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Motorways Vs Freeways  
User currently offlineBa757gla From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 760 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1089 times:

motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

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User currently onlineGordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 2102 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1087 times:

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

Is that a statement or a question?



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1087 times:

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

So what's that got to do with Freeways?  Wink



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User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4532 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1073 times:

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

Presumedly you are discussing the condition of the road surface (?) then motorways in the UK, at least those south of Watford, are generally better than those in Belgium and north-east France.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 2):
So what's that got to do with Freeways?

Well that's because motorways in the UK are free, innit?  Wink

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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2387 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1067 times:

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 3):

Well that's because motorways in the UK are free, innit?

there's no such thing as a free lunch


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1044 times:

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 3):
Well that's because motorways in the UK are free, innit?

Well, with two exceptions, there are no toll roads in Denmark either - and boy do we feel it at the pump Sad


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2387 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1043 times:

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 5):

Well, with two exceptions, there are no toll roads in Denmark either - and boy do we feel it at the pump

yes, while we still have the world's highest taxes


User currently offlineBa757gla From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1024 times:

IM SORRY , whats better a american freeway or a motorway

User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3011 posts, RR: 47
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1004 times:
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Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 7):
IM SORRY , whats better a american freeway or a motorway

It probably depends on how you define "better". In absolute terms, you could say that American freeways are better because they are larger/wider, but they have more traffic. You could say that a British motorway is better because you drive on the left  duck  and because you can drive faster... it depends on how you look at it, and what specific motorway/freeway you're talking about. Probably Los Angeles CA vs Bournemouth will be different than Jackson WY vs London.

I've driven on both and don't find any of them better or worse.

-Manuel



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 988 times:

British motorways, A roads, and B roads are in MUCH better condition than most American freeways (interstates) and US and State highways.



One thing's for sure.... Our pickups and SUV's handle those potholes quite nicely.  Wink

Mark


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4304 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 984 times:

I've travelled in US 'freeways' and not so free ways... and they are not pot holed like that. Maybe in a few spots, specially around construction, but nothing like that picture even if it's pretty bad.


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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2387 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 970 times:

In Denmark, the government will pay for the damage your car got due to a hole in a road if it is depper than a certain depth (8 cm I think it is), and if you tell them where it happened.

User currently offlineA319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 950 times:

I do remember driving somewhere in California on a freeway and they had just re-surfaced it.
The problem was, they didn't re-surface it under and on bridges (through a town), so every time you drove there the whole car vibrated like mad from the bad surface!


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 936 times:

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

Innit bruv.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 933 times:

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

Ever been to Germany? Some Autobahns here are horrible, only two lanes in each direction, bad condition of the roadway, etc.

Patrick


User currently offlineA319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 931 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 13):
Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

Innit bruv.

The new surface on the M4 East of Bristol is quite nice - you don't notice how much over the speed limit you're going Big grin


User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 921 times:

Ba757gla - your posts always seem to be just one statement. Do you have any opinions of your own on any of these matters, or is it just 'verbal' (well, posting) diarrhea?

User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 921 times:

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

And you got your RR of 1 how exactly?! The only way I can imagine is you bought the dam thing of eBay. Isn't a persons RR meant to be a good representation on how much they know about the aviation industry, and how they can help answer questions on this site to do with aviation??
It seems to me its become more of a popularity thing, and that gets me thinking, I still don't know how you for the RR of 1 for the stupid threads you start!!  banghead 

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User currently offlineOldman55 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1525 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 910 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 9):
British motorways, A roads, and B roads are in MUCH better condition than most American freeways (interstates) and US and State highways.

Where the H@## was that picture AsstchiefMark??? I sure hope I don,t ever have to travel on that road with my 12 year old Geo Prizm  Wow!



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26442 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 908 times:

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 8):
In absolute terms, you could say that American freeways are better because they are larger/wider, but they have more traffic

It depends on where you are. Interstate and Interstate-Standard highways often go down to 2 lanes in each direction when driving through sparsely populated areas. Having done 6 ultra-long distance drives and several other shorter ones, I can detail that if you want

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 9):
British motorways, A roads, and B roads are in MUCH better condition than most American freeways (interstates) and US and State highways.

That pothole picture is definately not the norm. Also, not all freeways are interstates, though they will normally be up to interstate standards if called a freeway. The freeways in California are in the overall best condition of any roads I have ever been on, including the Autobahns in Germany. New Mexico's freeways are also in excellent condition in my experience.

