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The Most Cruelty I've Ever Seen (video)  
User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4395 times:

Guys,

I just saw this video of a little dog and I think I can't sleep many nights now on. A little puppy being crushed to death with high-heeled shoes...

This is the most cruelty I've seen!

I warn you, if you don't like a dog being crushed to death while crying, please do not press this link.

http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/p2crushvid

I feel veeery sorry for this dog, I want this lady put to prison for the rest of her life.

David A. E.

PS: Don't blame me if this link has been showed here, just delete this post.

[Edited 2006-05-11 00:44:28]

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User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4381 times:

I have heeded your warning, (thanks for that) and am not going to watch this film. Even though I agree with people being made aware of this sort of thing, I value my sleep as well!!

I'm curious to know though-where was it filmed, why do you think this person did this?


User currently offlineBA767s From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4374 times:

Is that real? If so:

That makes me feel sick, total anger towards that b*tch id love to do the same (if not worse) to her.

John


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4374 times:

PETA.... *yawn*

It's China... do you think they care about PETA?

There's a pretty long list of things that we should try to get China to fix... human rights should probably be a little closer to the top of the list.


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4374 times:

I think it was filmed in China. I have no idea why doing this, maybe just to be showing off, showing the videographer something "new" to the world.

Man, I was going to puke after this!  vomit 

-David


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8685 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Thread starter):
I feel veeery sorry for this dog, I want this lady put to prison for the rest of her life.

You know, that line alone is worth of so much personal respect. There's a lot of people in this forum who would have no problem with wishing the same fate to the woman, who would let their rage get the better of them. You didn't - and that's commendable.

As for the video... it is cruel, of course, and sadly there are thousands of people in this world who go through similar daily torture, deadly or not. People do this to others because they seek power and influence, even if it's just the power over the life of a defenseless puppy.

However, PeTA lost all my respect when they compared livestock transports of chicken to the Shoa, insulting the millions of victims of this incomprehensible outrage. Since the day I heard about this, I've been sceptical of everything PeTA says, does or reports.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4330 times:

Right, OK, hundreds of children die every day because they don't have water, they don't have food or they have diseases that are preventable and treatable, yet the cruelest thing in your mind is a cute puppy being killed?

Get some perspective. Countless humans are suffering much more than this dog ever did. Yes, it's bad. But absolutely nothing compared to the real cruelty that goes on in the world.

If that made you cry, this should probably make you hang yourself:

http://www.ourworldfoundation.org.uk/0021172.jpg

Graphic content.


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4330 times:

Aloges. As for my English, I didn't exactly understand what you were saying. Did you say that I was wrong about something, or I am right about something.

Thanks for understanding me.  Smile


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

777236ER

I know that the dog wasn't the only one dying, even of humans, but I don't like when people kill animals that haven't done a thing, and also when people let kids die because of hunger.

Everything about killing someone is horrible...

But this video is sooo cruel, that I couldn't stand it. Even the picture... poor kid.


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8685 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4315 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 7):
Did you say that I was wrong about something, or I am right about something.

Check your profile, that should clear things up.  Wink



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4309 times:

Thanks Aloges.

Regards, and good night,
David


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 8):
But this video is sooo cruel, that I couldn't stand it. Even the picture... poor kid.

So a dog being killed results in 100 words, including such hyperbole as 'This is the most cruelty I've seen!' and 'I want this lady put to prison for the rest of her life.'. But a photo of a starving child brings out an entire...five words?

There are many more cruel things than the death of a dog, sorry.


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

777236ER.

I don't think you can read this title perfectly:

"The Most Cruelty I've Ever Seen (video)"

You understand now?  Smile


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4294 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 12):
You understand now? Smile

No. You've presumably seen starving people in Africa, aircraft hitting the World Trade Centre, photos of people being marched into concentration camps etc etc ad infinatum, yet the death of a single animal is the most cruelty you've ever seen?


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8685 posts, RR: 43
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4283 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 11):
There are many more cruel things than the death of a dog, sorry.

