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Do You Think That This Is Police Abuse?  
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

According to the following story, a nice, innocent couple was thrown in jail for eight hours -- for asking directions?

See:

http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/9229472/detail.html

Does this make sense to you? Obviously there needs to be a further investigation. If it's true that the couple was thrown in jail for merely asking for directions, then something is seriously wrong!

[Edited 2006-05-19 04:29:04]

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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

There's probably more to the story, since we are only getting the couple's side of the story here. We'll just have to wait and see.

Harry



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3288 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

There are two sides to every story, and this article is completely one-sided. I'll make a judgement when I actually hear the officers' testimonies.


"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7386 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2110 times:
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Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
then something is seriously wrong!

That's what I was thinking........
"Collins said police left Kelly's car unlocked and the windows down at the impound lot. He reported a cell phone charger, pair of sunglasses and 20 CDs were stolen."
Sounds like Baltimore to me.



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3288 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2110 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 1):
There's probably more to the story, since we are only getting the couple's side of the story here. We'll just have to wait and see.

Damn Harry, great minds think alike  Wink



"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2102 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4):
Damn Harry, great minds think alike

Haha, very true.  cool 

Harry



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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2096 times:

I'd like to know the officers' account, as well. And see and hear the tape from the dashboard-mounted camera from their squad car, if they have one.

There's got to be more to the story, surely?


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

Baltimore City police arrested a Virginia couple over the weekend after they asked an officer for directions.

Does this just sound too damned elementary to be the bottom line????

When I see "the rest of the story" I'll comment further. . . .


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2038 times:

Who do you think you are? Paul Harvey?

 Wink

We all need to keep an open mind. And even if the story is true, it shouldn't color our perceptions of the police, most of whom do a great job under the worst of conditions.


User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2011 times:

Without the officers side of the story, I would trust the officer used good judgement in the situation. I have personally watched a calm situation turn into a full on dangerous situation. Who knows what really happened.


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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

It sounds like what the cops did was fishy, but we still need to hear their side of the story.


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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12163 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1996 times:
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Same topic, different forum. Interesting viewpoints. http://forums.realpolice.net/showthread.php?t=52028


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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1969 times:

Something sounds fishy...

From the article: "I said, 'Thank goodness, could you please get us to 95?" Kelly said.

"The first thing that she said to us was no -- you just ran that stop sign, pull over," Brook said. "It wasn't a big deal. We'll pay the stop sign violation, but can we have directions?"

Wait... he asked the cop for directions.. before pulling over...

How exactly does that work?

There seems to be a lot of pulling over, pulling next to and screeching up to people in that story....


User currently offlineYYZflyer From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 3642 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

"city officer arrested them for trespassing on a public street"

how do you trespass on a public street?

Some police will do anything to arrest people. I'll wait for the official report before I say more.



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 2):
There are two sides to every story, andrnthis article is completely one-sided. I'll make a judgement when Irnactually hear the officers' testimonies.

Concur. OTOH, he deserves a ticket for getting lost leaving an Orioles game. All the exits from the parking lots have very clear signs indicating how to get to 95 or the BW Parkway.

And as a resident of Virginia, if he went to Baltimore without first doing a little advance planning - like looking at a map - then shame on him.


User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

Police officers are no different than anyone else. Some cops are good, some are pricks. It's no different than teachers, lawyers, bankers, even journalists like the one who wrote the article.

I agree the story is obviously one-sided, however I'd be VERY interested to hear the cop's version of the story. These would have to be two completely different stories.

Say tourists' account of the story is correct? What happens to Officer Natalie anyway?

G


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 2):
There are two sides to every story, and this article is completely one-sided. I'll make a judgement when I actually hear the officers' testimonies.

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Definitely a one-sided article. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there's a lot more to this story.





-NWA742


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 14):
Concur. OTOH, he deserves a ticket for getting lost leaving an Orioles game. All the exits from the parking lots have very clear signs indicating how to get to 95 or the BW Parkway.

I must admit that when I went down to Camden Yards last summer for a game with a friend, we parked in a garage a few blocks away (near a hospital, I think?), and after the game we got lost in Baltimore too for a bit trying to get onto 95 North...



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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

Quoting USAFHummer (Reply 17):
I must admit that when I went down to Camden Yards last summer for a game with a friend, we parked in a garage a few blocks away (near a hospital, I think?), and after the game we got lost in Baltimore too for a bit trying to get onto 95 North...

Getting lost or failing to find the right way out is easy in quite a number of parking lots, and particularly those that have roped-off areas that block existing exits in the name of valet parking.


User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3266 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

I've had the pleasure of asking a Baltimore cop for directions, when the street I was supposed to be on was being blocked by his police car. Not only was he a complete ass, he didn't help me out one bit. Try taking a large truck thru Baltimore, at night. 99% of the streets there are not supposed to be used by trucks, and you don't see the signs until you are already on the road.


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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Baltimore's reputation isn't exactly shining in this thread....

User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 48
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

Cops look for people who are "out of place" in inner city neighborhoods. Ususally, they've come in to buy drugs. We have yet to hear if this had anything to do with the arrest. The story as told seems a bit ludicrous.


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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 21):
Cops look for people who are "out of place" in inner city neighborhoods. Ususally, they've come in to buy drugs. We have yet to hear if this had anything to do with the arrest. The story as told seems a bit ludicrous.

It does, doesn't it?

Let me also take this opportunity to say that one thing about officers is that there is a difference in physical standards between police forces that I've noticed. New York cops are very different from L.A. cops, for example. I have never, ever seen an out-of-shape L.A. cop, and I live here full time, while I must say that some of the members of the NYPD I've seen on television do seem to be physically less than prime.

The NYPD is a much larger force than the LAPD, so I wonder if this has something to do with it.


User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 48
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 22):
The NYPD is a much larger force than the LAPD, so I wonder if this has something to do with it.

That, and LA seems to be a more image-conscious city than most.



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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 23):
That, and LA seems to be a more image-conscious city than most.

L.A. and California cops are some of the smartest-looking in the world. Even some of those in small towns. Always with the well-fitting uniforms, and their cruisers and cycles showroom sharp. You're right.


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