Quoting A319XFW (Reply 12):
I do remember driving somewhere in California on a freeway and they had just re-surfaced it.
The problem was, they didn't re-surface it under and on bridges (through a town), so every time you drove there the whole car vibrated like mad from the bad surface!

What you were driving on was slury-sealed road. The freeway system in California is primarily made of grooved concrete as opposed to asphalt because it lasts much longer and is less prone to flooding and slickness after a brief rain storm. Asphalt does, however, provide a smoother ride. After 30 years or so, the life of concrete can be extended 10 years by applying a slury seal of ashpalt over it (you can usually do this 2 or even 3 times). The thing is, they leave parts of the concrete uncovered, which is why you felt that "bad surface". In fact, that surface is just fine, it just doesn't ride as smoothly as the slury sealed surface

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 14):
Some Autobahns here are horrible, only two lanes in each direction

Plenty of major highways are only 2 lanes in each direction. This happens when they pass through less heavily trafficed areas.



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User currently offlineA319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 896 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):
The freeways in California are in the overall best condition of any roads I have ever been on, including the Autobahns in Germany

I must contradict you there - the freeways in California are some of the worst 'fast' roads I've been on. You can tell there is money in Nevada, as the roads get better there.


User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 877 times:

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 17):
Isn't a persons RR meant to be a good representation on how much they know about the aviation industry, and how they can help answer questions on this site to do with aviation??

Not if you are a girl, you get an RR of 14 within days of joining or 66 in just over a month, when you only spend time in non-av or chat !!!.

Defeats the whole purpose of the RR IMHO.

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User currently offlineBDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 865 times:

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 16):
Ba757gla - your posts always seem to be just one statement. Do you have any opinions of your own on any of these matters, or is it just 'verbal' (well, posting) diarrhea?

Perhaps Ba757gla aims to provoke an individual's reaction to a certain thought or statement by leaving it up to the individual reader to interpret the statement in whatever way he/she chooses. Please don't be so dismissive of others.

By the way LeonB1985, you might want to check out the dictionary for the correct spelling of Diarrhoea.

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 17):
And you got your RR of 1 how exactly?! The only way I can imagine is you bought the dam thing of eBay.

Who do you think you are? There's no need to be such a patronising, condescending git!

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 17):
Isn't a persons RR meant to be a good representation on how much they know about the aviation industry, and how they can help answer questions on this site to do with aviation??

Have you failed to notice that the poster has started this thread in the NON-AVIATION forum?

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 17):
I still don't know how you for the RR of 1 for the stupid threads you start!!

Get over yourself, and a by the way for you too, I think you also should brush up on some English lessons!



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 865 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):
Plenty of major highways are only 2 lanes in each direction. This happens when they pass through less heavily trafficed areas.

In the USA, yes, but you can't compare that to Germany. We have 2-Lane Autobahns in the middle of the Ruhr Area. It is a joke, a traffic jam is more than predictible.

When I worked in Dortmund, I always made sure that I was on the A40 (B1) before 7am, I am not the "morning guy" but I prefered to get up at 6:30am rather than getting up at 7am but spend another hour in a traffic jam.

Patrick


User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 851 times:

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 22):
By the way LeonB1985, you might want to check out the dictionary for the correct spelling of Diarrhoea

And you might also want to check out the dictionary (Oxford English Dictionary, if that's of interest), which points out that the spelling 'diarrhea' is equally acceptable.


25 BritPilot777 : I'm actually suprised I have not had more people agree with me, but seeing as though I've got someone whose taken what I said to heart, let me respond
26 Post contains links and images BDKLEZ : You mean this Oxford English Dictionary which clearly states that your version of the word is a US variant and does in no way suggest that "diarrhea"
27 LeonB1985 : I just said the version I used was equally acceptable. Whether it is a US variant or not (OED.com makes no reference to it being one) is irrelevant!
28 BDKLEZ : Listen guys, in order to get back on topic, I'll explain in short. If you have an issue with the quality, relevance or otherwise of an individual's p
29 Post contains images LeonB1985 : BDLKEZ, glad to see the issue of my spelling, which you raised, was cleared up. I'm sorry if it upset you in any way. And back on topic: I personally
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