Texan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4274 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4012 times:
I-20 through West Texas should be like the Autobahn: drive as fast as you can. It is boring, there is nothing there, and it leads to absolutely nothing. Might as well increase it to 80, the state troopers don't pull you over for doing it.
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ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3984 times:
Quoting Texan (Reply 2): I-20 through West Texas should be like the Autobahn: drive as fast as you can. It is boring, there is nothing there, and it leads to absolutely nothing.
We bailed outta El Paso and headed east, when I-10 split off it was like no mans land forever. Michelle slept, and I cranked up that BMer of her's to 100mph plus . . . and it was awesome. Climbing into the mountains was very cool. I stopped once - picture time. Clear, beautiful out there and you could see forever. . . like a damn John Wayne western. Nothing but miles and miles of miles and miles. Saw one Texas Trooper . . . when I was at a gas station . . .
Bushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3921 times:
Having never been there, I dont know the entire landscape, but from what I understand huge stretches of straight flat highway, let em as fast as they want. Cue up the Darwin Award theme music is all I will say.
Edited to add, this was my 800th post, what a way to use it. Worthless.
Tom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3902 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4): when I-10 split off it was like no mans land forever.
Very true.....but I'll take the I-10/I-20 west Texas drive any day over the I-10 north Florida drive any day of the year. Nonstop pine trees up to the side of the I from east of Pensacola most of the way to J-Ville. At least in Texas you can see further than 50 yards from the road.
Quoting Texan (Reply 2): the state troopers don't pull you over for doing it.
My boss would likely beg to differ.....he was bringing back a car from Arizona and got busted for speeding west of Abilene. Of course, the fact it was a brand new black Dodge Charger might have had something to do with it.
Tom at MSY
"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3828 times:
My state rep here is Arizona introduced a bill to raise the interstate speed limit in rural Arizona to 80 twice in the last couple of years. Didn't go anywhere, the insurance lobby, DOT, all raised a stink..
I agree. I dont see the problem driving 80-100mph on a empty dry highway. Now if there is traffic or the weather is not good than it is just stupid. The autobahn seems to do fine why cant we atleast have the empty highways in the US have a limit up to 80mph. I does not make much of a difference to me as I will be doing 80+ all the time but it could save me from a big speeding ticket and make traffic flow a bit more smoothly and safely since drivers wont be afraid to drive a little bit faster.
I really would love to take my car on a autobahn type highway now that would be fun.
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Theredbaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3791 times:
Id say that most people doesnt know how to drive safely let alone drive fast safely.
Tons of cars DO NOT have brakes to stop from 100mph to zero in a panic situation or a fast stop.
You can see that in a lot of so called "sport cars in the USA, that have counterparts in Europe, where they get proper equipment due to higher autobahn speeds.
A loaded SUV @ 90 mph is an accident waiting to happen let alone the gargantuan gas consumption.
a perfectly survivable accident in a normal sedan "Camry class" will not be in a high SUV like a LR or a navigator, because most of the time they will roll over... In MExico a LOT of people drive over the century mark in SUV, the accidents are very often fatal and quite nasty.
Yep driving fast is quite fun, but you need a proper sport car to drive over 90 most of the time....in SUVland it will only make more death stats and higher gas wasted to the air...
People who drive Navigators or Land Rover Discoveries over 100 are not the smartest people but not all SUVs are meant to be driven only under 100. Take my SUV for example a Volkswagen Touareg, The truck wieghs 5,500lbs empty, but its an SUV which you can take up to 120-130mph if you really want to. I have driven it at high speeds and I have driven a Mercedes CLK at high speeds also and I felt much more comfortble driving the Touareg at high speeds than the CLK, better breaking more stable less wind noise in the Touareg. I know of people who have takent he Touareg up to 140mph on the autobahn of course.
Other SUVs which can be driven at high speeds unlike the normal SUV are, Mercedes ML, X5, Range Rover Sport, Jeep SRT8,Porsche Cayenne. But I would never drive a large full sized SUV at high speeds. I would not even feel confortble driving a Ford Mustang at high speeds. There are just some cars which are meant to go fast and others which just should not.
Germans know how to make great cars. Meant for those German highways at high speeds.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3761 times:
Quoting Texan (Reply 2): I-20 through West Texas should be like the Autobahn: drive as fast as you can. It is boring, there is nothing there, and it leads to absolutely nothing. Might as well increase it to 80, the state troopers don't pull you over for doing it.
Been on that Highway many times as well as I40. Raise it already. I do 90 anyway and I go long periods of time without seeing anybody! New Mexico is just as bad. I think when it's daylight it should be 85 in some spots.
Itsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3749 times:
I just drove from the L.A. area to Houston (Thurs a.m. to Fri a.m.). Took I-10 all the way. Most TX drivers were doing the posted limits or below and I passed sporadic patrol cars parked on the shoulder. Maybe I just hit an off day but I didn't notice anyone doing any 80mph driving.
Speaking of TX, what gives with that difference in the speed limit from day to night? In some areas, it was 70 during the day and 65 at night (others it was 75/65). A 5mph diffrence?
Quoting Pope (Reply 3): Just one more example that people like to bitch about high gas prices but don't really want to do anything to reduce consumption.
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3734 times:
Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 22): Speaking of TX, what gives with that difference in the speed limit from day to night? In some areas, it was 70 during the day and 65 at night (others it was 75/65). A 5mph diffrence?
There is a big difference between day or night. Your visibility is cut down big time. If you were doing 90 in the dark on I40 and an animal was crossing the highway you would have no chance at stopping. When I drive to Nevada every winter I try to do all of my driving with the sun up. Remember no street lights out in the middle of nowhere and even with the best HIDs you still have limited visibility at night.
