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Taliban Throws Away Rules Of Warfare  
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1004 times:

The U.S. military has been showing photos of Afghan military assets like tanks or helicoptors being deliberately placed by the Taliban right next to (or within the courtyards of) hospitals, mosques, schools. The American challenge: Plink the tank without destroying the building next to it. They show pictures showing that it has been done, but with no room for error.

The taliban are also placing troops in civilian areas, quartering them by force in people's homes in many cases.

These acts are absolute violations of the rules of warfare. Everybody here should tell whoever they meet who complains that the U.S. is too trigger-happy, that the taliban are deliberately trying to endanger their civilian population. By stopping the attacks, we would send a message reinforcing what the terrorists already think of us - that we are cowards with no stomach for real war, as well as providing a nice way of protecting themselves.

Charles

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User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2576 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 949 times:

In my opinion, they've proven themselves to be power-hungry, misogynist cowards already. Why should we expect anything different from them? Oh right, Allah is on their side....silly me, I keep forgetting.

User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 945 times:

I hate to say it, but I have a feeling that we will stop at NOTHING to get them HARD.. The Taliban are COWARDS, doing stuff like that.. This just puts a bad taste in my mouth..

Chris



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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 935 times:

Somebody told me the following. The countries that signed the Geneva convention only have to follow these "rules" of war when dealing with other countries that also signed the Geneva convention. Since Afghanistan didn't sign the Geneva convention, the United States doesn't have to follow it in their war with Afghanistan. True or not?


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User currently offlineBombstar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 932 times:

This is extremely sick and disturbing. I hope the taleban all get killed soon. So much for avoiding civilian casualties.

User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 927 times:

Truth or propoganda?



VH-ADG


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 921 times:

We saw the pictures.

Charles


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 903 times:

Cfalk,

I can't comment on the validity because I haven't seen the pics, but as someone who spends a lot of time making pictures look different I really think people need to take this stuff with a grain of salt.

Also remember that the Taliban propoganda machine is in action as is the American one. People will believe what they want to believe, and to blindly believe what the press says is really a sign of ignorance isn't it?

I've seen the press turn a protest of about 100 into a protest of "thousands" with the use of Camera angles and innuendo.




VH-ADG


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 894 times:

Sure, ADG, you find a way to try to make equivalant the Taliban and the United States. Typical of your warped way of thinking. You obviously think the US is as bad, if not worse than The Taliban, so you're opinion on this is kind of skewed to begin with.

I don't doubt for a minute that these murderers who hide behind their religion, and who have bastardized it would do such a think. They're not trying to fight for Afghanistan, they're trying to hold on to their worldly power, so they can keep Afghanistan in their warped image.

So you can doubt it, ADG. We've come to expect nothing less from an Anti-US, Taliban-sympathizer like yourself. I imagine it to be true.


User currently offlineAussiemite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 877 times:

HAH

propaghanda is more powerful then any bomb america could drop and more powerful than any rock the arabs could throw.

get yourselves an edumecation. oops I mean education.


User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 874 times:

ADG, its quite widely documented how the Taliban treats the Afghai civilians. Since you are surfing the Net reading this, why don't you do a little research and read accounts from Afghani civilians. There are web-sites dedicated to this from credible sources. Personally, I think you are WELL aware of how they operate, you are just turn a blind eye to it because of your diproportional hatred of mighty America. After reading this research, I have found a very deep loathing for people that sypathize with them. They are digusting animals that have no regard for human-lives. How much lower can you get then killing your own people?


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 862 times:

This is nothing new, remember when Saddam placed SCUDD missle sites next to schools?


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User currently offlineWhistler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 857 times:

And Palestinian terrorists that hide in refugee camps...

I think the serbs also did similar things.

You can't really blame the Taliban because if they put their stuff anywhere else it will get taken out in 30 seconds. It is still barbaric though.


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 836 times:

Alpha1,

You have a very warped sense of existance .. I can't say that it really interests me in what you think at all .. there are people in this forum who can hold legitimate discussions, which I quite enjoy. You appear incapable of that.

Your simplistic, schoolyard approach to life was amusing to begin with, now it just leaves me concerned about what the USA is pumping out these days.