I don't really think anyone is disagreeing with you. It's a video that appalled him, aged 13 to 15; stating that does not imply he's "assessing" anything.

Hell, my education includes taking corpses apart, which would probably send half of this forum to the porcelain goddess in disgust and because it's so "cruel". Yet my definition of cruelty is pretty much the same as the norm and I'm too appalled by the video in the thread starter. Does that make the fact children are starving, but could be living if this world was just a wee bit fair to them, any less horrendous? NOT AT ALL!



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4272 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 14):
Does that make the fact children are starving, but could be living if this world was just a wee bit fair to them, any less horrendous? NOT AT ALL!



Quoting Aloges (Reply 14):
It's a video that appalled him, aged 13 to 15; stating that does not imply he's "assessing" anything.

It's a video that appauled him, but the overuse of hyperbole shows that even at age 13-15 he hasn't been exposed to what are the true horrors of the world. I'm appauled by the video too. But when people, especially teenagers in developed Western countries, think that this is one of the worst things in the world, then the status quo remains. There will be more genocides, more humanitarian disasters, more rapes, more murders and more war, if kids think that the death of a dog is the worst thing out there.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4272 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 6):
Right, OK, hundreds of children die every day because they don't have water, they don't have food or they have diseases that are preventable and treatable, yet the cruelest thing in your mind is a cute puppy being killed?

Are you serious? A puppy cannot defend itself. A puppy cannot get aid...oh wait, aid usually goes to the governments embattled in civil war or war with their neighbors.....Yeah, I think I'll worry more about a puppy thanks.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4269 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 16):
Are you serious? A puppy cannot defend itself. A puppy cannot get aid...oh wait, aid usually goes to the governments embattled in civil war or war with their neighbors.....Yeah, I think I'll worry more about a puppy thanks.

Are you serious? A child can't defend itself. If a child doesn't get aid it's never the fault of the child. It's never the fault of a child that his or her country is at war, or has a corrupt country.

If you worry more about a puppy than a child, I think the says more about you than you realise.


User currently offlineCptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4259 times:

"The human race would probably have a chance if it weren't for people."

...a quote by good buddy and former co-worker.

Over the years, I've become more and more agitated and infuriated by people who, for whatever reason (them being sick shits, or participating in sick shit to make money from other sick shits), engage in this type cruetly to defensless animals. I'll not address the argument of harvesting animals for food (and I'll qualify this by saying I believe in "rapid" harvesting, not misplaced shots by the inexperienced that results in trauma and agony); I like steak and such, but I wouldn't condone the act of commiting slow death to any animal. (Well, I do dispatch poisonous spiders, snakes and such around the homestead).

Now, for the other sick shot of the starving person. Yep, that's sick too, but again in the context I am relating to, it was brought on by other sick shit people, not say, a large cow in high heel shoes to parade a video on the internet for whatever gain.

Even though I value human life over animals, in the context that I understand this video, I would have no trouble at all "offing" the sickos that participated in this. They are probably not rehabilitable (is that a word?).

As far as the other endless (human) tragedies, I wouldn't have any trouble "offing" those instigators either. But I am in the minority, witness all the bleeding hearts out there. Anyway, it seems a lose-lose situation to try to be helpful and compasionate to those in need; some faction will come back and bite you in the ass after your help is deemed not enough at best or misguided and political at worst. Regards...jack



all best; jack
User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4257 times:

Obviously there are great injustices done all over the world to Children and animals, pretty much everyone at one stage or another, and in the grand scheme of things, perspective is important.

However there's nothing like a video of brutality and cruelty to alter one's perspective. It's pretty basic human emotion for someone's heart to go out to a puppy in this situation, when so graphically portrayed. It's hard to have rational perspective when something like this pulls on the heart strings.

Even though PETA are one hell of a wierd bunch, at least there is an organisation acting on behalf of thes animals, as there are many organisation representing other groups that suffer injustices.

We probably can't save them all, but we should at least be aware of as many as we can so we can make the choice.


