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Auto Work You've Done Yourself  
User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1340 posts, RR: 29
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

I am about due to replace the (non-interference) timing belt on my Mazda MX-5. I've never replaced a timing belt on a car before (most of my experience was with German cars that used chains).

I do my own work often times because I enjoy it and my work schedule affords the time. I'm by no means an expert mechanic (by profession or hobby) but I seem to have better results myself that either with a dealer or independent shops. I'm not against going to a dealer or independent shop but I am disappointed with the work more often than not.

I recently bought a used Lexus with 65k that had been to the dealer for everything down to wiper blades. As I knew all these records existed in the computer system I had the local dealer's service department fax the service info to my office. The woman introducing herself as a service manager faxed me the records and then suggested that I bring in my ES300 for a *rear differential* fluid change  irked   banghead . (For those unfamiliar with the vehicle, the ES300 is just a Toyota Camry with a few minor additions). I gave the woman on the phone multiple opportunities to acknowledge this "mistake" assuming that perhaps she had based her suggestion on the GS/IS/LS service schedule (which being rear drive would actually *have* a rear differential). After confirming that "You are suggesting that I should have you change the rear differential fluid on my front wheel drive ES300?" I thanked the woman for the service records and ended the phone call. I had to assume that the dealer was at best dishonest and at worst incompetent.

Without going into further details (unless requested) I've had even worse (and repeated) experience with the BMW dealer.

I was thinking about some jobs that I have done both routinely and exceptionally. Some of these are barely jobs but since I was making a list I added them for completeness (although I am sure I am forgetting some things).

Oil Changes
Engine Air Filters
Cabin Air Filters
PCV Valves
Brake Bleed/Fluid
Clutch Bleed/Fluid
Clutch Slave Cylinder
Brake Rotors
Brake Caliper Rebuild
Brake Lines
Brake Master Cylinder
ECUs (I almost called this an EEC. Time to get away from work for a bit.)
Pneumatic Shift Actuator (FSAE car)
Shocks
Springs
Suspension Bushings
Control Arms
Radiators
Coolant Flush/Replacement
Thermostat
Water Pumps
Timing Belts
Intake Manifolds
O2 Sensors
Exhaust/Muffler
Window Regulators
Light Assemblies (interior/exterior)
Accessory Belts
Various External Trim Pieces (Damn BMWs)
Alternators
Hoses
Electrical Harnesses
Door Panels/Interior Trim
Batteries
Wipers
Door Handles/Locks
Transmission Fluid Changes
Gear Oil Changes
Rear Differential Fluid Changes
Engine Teardowns (FSAE car)
Transmission Teardowns (FSAE car)
Spark Plugs
Plug Wires
Ignition Coil Packs

I wouldn't say I have a wealth of experience but I'm curious as to how my list compares to the norm. Share your own...


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User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

I just changed the deodorizer hanging from the rearview mirror.
Took me about a couple of hours to do the job.

UTA  checkeredflag 



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User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 1):
I just changed the deodorizer hanging from the rearview mirror.
Took me about a couple of hours to do the job.

Pine Tree or New Car smell?


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

Quoting Molykote (Thread starter):
Auto Work You've Done Yourself

I fuel it up by myself, but only because there are no full-service stations here in Germany.  Wink

Patrick


User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 2):
Pine Tree or New Car smell?

None, Wild Madagascar Vanilla  Smile

UTA  checkeredflag 



Fly to live, live to fly - Air France/KLM Flying Blue Platinum, BMI Diamond Club Gold, Emirates Skywards
User currently offlineMrChips From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 927 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

Quoting Molykote (Thread starter):

I wouldn't say I have a wealth of experience but I'm curious as to how my list compares to the norm. Share your own...

For 6 years, I owned a couple of old Volkswagens...

...meaning I rebuilt both of them several times over.

In addition to wear items and consumables (filters, belts, spark plugs and fluids)This is what I have done thusfar:

'87 Cabriolet

Heater Core
Power steering pump
Rear brake drum -> disc conversion
Front + rear brake pads and rotors
Front + rear shocks + springs
Completely rebuilt right front suspension stemming from hitting a curb at 50 km/h
Rebuilt all 4 CV joints (a royal pain in the a$$)
Tie rod boots
3 fuel injectors
New camshaft + 2 hydraulic lifters
Replaced both fuel pumps + fuel accumulator (For those of you who want to experience a new level of terror, get a car with Bosch CIS fuel injection)
Replaced clutch and cable + rebuilt shift linkage (A surprisingly simple job)
Entire exhaust system
Lots of rust removal and general bodywork

Got the car free, sold for $4000.