The world is not black & white, it's full of shades of grey. You need to go back into your box until you are able to see that.

The fact that we don't think America is not always right, and the fact that I abhor any type of killing at all doesn't make me or anyone else Pro-Taliban .. only the simpleminded would make that ASSumption.




VH-ADG


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 822 times:

ADG,

Unfortunately you do come off as an apologist - "We're not perfect, so we have no right to counterattack".

What specifically would YOU recommend to eliminate the terrorist threat? Please don't say "Re-examine Israel Policy" or something vague like that. Be specific.

Charles


User currently offlineTwotterwrench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 819 times:

ADG - All I can say is thank god your country isn't in charge of our foreign policy. War was declared against our nation and whether you like it or not we are going to retaliate. Just like we did when Japan bombed us in WWII. And just like then, we are going to kick the living daylights out of the murdering cowards who did this to us. It is our right and our duty to do so. Go back and worry about your little island. Okay? We don't need any more cowards here in America.

User currently offlineN400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 816 times:

>You have a very warped sense of existance ... You appear incapable of [holding legitimate discussion].

Hmm... I must say, you have absolutely no room to talk. I read all the rational posts on this thread and then... well, and then there is yours. I don't think Alpha 1 could have put it any better when he summed up your position on this issue. It is despicable, IMO. I believe this following quote sums it up perfectly:

"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." --John Stuart Mill


User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 798 times:

Your quote is no different to the brainwashing that made the Taliban Smile


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User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 793 times:

Airmale, there's really no need to try to play this game anymore. Anyone that didn't appreciate murder, destruction and war more that all of us put together like yourself, wouldn't be on the side of these barbaric animals. I find it amusing how you dance around trying to justify your hatred and jealousy of America, by claiming to be some humanity-loving soul. Its the pinnacle of irony. Its also transparent and tired. If your views are so good, why do you have to make so many BS excuses? Are you afraid you'll come off as a barbaric animal yourself? Well, that kind of goes with the terrortory.


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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 788 times:

I dont hate America, and I dont like the Taliban either, if in your biased mind frame people from this part of the world seem like that, then I cant help it, as for being jealous you are so sadly mistaken Smile


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User currently offlineHSV From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 783 times:

Airmale, you don't hate America?? Then obviously you have no idea what you are typing because ALL of your posts indicate that you hate America. Just because you never say the words "I hate America" doesn't mean you don't hate America.

User currently offline747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2789 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 775 times:

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of! Rules of warfare. That's like Johnny is beating up Jimmy and Johnny says, "ooops, you hit me below the belt, that's against the rules of fighting, hah hah... 'guess I win, huh?" and walks away.

If I were leader of a nation and fighting a war I'd do whatever the hell I could to win the war. War is war. Rules for it just don't make sense. If you have to put your tanks in the mosque, more power to you. In this instance, I say:

Go Taliban!



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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 770 times:

If that's the best you can do in response, ADG, it just proves my point even further. I really don't care what you think of me. The fact is that you say little against the Taliban on here, and their murderous ways, yet you can always find a nasty thing to say about the US says it all. You, Airmale, Hepkat-and a few others, I suspect, whether you like it or not, come off as US-Bashers, and Taliban apologists. You and Hepkat live in free societies, and you, if you're rational, should be on the side of those who try to protect and promote freedom. Yet you give the impression you're on the side of a group of people who treat your gender like dirt. If such an attack ever happened on your soil, you could bet the US, that terrible country that you hate so much, would be at your side, to give you any and all support. Maybe your countries deserve such support, but people like you, Hepkat and Airmale don't.

And Airmale, that quote was completely different from the brainwashing the Taliban put out, because the quote talked about protecting freedom. I know, coming from a country that doesn't know or enjoy such freedoms, that's a hard concept for you to understand. But freedom is precious to us, and we're willing to fight for it, not to give in to drivel like yours, or to surrender our way of life to a bunch of bandits like Bin Laden or the Taliban.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 771 times:

Go Taliban, 747-600X? Are you stupid, boy, or what? Look at it this way. You live in the United States, and you just started rooting for the arch-enemy of your country. Now, turn the Tables. Let's say you lived in Afghanistan, and somehow, got a message out to the rest of the world on a computer saying "Go USA!" First, you'd be arrested for having a computer, and second, you'd be shot dead like a dog for expressing such sentiments.

