DeltaGator From United States, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 19 Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1104 times:
For crying out loud! Can't that girl watch TV or something instead of getting drunk and playing slap and tickle with some eurotrash teenager?
Quoting TedTAce (Thread starter): I guess I should add this to the sweet 16, American idol, and decline of our civilization threads
What's Sweet 16? Based on your other items there I'm guessing it is another thing leading to the downfall of western civilization.
And for an uneducated colonial like myself is it pronounced like Shav or with the hard "ch" sound? I need to know because the last time I was in London I might have been mistaken for one with my Gator baseball hat, jeans, and white tennis shoes though I was conspicupusly missing the bling bling or track suit. I might be white trash at home after a few drinks but I don't want to be it abroad!
"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
Gkirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23839 posts, RR: 69 Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1085 times:
Chav? Tut tut tut.
No Chavs in Scotland,you're either a Ned (if you're a lad) or a Senga (if you're a lassie), therefore in this case some dododgy Ned has got this Senga up the duff
Not surprised about this though
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
Let's see: chain smoker, 12 y.o., 1st pregnancy = premature baby (I'd say around the 28th week) who will have a cerebral hemorrhage and develop, most likely, a hydrocephalus. That means, NHS care for the rest of his life.
The worst part for me is the PROUD 34 y.o. grandmother. Proud of what?
Sad to see cases like this. We lost a patient yesterday on the ICU after being born at home from a 18 y.o. who did not know she was pregnant (!) and never went to any prenatal care consultation. Severe asphyxia....
Gkirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23839 posts, RR: 69 Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1047 times:
Quoting Oly720man (Reply 7):
Probably the only success in her daughter's otherwise screwed up existence
Come on, that's not really fair. So she made a mistake? That means her existence is screwed up?
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
Gkirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23839 posts, RR: 69 Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1038 times:
Flyingbabydoc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1031 times:
Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 9): Well, given mum's smoking and drinking hopefully the kid will be retarded and unable to reproduce
The problem is, that retarded kid will suffer tremendously by having countless surgeries (to drain his or her hydrocephalus) and other problems. The question is if the baby deserves this. And from what I gather, nothing will prevent this mother from repeating the mistake she is now so proud of again and again.
The grandmother was the one who shouldn't have reproduced, if she were not able to educate at least a bit her children... The mother is just a child.
TedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1031 times:
Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 9): hopefully the kid will be retarded and unable to reproduce.
You'd wish such a thing on the ONLY true victim??? By the way, retardation doesn't prevent one from re-producing..so this happy little gene pool can go merrily on it's way despite your 'best' wishes.
My hope, the kid comes out fine, and through recessive geneaology outsmarts his/her dubious pre-birth history and makes the world a slightly better place.
Banco From United Kingdom (England), joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 62 Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1018 times:
There are some pretty nasty comments on this thread.
This family need help, not sneering abuse.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
Brendan03 From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 812 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 966 times:
The girl, when asked why she did it responded with "yea but no but yea but no but everybody was doin it so I fought I'd join in but I didn't fink I wud get preggers coz It woz my first time but yea but no but yea but no but ohhh my god don't you give me evils"
Oly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 4767 posts, RR: 12 Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 957 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 8): Come on, that's not really fair. So she made a mistake? That means her existence is screwed up?
It's not this mistake I was thinking of, it's the drinking and smoking at 9 or 10, going out on the pull at 11. I know kids grow up quickly these days, but, gawd, what's the hurry? She's still a kid herself, for goodness sake. The rate she's going she's going to end up with lung cancer and cirrhosis of the liver before she gets to 30.
Man City p3 w3 d0 l0 f4 a0 P9 - hey it may never happen again!
Gkirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23839 posts, RR: 69 Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 947 times:
Quoting Oly720man (Reply 16): It's not this mistake I was thinking of, it's the drinking and smoking at 9 or 10, going out on the pull at 11.
I was drinking at 5 for god sake! And was on the pull by 6!
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
Linco22 From United Kingdom (Northern Ireland), joined Jun 2005, 1372 posts, RR: 24 Reply 20, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 943 times:
LTBEWR From United States, joined Jan 2004, 9375 posts, RR: 7 Reply 21, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 941 times:
We got or share of 'chavs' in the USA, with pre-teens getting pregent, using alcohol and with parents whom are fools. One has to wonder if these kids are part of a gene pool that has serious mental illness. This is worsened by too much free time, not enough work for the adults, poor schools, poor work opportunities and entertainment that encourages sex and bad beheavor.
To me, ANY guy who gets an under 18 woman preggers ought to face jail for statutory rape. That may curb their urges some.
Perhaps the government needs to look at this growing phenomon of the 'chav' and figure out how to reduce their numbers. It's too bad they couldn't put some kind of birth control drugs in their tea or alcoholic drink.
777236ER From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 12706 posts, RR: 58 Reply 22, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 937 times:
The parents should be locked up straight away. The guy who slept with her should be prosecuted for statutory rape. A 15 year old is one thing, but having sex is ridiculous, and clearly something the law should punish.
Does this show that sex education at school should start from almost as soon as they talk?
Linco22 From United Kingdom (Northern Ireland), joined Jun 2005, 1372 posts, RR: 24 Reply 23, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 933 times:
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 22): Does this show that sex education at school should start from almost as soon as they talk?