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4229 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 11):

Quit your rants, you do this alot, and it gets annoying  Angry


Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4214 times:

That is disgusting. There is no reason for such cruelty.

User currently offlineJetset25j From New Zealand, joined Feb 2006, 156 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4171 times:

Not going to watch it, just seeing the picture of that poor pup is stomach churning.
That perverse whore deserves a death a thousand times worse and hopefully karma will pay a visit to her life sometime soon.
China and some other asian countries treatment of animals (and all too often humans) is abysmal. One would think life has no value whatsoever.
There was a documentary I watched about the dog trade, apparantly the best way to get the fur and meat is to skin the dog alive and let it die slowly.
The above clip though I dont think can be pinned on a regime or government or country-just some sick and nasty people that are unfortunately all over the world and really have no heart, mercy or sense of respect.



Air New Zealand-Airline of the world's greatest travellers.
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4140 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 3):
It's China... do you think they care about PETA?

What a shame, I won't watch the video. You can forget about any sort of Justice for animals in that country. A total disgrace. Korea and China will probably always be like this.


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4089 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 13):
No. You've presumably seen starving people in Africa, aircraft hitting the World Trade Centre, photos of people being marched into concentration camps etc etc ad infinatum, yet the death of a single animal is the most cruelty you've ever seen?

777236ER. Are you missing something? I've not being watching films or pictures of starving kids in Africa, but I've seen a few photos, only a few. Of course it's cruelty, but not can I see a kid being crushed to death in 1.5 minute..