'89 A2 GTI

Rear drum ->disc conversion
Added Corrado front brakes
1.8T engine swap and 02A manual transmission, plus making a hybrid wiring harness
New high-flow exhaust system
Changed three coilpacks
Competition FK suspension front + rear
New rims
Minor bodywork (filling in dings and fixing scratches)
Removing extra weight from interior (basically, everything other than the dash and front seats), relocating the battery to the trunk - this removed almost 200 lb. from the curb weight.

Got the car for $2000, sold it to a friend (who still owns it and autocrosses regularly) for almost $6500.

'89 Merc 560 SEC

New rear struts - and thank God that's it so far - one rear strut cost as much as all 4 FK coilovers for the GTI.

The only thing I didn't do to any of the cars was to the GTI - I had a VW performance shop re-flash the ECU of the new engine - something that requires special equipment and very detailed knowledge of engine mapping (neither of which I have).

[Edited 2006-05-16 10:09:19]


Time...to un-pimp...ze auto!
User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

I've just changed the front brake discs and pads on my Brava. Other than oil/filter/plug changes there isn't much one can do on an engine these days without specialist tooling.

I also recently had to do the rear drums and shoes on my Punto, as my local "independent" garage f**c**d the self-adjusters (to get the car through its annual MOT check) which caused the shoes to suddenly come away from their anchor positions and just hang loose in the drum. Luckily, I had only driven about 50 yards from home when it happened.  Angry


User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6686 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

At various times on VW Beetle, Golf Scirocco and Renault Megane.... and most of the battle is having the right parts...

Brakes, disks/drums, plugs, oil, filters (usual stuff)
shock absorbers (Beetle, Scirocco, Golf)
cv joints (all cars at some stage)
O2 sensor (Meg)
power steering pump (Meg)
timing belts (Scirocco, Megane (2 now))
Throttle housing (Megane) Expensive part and it was only the pot that had gone.

Had to have someone else do the cylinder head gasket on the Megane recently. At least they gave me a courtesy car.



wheat and dairy can screw up your brain
User currently offlineKevinL1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 48
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

Impressive list, however replacing an air filter on an ES300 is cake compared to a Chevy Venture. Try changing the battery on a 2000 Chrysler Sebring. Try replacing the windshield washer bottle on a 2001+ Chevy Silverado. Your MX5 for instance. Try replacing the alternator. Sure it unbolts easy enough, but then there's not enough room to get it out.

Let's take a look at your list of performed repairs and rate some of the operations on a difficulty scale of "Man" or "Pussy" dependent on the car you're working on:

Brake Bleed/Fluid. MAN: 1991 Regal w/ABS. PUSSY: 1991 Civic
Clutch Bleed/Fluid. MAN: 2001 Camaro. PUSSY: Any Toyota
Clutch Slave Cylinder. MAN: Ford Ranger4x4. PUSSY: Celica
Brake Rotors. MAN: 1991Accord. PUSSY: Any FWD G.M. car
Brake Caliper Rebuild. MAN: Corvette. PUSSY: Cavalier.
Brake Master Cylinder. MAN: Astro w/hydro-boost. PUSSY: 90's Accord.
ECUs. "ECU" is GM of the 80's, "EEC" is Ford. Chrysler calls it "PCM". GM now has ECM,BCM,IPCM, dependent on function.
Shocks. MAN: Rear Audi Quattro. PUSSY: Any GM Truck.
Control Arms. MAN: 2wd 4-Runner.PUSSY: Any 2wd GM Truck.
Radiators. MAN: Dodge Intrepid. PUSSY: 93 Civic.
Coolant Flush/Replacement. MAN: 1993 Grand Cherokee. PUSSY: Civic.
Thermostat. MAN: 2000 Intrepid. PUSSY: 1990's Chev Truck
Water Pumps. MAN: 1994 Calais 2.4L PUSSY: Caravan 3.3L
Timing Belts. MAN: Lumina Z-24 PUSSY: 90's Civic.
Intake Manifolds. MAN: Q45 PUSSY: Mustang 3.8L
O2 Sensors. MAN: Explorer. PUSSY: Civic
Window Regulators. MAN: Saturn. PUSSY: Maxima
Accessory Belts. MAN: Contour. PUSSY: Any G.M.Truck
Alternators. MAN: V6 Contour. PUSSY: Any GM Truck
Electrical HarnessesMAN: Caravan B+ battery cable. PUSSY: Ford Truck B+ Cable
Spark Plugs. MAN: V-10 Econoline. PUSSY: BAFDT  
Plug Wires. MAN: Chevy Venture PUSSY:. Toyota 4-cyl.
Ignition Coil Packs. MAN: 1991 Lumina 3.1L. PUSSY: Lumina 3.8L

So....Are you a MAN or PUSSY ?
If you can do the T-Belt on an MX5, That qualifies you as a Man.
Only your vehicle knows for sure.   