'kids' of that nature wont listen. maybe in the short term, but they'll always do their own thing. And again I believe in most cases, the parents need to buck their ideas up.
SmithAir747 From United States, joined Jan 2004, 1392 posts, RR: 32 Reply 24, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 920 times:
The town where I live in the US is just outside of Fort Wayne, IN; the town is Garrett, IN.
Garrett is what you in the UK would call a "chav" town. The main street (in this little rural railroad town) is populated by quite a number of teenage mothers (and sometimes fathers) pushing prams. Garrett, IN, has a sizable population of "chavs"!
SmithAir747
I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made... (Psalm 139:14)
Flyingbabydoc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 25, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 915 times:
Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 17): How the hell can you not know you're pregnant? So damn fat you didn't notice the difference?
Pure denial, we think. She has also an "a-social" background as we say here in Germany. The whole story was even more gruesome. The baby was in a breech presentation and was dangling outside up to the neck while the head was stuck, and the mother would not allow anyone to touch her.
Sometimes I think I should have been a commercial pilot...
Cheers
Alex
26 KaiGywer: Not totally pure, I think some stupidity was involved as well. Dumb people shouldn't breed/breather (pick your choice)
28 Pawsleykat: I thought 'nedette' was another name for a lassie up here? The whole fact about being 11 and pregnant is just terrible. It's even more shocking as th
29 Carmenlu15: Oh dear God. My own sister is 10 years old, and I could never imagine her in this situation. She's only a kid, ffs! Being the oldest of 4 siblings, I'
32 Flyingbabydoc: Yes, that is what we do. And then the shunts get clogged up, and need to be changed. On average, in the first year of life a child with post-hemorrha
33 AirbusA346: I was lucky then, I one had 1. Tom.
34 Flyingbabydoc: Yes, indeed. But probably the reason for your shunt was different. In any case, there are always exceptions to the rule. Sometimes it works really we
35 BMIFlyer: Well, seems the 15yr old chav has been charged with rape - About bloomin time!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/4764417.stm Lee
36 AirbusA346: Nope, my shunt was for post-hemorrhagic hydrocephalus. So they have charged the father with rape....Good Tom.
37 Flyingbabydoc: Well, consider yourself one of the few lucky ones! Good for you...
38 BMIFlyer: Seriously, why would a 15yr old think that having sex with a 11yr old is ok in the 1st place? Lee
39 AirbusA346: Don't really know, but you can ask similar questions about other things that happen in the world. Tom.
40 Pawsleykat: I agree. Well said BMIFlyer! That's probably the most intelligent statement I have heard in the last 4 hours and 3 minutes! JG
41 Slider: Can you translate for me? For real....I'm out of the loop... She should be arrested for child endangerment in utero. Total lockdown so she can't cont
42 Jamesbuk: Erm well my aunt didnt know she was pregnant, when her contractions started she was rushed to hospital and they thought it was a dodgy appendix, they
43 Carmenlu15: No offense meant either, but from a female point of view, I find it odd that a woman wouldn't notice she hasn't had her period for nine months! I've
44 Jamesbuk: Ya know what i never thought of that!! although she was on some medication for something or other so that could have led her to believe that stopped
45 TIA: The initial link doesn't work anymore, so I only know what's written in this thread. I just wanted to say that I feel sorry for the 11 yr old girl. Ye
46 Thesorcerer: They were on a party, she was drunk and so was the father. Dominic
47 Carmenlu15: I can't find the original article either, but this is a follow-up on the same story: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006220088,00.html
48 BMIFlyer: She should not have been drinking at 11 years old Lee
49 TheSorcerer: That's not the point here. She was drunk, so was he. It's not like he was sober and was a malicious rapist. Dominic
50 Flyingbabydoc: No offense to you Carmenlu, but there are several reasons for a woman to have a very irregular menstrual history and actually remain period-free for
51 Jamesbuk: Has the girl had the baby now then? Rgds --James--
52 Flyingbabydoc: Read reply 6. The baby was delivered at home, had severe asphyxia at birth and died yesterday. Very sad.
53 LTBEWR: The girls' baby died just after birth? God works in mysterious ways.... I do think the authorities ought to go after her parents with child endangerme
54 Carmenlu15: Danke, I stand corrected. Actually I had to visit the doc due to irregular cycles when I was 17. He determined I had several small cysts in the ovari
55 Jap: Hmm... poor, brainless girl... she probably got it from her mother. Either way, I hope this child is taken away from her the second he/she is out of t
56 N229NW: You might be a redneck if: you let your 12-year-old daughter smoke at the dinner table...in front of her kids. --Jeff Foxworthy Anyway, this poor kid
57 RobertNL070: Being a self-respecting gay man I am not very well versed with gynaecology, but is it possible for a woman to be pregnant and still menstruate? Or di
58 CPH-R: @ Reply 50-53 Flyingbabydoc is not talking about the girl mentioned in the first post, at least that's how I make it out.
59 BR715-A1-30: IS there any other way I can read the article... It says Page Not Found.
60 Nancy: Yes, it is not uncommon for pregnant women to continue getting their periods for at least the first couple months, and when girls first get their peri
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