will take ages.

25 DeltaGator : No retrial. You can't withdraw a guilty plea after sentencing. No retrial, go directly to SuperMax, don't get ass raped, and die many years later in
26 11Bravo : DeltaGator is correct. There is no right to appeal once a guilty plea has been entered. The judge in this case made that absolutely clear in the sent
27 AirframeAS : Inadequate representation?! The man fired his attorneys for christs sakes!! He represented himself!!
28 DeltaGator : That judge did everything to ensure a fair trial. Judges don't like to see their rulings (although this one came from a jury) overturned on appeal, es
29 Post contains images 11Bravo : That is why I said it's unlikely He didn't actually represent himself. First he had legal council, then he fired them, then he was forced to take the
30 DeltaGator : Well it breaks down two ways...If you're an Islamic terrorist then the answer is no. If you're most everyone else the answer is yes.
31 ME AVN FAN : Fact is that the verdict is/was based on wrong assumptions (self-accusations). There will be a revision trial in some years time. This is customary i
32 DeltaGator : You spin it however you need to spin it. If the self accusations are lies then perhaps he should have shut his mouth during the trial and let the fact
33 DeltaGator : It was believed because he was under oath. So if he wants to retract his guilty plea he is now saying he is guilty of perjury by lying under oath abo
34 ME AVN FAN : not only perhaps but quite definitely. guilty of gross nonsense there will BE a retrial, but it will take years
35 11Bravo : It wasn't a verdict, he plead guilty and was sentenced. That's just not true. You have to have a basis in law for an appeal of a conviction or senten
36 AirframeAS : And he will be granted appeals but decisions will be denied every single time, I can guarantee that! He is GUILTY...end of story. He is gone!
37 PSA727 : I guess things seem less glorious to him spending the rest of his life rotting in an American jail. This proves that life imprisonment is more cruel f
38 Scbriml : There is a cost associated with real justice in all countries that dispense it. It goes with the teritory.
39 Wrighbrothers : Right, so he does all the terrible crimes he did, then pleaded guilty, exited screaming out to the court that the west is going to die etc etc, Now he
40 ME AVN FAN : true. his problem and not mine. By common sense he should have corrected his nonsense BEFORE the sentence and not after. what terrible crimes ? A) gr
41 Wrighbrothers : Sorry, I worded my post wrong No, he didn't take part, BUT he was (and by the likes of it, still is) willing to, and was probably going to do the cri
42 ME AVN FAN : no doubt. but it nevertheless is not the same as conspiracy and/or really done crimes.
43 AirframeAS : Dude, you sound like you are on HIS side. Why not you lawyer up with him? Im pretty sure that there are not very many lawyers here in the U.S. that w
44 ME AVN FAN : He before his time at university in London was neither fundamentalist nor extremist, and not terrorist-minded at all. He changed in that time. His br
45 11Bravo : Sense and substance really have nothing to do with it. He entered into a plea agreement. That's like a contract. He signed that agreement and he verb
46 Post contains images Scbriml : Having pleaded guilty under oath, I don't see what options he has to back out now. In a slightly twisted way, it's quite amusing.
47 ME AVN FAN : you might say as well that "it only is a declarative agreement". An interesting challenge for a lawyer to overcome this obstacle and achieve a re-tri
48 Post contains images AirframeAS : That was then...which is irrevelant. This is NOW! We are more worried about what he is now than when he was in London or when he was in his early 20'
49 ME AVN FAN : not really so much to be worried about. Or are you worried about whomever may become a terrorist, whomever may become criminal, earthquakes which may
50 AirframeAS : ME AVN FAN: I realize you are from Switzerland, but your laws and our laws are like apples and oranges. The man has been convicted by a judge in good
51 CPDC10-30 : Poor bastard can't be a martyr now. Too bad.
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