25 Pawsleykat : I had to stop after 45 seconds. Oh GOD. What on earth would want to make a woman or anybody for that matter, do that to an innocent animal. I urge all
26 AR385 : I have chosen not to see the video. I love animals, although I'm not a PETA freak. I believe that an animal life cannot be equated with a human life.
27 Post contains images KROC : If I kid cannot get water or food or aid because the leaders of the country they are in are too worried about fighting the guys next door, then while
28 Post contains images EWS : That video is rancid... I couldnt watch it all.. I have my dog laid next to me here and if i saw someone doing that to another dog, or any animal infa
29 777236ER : So you're saying it's more cruel for a puppy to be killed than for a child to starve? I don't think the idea that humans are better than animals is a
30 HBDAN : Have to agree with you here. The woman in the movie is SICK and does this terrible thing to the puppy. But try to open your minds guys... Much more i
31 KROC : In the manner the puppy was killed, by being stepped on with stilleto heels...yes. If a child is starving, other people can do their best to help out
32 JAGflyer : I cannot comprehend the purpose of that. Is stepping on a dog the newest crazy chinese medicinal belief that heals bad sex lebido? WTF is the purpose
33 AR385 : Agreed. You couldn't have said it better
34 777236ER : Yet you said: when comparing a puppy to a child. My specific example was a child starving to death, which in my mind is more cruel than killing a pup
35 Post contains images Aero145 : Wow, I hope my thread isn't leading somewhere it shouldn't lead, I think at least it will, according to KROC: Oh well. Humans killing humans isn't goo
36 Aero145 : Did I say that this is one of the worst things in the world? Well, it maybe isn't. Is Iceland a Western country? Oh, I didn't know that. We call this
37 KROC : I'm comparing the situations not a child to a puppy. A starving kid has a chance. Other humans around can do whatever they can to try and feed that c
38 777236ER : That's a bit of a convoluted argument. A starving child is essentially just as innocent as the puppy. I don't get what you're trying to say here. Oth
39 Nordair : For chrissakes 777236ER, let it go. Yes, there will always be things that are more cruel than another. Aero145 was telling the board of the cruelest t
40 Post contains images KROC : True, but a starving kid stands a better chance at surviving that a puppy getting tortured to death. Other humans DO help starving children. Yes, not
41 Post contains images Aero145 : Killing animals for wool and meat is not the same as crushing a puppy do death, maybe just for a showoff.
42 777236ER : Again, what point are you trying to make? Other humans help starving animals too. Look how much money organisations like the RSPCA and the Ameican eq
43 Post contains images Linco22 : mmm I pondered over making a post but I will. I agree with KROC, its the way in which this killing happened. Aero145 is distessed as would anyone who
44 Rolfen : WTF is this? I am not watching this I dont need it.
45 Myt332 : Human life is more precious than a dog's yet cruelty should not be tolerated. That's the end of it.
46 EWS : Probably not, Can't image what he would say if it was one of his own pets.. sad thing is though i don't think the guy has a caring bone in a his body
47 AirbusA346 : Where's the video, because I can't find it. Tom.
48 Post contains images BMIFlyer : As was mentioned earlier, mr 777 only appears to like stirring up trouble Lee
49 Post contains links Aero145 : I am seeing the same. It was gone when I came back from my school, I hope it'll show up again. There are more horrors on the site, man, it's horrible
50 AzoresLover : how do you get to the video?
51 Aero145 : I don't know. It was on the site in the beginning, but has been removed. Maybe because it's so disgusting.
52 WellHung : Aero145, how would the Daniel Pearl video rank in your exhaustive 'Cruel Videos' countdown? I can't see this video, but I can't imagine someone puttin
53 777236ER : I haven't even begun to open up. I will if you want? You don't know me at all, how can you suggest I don't care? To me it seems that those who think
54 Post contains images Aero145 : Too bad, I can't do anything. At least, if you see the other link, then you can maybe understand what's going on there in China.
55 KROC : And unless its an Innuendo Thread, you always seem to be on the side very few people agree with...just to stir things up...
56 Cosec59 : Just because an individual's views are not that of the majority, doesn't constitute stirring
57 WellHung : I'm sorry, but I seemed to have missed your ranking. Since I can't see this video, I'd like to have the perspective of someone who's seen enough crue
58 Post contains links and images 777236ER : For example: http://web.amnesty.org/report2005/chn-summary-eng ? What about other countries in the world? http://prisonersoverseas.com/wp-cont...n_ge
59 Post contains images ORFflyer : He pointed that out to you already. It's the situation, not dog versus child. So start discussing, and quityerbitching! Imagine that....
60 Post contains images KROC : Beautiful.
61 Post contains images Aero145 : Yep, exactly. Not puppy vs. child. Regards, David PS: Yes![Edited 2006-05-11 20:12:22]
62 Post contains images Matt72033 : i agree with you for once 777......yeah its cruel to kill puppies in that kinda manner, but theres pretty sick shit all over the world going on to hu
63 Aero145 : Why?? Because you're a human?
64 Matt72033 : blunt and to the point.....Yes!
65 Post contains images Aero145 : Well, I don't know how to say it in English, but in Icelandic it is called to be "sjálfselsk/ur". -David PS: That doesn't meen anything bad really.