[Edited 2006-05-16 11:36:55]


474218, Carl, You will be missed.
User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1340 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

Quoting KevinL1011 (Reply 8):
Impressive list, however replacing an air filter on an ES300 is cake compared to a Chevy Venture. Try changing the battery on a 2000 Chrysler Sebring. Try replacing the windshield washer bottle on a 2001+ Chevy Silverado. Your MX5 for instance. Try replacing the alternator. Sure it unbolts easy enough, but then there's not enough room to get it out.

I've started to just remove parts rather than weasel into a place that my body isn't welcome (radiator in this MX-5 alternator case). At least Lucas didn't make the alternator  bigthumbsup  - else I'd install quick disconnects on my radiator/coolant lines.

Since you appear to be quite experienced with cars you might enjoy this:
http://www.hummingbirds.net/lucas/index.html



Speedtape - The asprin of aviation!
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1812 times:

Nothing on my new car. Will leave that one for the professionals. But on my old car, I installed my own CD player, changed the brakes, replaced perished fuel lines, minor panel beating, change the rocker cover, changed the crank angle sensor.

User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

On my grand am all i've done was oil every 3k, then brakes and a tire rotation, Also did plugs,wires air cleaner and did a coolant flush.

On my 3.1 Lumina i've dont radiator and water pump. oil soon.



Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1792 times:

Check Oil, Transmission, Windshield Washer, fill it with diesel.

Otherwise, it goes to the shop . . . .


User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1784 times:

Built a kit car (Caterham Seven).

On a Land Rover 90 I used to own:
Did an engine conversion (from 3.5l V8 to 2.8l Isuzu TD)
Replaced brakes
Wheel bearings
Axles
Drive shafts
Seats
Chassis members
Just about everything on the car got replaced at some stage...

BF



Fortune favours the brave
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

ANCFlyer - diriving a Ford, I bet you have done lots of auto work yourself.  duck 

User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 47
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

I dented my own fender by sitting on it.

Signed, KROC



"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 14):
ANCFlyer - diriving a Ford, I bet you have done lots of auto work yourself.

 no  no  no  You have me confused the drivers of Dodge POS Pickups . . . I don't even know why they're considered real trucks . . .  duck 

Here's a little sumthing for you KROC my friend . . .

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/csmpep/icon_fU.gif


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 17):
Here's a little sumthing for you KROC my friend . . .

Lol. Easy there Hartman. I'm a Ford guy myself...even though I currently roll a Pontiac. Just breakin balls.  mischievous 


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1763 times:

Only some work: New headers, redid the entire intake (including manifold), installed lowering springs (took 12 hours), installed a chip in my computer to free up some more HP...


Go big or go home
User currently offlineA332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

I've done all sorts of mechanical repairs on vehicles over the years, especially back when I was poor and I had no choice but to do it myself...

I have completed repairs ranging from whole engine/transmission swaps to alternators, brakes, suspension, minor/major tuneups... etc... not much I have not had experience in repairing on a car!

Now that I have newer vehicles under warranty, I let the shop do it all!  Wink



Bad spellers of the world... UNTIE!
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

I threw some ducktape on the frame ERRRRRRRRRR sole of my Converse All-Star...but thats it.

Signed, LHMark


User currently offlineEWS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

I changed a window wiper once!

Lew  laughing 


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

Quoting Molykote (Thread starter):
Auto Work You've Done Yourself

emptied the ashtray
Filled the washer fluid
put air in the tires (tyres)
filled the gas tank
oh,

I've also changed a tire (tyre)!


User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1340 posts, RR: 29
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 14):
ANCFlyer - diriving a Ford, I bet you have done lots of auto work yourself.

Fixed
Or
Rebuilt
Daily

And to show that I'm an equal opportunity basher....

Italian
Retard
Out
Cruisin'

Bring
More
Wwallet

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 18):
Only some work: New headers, redid the entire intake (including manifold), installed lowering springs (took 12 hours), installed a chip in my computer to free up some more HP...

What type of car?



Speedtape - The asprin of aviation!
User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1714 times:

Quoting Molykote (Reply 23):
What type of car?

99 Mustang...I'm about to get rid of it in the next month or so...



Go big or go home
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

I love to work on other people's cars, especially when they drive upper class limos.

Signed,

LOT767-300ER


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