: I've done the I-10 ELP-SAT drive too many times - actually lost some of belongings on the road the last time I drove it (I was trying to cram all of i
: Really? There's a big difference between day and night? Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for bringing that to "light". Hey, do you suppose that's wher
: Been on that stretch many times! I tell ya I like the stretch of 95 between Searchlight and Vegas. You can really go down on the pedal. The stretch f
: Call it what you'd like but when I say 70mph and you post back and use 90mph to try and make a point, that's embellishing. If in fact the posted limi
: Completelly agree the Touareg and The Cayenne have Big brakes standard due to their european design. They even ower themselves after getting over 45m
: I haven't been that way in awhile, but the last time I was on that road (probably 5 summers ago), it was only 1 lane each way, meaning you had cross
: Sometimes I see why it is so nice to live in Germany While we, in fact, have speed limits in urban areas (around 50% of the network might have limits,
: I think 85 would make sense I mean it's 75 now outside the city limits. You should drive on it now! Been a lot of changes. From Laughlin to Searchlig
: Call it whatever you want. Even with a higher speed limit, people will speed and still produce revenue as you call it.
: Yeah there is. NIKV69 is exactly right. The deer come out in force after dark and if you try and keep up even the legal 65 you're going to have an un
: Definitely. I always get a kick out of these threads about driving. Definitely. I've often read some American a.netters' wishes for better driver edu
: Add to that list that Germans are generally great on moving out of your way with a slight flash of high beams. We had that happen somewhere north of
: 100% I could not possibly agree more. Signed, 90% of the Americans who complain about the price of gas! It was a mere ticket and not a felony arrest?
: Oh no doubt! I have circled the country every winter for the last 5 years in my car and trust me if I am still on the interstate after dusk I keep it
: If he was doing 242 mph, he didn't get a ticket. That's at least a misdemeanor. I'm not sure if this varies by county, but at least in some counties
: It becomes a felony at 25MPH+ over the speed limit. Should have been arrested and hauled off with his car left sitting by the side of the road for a
: The cops were probably trying to figure out how to work one of those into their budget for the next year! lol My question would be what did they have
: This same thread is on another (police) forum, and they have some good points as well. Driver's training is a joke here in the US. The following is th
43 Tom in NO
: Oops, forgot about that place.....and we gotta keep the caverns at Sonora in mind, as well . Tom at MSY
: I'm listening to Marty Robbins "El Paso" right now. If West Texans wants to drive 80 send em up here to drive the New Jersey Turnpike. I disagree. I d
: You claim you disagree, but you have presented nothing that backs up your view. In fact, you've only inadvertently supported his view even further by
: I don't need you to show people I'm an idiot, I can do it myself. I believe in conservation especially in the cause that it's our best way of controll
: I quoted Top Gear there, so I don't know what the precise circumstances were, though I would imagine the person got arrested. IIRC, anything more tha
: Which, in fact, is a criminal offense. So this can be a very expensive behaviour... A good car uses less fuel at 120 mph than a SUV at 60mph...
: Ah yes, American arrogance at it's finest.
: We're talking about Texas. There are no good cars here, just lots of huge trucks and SUV's mixed in with a few American muscle cars for good measure.
: Ah yes, American inability to comprehend how any vehicle can move above the posted speed limit.
: Nope, I copmprehend it just fine. According to you, that's all cops do is drive above the posted speed limit. Speed limits are there for a reason. Do
: I-10 is even worse Except that there are many cars, mine included, that turn in better economy at higher speeds than the posted speed limits. I have
: But. The autobahn is built WAY better than our highways.. It's much thicker, almost no potholes/debris/problems.. Driving fast isn't a problem becaus
: Yeap, this is something else I'll gladly wave my own hypocrite flag for. For the most part I LOVE to cruise @ 80 on the TPK (and I-4 occasionally) wh
: It appears as though the U.S. Department of Energy disagrees with you: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/3863416.html May 15, 2006, 5:
: Bit off topic, But on the LA freeways the limit is 60mph? but i have read on alot of forums that when its not gridlock you can go as fast as you want.
: Hmm, didn't know that. Just noticed a lot of people doing it, so we tried it ourselves and it worked Legally, no. Possibly, sure.
: Let me ask you. Are the Germans arrogant as well. You know, the autobahn?
: It's not fuelconservation, you waste more gas at 80MPH
61 Tom in NO
: Done that route starting at Flagstaff when returning from the Grand Canyon back in '99.....with our (at the time) 4-month old daughter. That would up
: N1120A, I am a little confused by your post above: Drag increases as the square of wind velocity. At 80 mph, the drag on your car is (6400/3025) or a
: Oops, I made a mistake . At 80 mph, you would have covered a mile in 55/80 of the time, so the mpg only increases linearly. In other words, your fuel
: In fact, each engine has a certain envelope inside which it is most efficient. However, if you drive a car in the highest gear (Ok, you guys mostly ha
: Our Grand Caravan is very stable and drives like it's on rails at 115. Fuel economy was not good... When I scan in a picture, I'll show you what it lo
: I don't know any Germans and, therefore, don't feel I am qualified to answer your question. That being said, if they share the same attitude as Gilli
: Just to put some perspective: Mexico City to Acapulco with my Mom and a Niece, took it slowly and drove all the time at 65mph, One tank 55 Liters and
: Hardly. I already wrote letters to my city asking for limits to be raised, unsuccessfully...too bad. Speed Limits on open interstates especially West
: Lower speed limits do not make highways safer. Proper driver education and adherance to the lane designations (right lane=slow lane, left lane=fast la