66 Matt72033 : care to translate? all i'm saying is when you read some of the horrific child abuse stories there are out there, a puppy isn't really all that importa
67 Raffik : But we're not talking about child abuse today- we are talking about animal cruelty
68 Post contains images Linco22 : Someone could always start a thread on child cruelty.....
69 777236ER : Yup, and saying things like: KROC, do you use medical drugs that have been tested on animals?
70 WellHung : We are talking about 'the most cruelty' Aero145 has ever seen. I don't see any qualifiers about it being the most animal cruelty. No one is saying an
71 Aero145 : Exactly! Mr 777236ER started talking about child cruelty, why cannot he just make a thread about child cruelty? -David
72 Post contains images Chrisjake : agreed, there IS horrific child abuse going on....start a thread on it if you want to discuss it! there ARE people starving around the world....feel
73 777236ER : I used it to counter your point that,
74 Aero145 : Is something wrong, mate? You're always saying this again, put can't you understand that 'This is the worst animal cruelty I have ever seen' ??? That
75 Post contains images Matt72033 : well maybe had you said that in the first place! Geez
76 Chrisjake : irrelevant... if the original poster of the thread thought that this was the worst cruelty he has ever seen, then who are ANY of us to tell him that
77 Matt72033 : i'm not saying he's wrong, but if thats the cruelist thing he's ever seen he needs to wake up to the world!
78 Continental : Agree 100%. Some people on this site just cannot accept that people have opinions.
79 Aero145 : Thank you. And I also agree, as many people are always putting something pretty disturbing on one's comments (not only mine).
80 WellHung : Like everyone blasting 777236ER for expressing his!
81 Continental : Yeah but he was criticizing someone else's opinion, he did not want to accept it. The main point is, if you don't like it, don't read it.
82 Post contains images Aero145 : Yep, that's just because "everyone" doesn't like 777236ER's comments.
83 Post contains images YYZflyer : I could only watch that video for about a minute before I had to stop it. I can't believe someone would make an animal suffer like that. Now i'm goin
84 Post contains images Chrisjake : yeah....in someone else's thread about something else
85 WellHung : "Yeah but" - that says it all right there. If someone lays their opinion out there, they better be ready for someone else to criticize it if they do
86 Aero145 : Hello YYZflyer. I watched, unfortunately, the video to the end, and thought:"I can't sleep for many nights now!", but I fell asleep instantly. Were y
87 WellHung : Oh, you're one of the people who didn't understand the premise of this thread in the first place. Durrrr...
88 Aero145 : Durrrr what? Now, I've seen more cruelty, that was racoons being skinned alive, and I can't change the first post!
89 WellHung : Durrrr you didn't say anything specifically about animal cruelty in the original post. Durrr....
90 777236ER : So you suggest that only thread starters should post in their threads? Uh...ok. All the points I made are relevant. And my opinion is that there are
91 YeahitsK : Aero145, being deeply disturbed by what was in the video is the appropriate reaction for a civilized human being. I don't know why people are trying t
92 Post contains images Matt72033 : its just another one of our 13-15 year olds again.....the cruelest thing he ever saw before this was probably when the big boys at school took his di
93 Aero145 : YeahitsK. Thanks for this input, but can you tell me a little what's in that Daniel Pearl video? Thanks! David
94 Post contains images Aero145 : Durr, quit this sh**. And btw, I'm actually the most cruel boy in the school. That's me who's bad to other guys. And I'm also in the oldest class of
95 Post contains images BMIFlyer : Mods, can we have this thread locked? The ensuing bitchfest is getting annoying now. Lee
96 Aero145 : Lee, I was thinking about this. But still, not sure. I'll talk to the Mods. Thanks, David
97 Post contains images YeahitsK : A husband and soon to be father being brutally murdered. His execution was meant to be slow and painful, shocking, and humiliating. I'm not going to
98 Post contains images Matt72033 : yes....im going to go and research the Icelandic national school dinner system!
99 Post contains images Matt72033 : its a one time only ride!!! £2.50 a time! no refunds!
100 Post contains images Aero145 : Not funny.
101 BritPilot777 : I think the threads gone way off the point for which it was started... Its turned into a Pricks R Us Thread!!! As has been mentioned, yes there are mi
102 Post contains links Matt72033 : ahhh, thats why your here? actually yes! take a trip to http://www.ogrish.com/archives/execution/ if u wanna see some really nasty shit!
103 AR385 : Aero145, I can give you a link to a website with the image. Out of respect for everybody else, I choose to do so privately, so if you are interested
104 Aero145 : Mods, please lock this thread. It has gone to a strange place thanks to Matt72033 and 77236ER. "Thanks" guys.
105 BritPilot777 : Shall we put that to vote?! Prick
106 Matt72033 : we're entitled to our opinions just as much as the next person!
107 Post contains images Fumanchewd : I will skip the video, thank you very much. I still have pains of guilt and remorse as my old dog (yes, he has passed on to the great fire hydrant in
108 Continental : Not only do I agree with that, but I also respect your opinion. I just don't think it was necessary to get that carried away and specific with Aero14
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