Now, you still want to root for the Taliban if you look at it that way?

Obviously, you're far too young to understand anything in the world-and being 17 or so doesn't make you a man. I think you better rethink your priorities in this conflict.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 769 times:

I take it you don't mind if we nuke the entire country, do you? Much cleaner and faster.

The rules of warfare have been developed in virtually every society to protect non-combatants. The Taliban and indeed all terrorists use the civilized world's dislike for causing innocent casualties against us.

This should be made very public, so that U.S. forces are not held responsible for such casualties.

Charles


25 Post contains images Aloha 737-200 : Go Taliban! 747-600X, you are disgusting. Takea good long look at the Taliban and tell you you support them. They are the LOWEST of human beings in al
26 Post contains images Aloha 737-200 : GO USA, UNITED KINGDOM, CANADA, AND AUSTRALIA!!!! Aloha 737-200!!
27 747-600X : Okay, you people are a little short of sight here. The post was about the "Rules of War Fare" - a contradiction in terms, if you ask me. So let's say
28 Post contains images Aloha 737-200 : 747-600X, I have nothing against you at all and actually respect you, but what's with this Go Taliban thing? You can't really mean that, can you? Can
29 Post contains images Aloha 737-200 : 747-600X: "revolting subhuman skum" Ok, as long as that's what you think about the Taliban, I take back what I said to you, but if you actually respec
30 Alpha 1 : Boy, 747-600X, you are dense. Like I said, a kid your age doesn't know beans about what's being talked about here: when someone mentions "rules of war
31 VirginA340 : The so called innocent people would've left along time ago. Screw everyone else in that country! We are sick and tired of taking casualties WTC, USS C
32 Post contains images ADG : If that's the best you can do in response, ADG, it just proves my point even further. Really? What point is that exactly? That i'm the big bad evil be
33 Aussiemite : well? when were war rules ever obeyed by? Iraq: NO Vietnam: NO Korea: NO WW2: NO WW1: NO Bore war: NO
34 JonPaulGeoRngo : ADG...let's get some history straight. While its true that the U.S. did not openly repluse Japanese aggression prior to 1941, the U.S. provided Austra
35 Whistler : ADG, how can you bash the US for getting in everybodies business now when you also bash the US for being isolationalists during the beginning of WW2?!
36 Leftseat86 : He did not "Bash" the U.S., merely stated his opinion as to what was true. The U.S. were not fully supportive of AUS until Dec. 7. 41'. What the USA g
37 ADG : ADG, how can you bash the US for getting in everybodies business now when you also bash the US for being isolationalists during the beginning of WW2?!
38 Bove : Hey ADG....now all that's missing is a full-length beard and a one-way ticket to Afghanistan. Why not go join your peace-loving brethren in a cave in
39 Alpha 1 : Ok, let's look at ADG's latest example of post-modern Marxist thinking: I am against US foreign policy that helps Isreal destroy Palestine. There hasn
40 Post contains images Whistler : ADG, On behalf of all the users at airliners.net I am pleased to award you:
41 747-600X : You guys impress me with your own stupidity. No offense to anyone in particular, but when you come at me with "you have no idea what you're talking ab
42 Post contains images ADG : Hey Whistler, You'd have more credibility if you would address the facts rather than show us all that you know how to put pics into posts ... (my 6yo
43 HSV : They were never given that proof. Isn't Osama appearing on TV admitting that he was responsible enough proof? Maybe it was after the US began bombing
44 Dasa : Alpha 1, it is okay if you state your opinion, but do you have to belittle anyone younger than you, with comments like "Your only 17..." etc etc.? Als
45 Twotterwrench : Shut up Dasa. Kids like you are ruining it for everyone.
46 Post contains images Airmale : Dasa-They'll try to use these "Psyche Out" methods to try and make you feel stupid so you stay shut and dont voice your opinion, but dont give into th
47 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Yeah, that's right, Airmale-let them keep posting their anti-American idiocy, which you're constantly in the forefront of. Suits me just fine. I'm not
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