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Axl Rose Of Guns 'N' Roses  
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

So here I am, checking out AOL's client program. (Or is it host program? I can never remember.) You can probably access it at http://www.aol.com, too. And they have this write-up on Axl and what the hell he's been up to lately.

(GNR's cover of Dylan's "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" is playing XM Radio as I write.)

So, who else liked GNR during its heyday?

It's certainly seen better days.

Nothing quite as good from them since: (1) Welcome to the Jungle (2) Use Your Illusion I, and (3) Use Your Illusion II, the latter two being concurrently released.

Loved the track for Terminator 2 from II.

Best ballads from GNR: "Sweet Child of Mine" and "November Rain". Excellent.

[Edited 2006-05-17 02:25:08]

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User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
So, who else liked GNR during its heyday?

Well, I was still very young when they hit their stride, but I certainly enjoy (most of) their music. All the songs you mentioned are classics, but I'd also throw in their cover of "Live and Let Die", which, I think, is vastly superior to the original by Paul McCartney and the Wings. Their best album was definitely Appetite for Destruction--very few of the tracks suck and it's G'n'R in it's purest form.

Personal All-Time Favorite: "Paradise City" Mmmhmmm.  Silly

Airwave  eyebrow 



When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1259 times:

Great songs, each!  Smile

Basically, their style was hard rock with a point, and with style. I mention "November Rain" because it has a coda that's like no other. The entire song is a preamble to the coda, in a sense. The triumphant ending -- the climax -- tells us that the universe has a purpose; that struggle makes sense, and that one cannot -- one can never -- stop trying.

I put it right up there with Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries".

Rock on, dude.  Smile


User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
I put it right up there with Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries".

That flopping sound you hear is Wagner rolling over in his grave at about 700 rpm
I guess if you like G&R you like Wagner too...bleaaaaagh.


 crazy   crazy   crazy 


User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1245 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
I mention "November Rain" because it has a coda that's like no other.

The piano is pretty amazing too, considering G'n'R really didn't use it much otherwise (if at all).

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
The entire song is a preamble to the coda, in a sense.

Good point; very well put, lol. The only other song I can think of that is in any way comparable is ELO's "Fire on High". It's the same thing: coda like no other with the rest of the song as preamble.

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
Rock on, dude.

Oh, I will. I will.  Cool

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 3):
I guess if you like G&R you like Wagner too

Now I'm curious: What in Hell would it sound like if someone mashed those two together? Hmmmm...

Airwave  eyebrow 



When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1244 times:

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 3):
That flopping sound you hear is Wagner rolling over in his grave at about 700 rpm
I guess if you like G&R you like Wagner too...bleaaaaagh.

 crazy   crazy   crazy 


LOL. "I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like..." irony.

 Wink

With apologies to Francis Ford Coppola.


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

Just saw your reply -- thanks, Airwave! I appreciate it.

We'll see if Axl Rose can do a comeback. But even if he doesn't, it doesn't matter to me. I'll always remember the GNR of yore.  Smile


User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1239 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
I mention "November Rain" because it has a coda that's like no other.

It's a good coda, but it's not the greatest. Check out a little thing called "Master of Puppets"  Wink



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4802 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1218 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 7):

haha yeah true... GNR is great tho, November Rain is such a kickass song! Metallica still rules the hard rock world.
Last time GNR and Metallica played together there was a riot! (ok so it was because they cancelled the show halfway thru because the pyrotechnics burnt one of the bandmembers) I would have loved to have seen those 2 bands together!



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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

The new G'n'R will be heading to Roskilde this summer, and I'm pretty curious to see if they actually last to play this year (they were supposed to play here in 2001 too but that was cancelled). We had Velvet Revolver here last summer and boy did they tease us, playing the intro to different G'n'R songs before switching to the real song (I'm pretty sure I heard the intro to 'Paradise City', 'Welcome to the Jungle' and 'Sweet Child o' Mine'). They did play 'Mr. Brownstone' as well as 'It's So Easy'.

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1192 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
So, who else liked GNR during its heyday?

I saw GNR as an opening band during the "Appetite for Destruction" Tour...they were pretty amazing back then..

too bad their hubris got to them....oh well....



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineVaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1191 times:

Guns 'N' Roses.....are one of the greats from way back!!! I love their music!

Phyllis  bouncy 


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1164 times:

It's a shame that there seems to be a bit of a feud between Rose and Slash, though. Purely a guess, but it could be a clash of egos. That's certainly not unknown in the world of music.

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1146 times:

G'nR and Axl Rose in particular are a poster child for fame and fortune leading to over-inflated egos. I enjoyed Guns when they first came out. I even owned a rare live EP they released prior to Appetite. But I refuse to give one penny more to Axl Rose.

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

It's not an uncommon problem; people start believing their own PR, IMHO.

And artists tend to be emotional people, so that certainly doesn't help.

One hopes that they'll set their egos aside one day. After all, if Simon & Garfunkel could do it....  Wink

(By the way, I have no idea whether Simon & Garfunkel suffered from ego-related problems; I'm just presuming.)


User currently offlineMigFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1137 times:

Used to love them as a teenager. Their music still rocks, although I would have to call them "The world's best cover band".

Too bad Axl is such a tool...  blockhead 

/M


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1136 times:

Quoting MigFan (Reply 15):
Too bad Axl is such a tool...

LOL.  Wink

You've got to admit, though, that the guy had vocal chords of steel.  Smile


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1103 times:

Mr. Brownstone, Sweet Child O'Mine, You Could Be Mine...AHHHHH such good songs.


Go big or go home
User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1100 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 14):
One hopes that they'll set their egos aside one day. After all, if Simon & Garfunkel could do it....

Hell, if Pink Floyd could do it - for one concert only, granted, but still.


User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1717 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1087 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 10):
saw GNR as an opening band during the "Appetite for Destruction" Tour...they were pretty amazing back then..

I actually had occasion to meet and talk briefly with Axl Rose many years ago at a party in California. Truly one of the most arrogant egotistical people I've ever had the displeasure to interact with.

That being said, I think "Appetite for Destruction" is genius; one of the best albums ever. Their subsequent stuff isn't nearly as good.



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User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1083 times:

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 8):
haha yeah true... GNR is great tho, November Rain is such a kickass song! Metallica still rules the hard rock world.
Last time GNR and Metallica played together there was a riot! (ok so it was because they cancelled the show halfway thru because the pyrotechnics burnt one of the bandmembers) I would have loved to have seen those 2 bands together!

Actually, James Hetfield got burned by the pyrotechnics and of course, Metallica cut their set short. GNR then refused to go on stage because of some Axl Rose temper tantrum. That's when the riot broke loose. I'd be pissed too.

My favorite GNR song is "You Could Be Mine." But I still think Metallica was a better band than GNR in their respective heyday.


User currently offlineJaws707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 708 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1083 times:

GNR is currently playing 4 "warm up" shows in New York, and their European tour is scheduled to start at the end of the month. From what I hear the warm up shows are going really well. The European tour has about 25 dates, so hopefully after the tour they will finally release their new album, and with any luck come back to the US for a fall tour. We'll see what happens. Also Velvet Revolver is working on their 2nd album, so I would say the chances of Axl and Slash reuniting are pretty much zero.

User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1077 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
So, who else liked GNR during its heyday?

Hell yeah! I still listen to their music today.

Quoting Airwave (Reply 1):
Personal All-Time Favorite: "Paradise City" Mmmhmmm.

This one and "Welcome to the Jungle" describe Los Angeles so perfectly.

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 19):
I think "Appetite for Destruction" is genius; one of the best albums ever.

Their release was a welcome departure from the big hair metal power ballads of the late 80s. Don't get me wrong as I love hair bands to this day (Don't judge me!) but they had run their course. GNR brought rock back into the mix to counter the wussified acts of Poison, Def Leppard, and even Van Halen/Haggar. They weren't afraid to party, rock hard, and be general troublemakers and it was great. I have reservations about the upcoming release of "Chinese Democracy" and whether it will hold up to their previous releases but I'll give it a listen at least once.



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User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1075 times:

A friend of mine works for the music division of Warner Bros and heard a preview of the new Guns'n'Roses album "Chinese Democracy". He says it's probably their best since Appetite For Destruction and is full of excellent songs and classic G'n'R sound. I for one can't wait to hear it.

Welcome to the jungle, we've got fun and games...  Smile


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1063 times:

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 23):
He says it's probably their best since Appetite For Destruction and is full of excellent songs and classic G'n'R sound.

How can that be, if none of the original G'nR musicians are in it? Slash had a unique style, and Izzy wrote great hooks.


25 IFEMaster : Pretty easy really. There are plenty of people around who can play and write like Slash and Izzy. I'm a working musician when I'm not in the office a
26 AerospaceFan : Wow! Now I'm looking forward to their new tour. If I go, it would be the first live rock concert for me since Pink Floyd's Momentary Lapse of Reason c
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