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Iran Eyes Badges For Jews And Christians - Hoax  
User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4988 times:

Shocking?
No not to me, I mean I have compared them to Nazi Germany before, and I will do so again.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/n...fbf4a8-282a-4d18-954f-546709b1240f
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3252830,00.html

Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims.

"This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis."


I am growing increasingly disturbed at just how far they are willing to push it...

Boaz.


"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4982 times:

I can't wait to hear the Iran supporters defend this one.

Sadly, I'm not very surprised either at this one.

Harry



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4982 times:

Didn't the Taliban want non-Muslims to register or something at one point? Sounds a lot like Hitler's playbook is in effect in Iran.

Do they plan on leaving out the gays and gypsies from wearing badges?

[Edited 2006-05-19 18:12:09]


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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4971 times:

I'm not defending them... but...

Are there any Jews even left in Iran?



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4967 times:

I was just posting this . . . beat me by 30 seconds . . .

"Oh, Iran's a peaceful nation though"  sarcastic 

And, it's a law that was just passed, not something that surprises me . . .


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24907 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4955 times:

Perhaps there should be badges for Muslims in Europe and the USA as well?  Confused


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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4955 times:

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 3):
I'm not defending them... but...

Are there any Jews even left in Iran?

Nice, make excuses instead.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20375 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4948 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 2):
Do they plan on leaving out the gays

We're already marked with good taste in fashion. Stand out like a light.



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User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4936 times:

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 3):
Are there any Jews even left in Iran?

Yes there are!
Iran (Persia) used to hold some of the oldest and most admirable Jewish communities, now how ever...

According to:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/jewpop.html

Iran holds 20,405 Jews I am unaware of how many Christians or other religious factions live in Iran.

But man look at the PR value, I mean is he acking for Jews to respond or what?!

Boaz.



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4936 times:

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 3):
I'm not defending them... but...

Are there any Jews even left in Iran?

You are not defending them, we know.  sarcastic 

Read the story, which I have found that you dont do, and it gives some nice figures of 'only' 25,000 Jews in Iran. But wait, they are also forcing Christians and Zoroastrians to badge themselves. Beautiful government of Iran, only looking for the well-being of its people.


User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4926 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
We're already marked with good taste in fashion. Stand out like a light.

Yeah but I am guessing they don't last that long, last two convicted are dead already.

Boaz.



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20375 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4915 times:

Quoting Windshear (Reply 10):
last two convicted are dead already.

Hmm, yes, I understand that screaming, "Sweetie, that frock is to die for!" could be a quite literal statement, sadly.



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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4911 times:

Quoting Windshear (Reply 10):
last two convicted are dead already.

You forgot to mention that those bastards executed teenagers for being gay. I think the oldest was only 16!


User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4903 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 12):
You forgot to mention that those bastards executed teenagers for being gay. I think the oldest was only 16!

Yeah exactly  Sad

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):

Hmm, yes, I understand that screaming, "Sweetie, that frock is to die for!" could be a quite literal statement, sadly.

 Big grin

Boaz.



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17338 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4895 times:

Didn't they also just reneg on their decree that women could now watch football games?


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User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 800 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4874 times:

I dont think its true. I looked all over the place and cant find any reference and i dont know these two publications linked. Im not looking to defend Iran's govenment because it does some bad stuff like capital punishments for things that arent really crimes. But i am interested in the truth and im not interested in stuff that has been made up for political ends.

User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4756 posts, RR: 31
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 15):
I looked all over the place and cant find any reference and i dont know these two publications linked.

I just found 18 links about the subject in Google News, including one from United Press International.



What do I know, I'm just an 'immature troublemaker with only a passing interest in aviation' (or so they say)
User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4860 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 6):

Nice, make excuses instead.



Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 9):
You are not defending them, we know. sarcastic

Christ, chill out you two. The reason I ask this is because I thought after 1948, all the Jews were kicked out of the country. Why would I, a JEW, defend this action from the government of Iran?

Of course, you jump to conclusions and just make asses out of yourselves.



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4855 times:

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 17):
Christ, chill out you two. The reason I ask this is because I thought after 1948, all the Jews were kicked out of the country. Why would I, a JEW, defend this action from the government of Iran?

Maybe people should have looked at your profile before flaming you....


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4848 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 5):
in Europe and the USA

as Iran is just a country and NOT a continent, I am sure you meant Scotland and the USA ?


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4848 times:

"...peaceful farmers!!!"

- Kathy Griffin



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User currently offlineTWAMD-80 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1006 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4843 times:

I can't say that this surprises me.

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 12):
You forgot to mention that those bastards executed teenagers for being gay. I think the oldest was only 16!

They also executed a teenage girl for sleeping with some guy. She was hanged and the guy got a beating or two.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 5):
Perhaps there should be badges for Muslims in Europe and the USA as well?

There would be a shitstorm if any western country tried to do that. We'd probably see more embassies burn just like when the cartoon was released. But I guess it's ok for Iran to  confused ??

TW



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24907 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4843 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 19):
as Iran is just a country and NOT a continent, I am sure you meant Scotland and the USA ?

Sure, that'll do  Wink



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User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 800 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4833 times:

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 16):
I just found 18 links about the subject in Google News, including one from United Press International.

Well i havent heard of any of these publications including United Press International. If it was true and from a reliable source it would be on RTE, BBC and a whole load of other reputable news sources that I use. I doubt ill even hear of it again. Its just that kind of sensationalist unfounded crap that appears now and again on less reputable sources but quickly dissappears because its not true.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4824 times:

Quoting TWAMD-80 (Reply 21):
if any western country tried to do that.

Any such country would, just as "Windshear" has outlined above, be copying Nazi-Germany. That Iran DOES do so, already is bad enough. And, it just is the famous "tip of the iceberg". Look up what may happen to the whole Iranian population, IF that law becomes effective.


25 Post contains links Cfalk : But... but... wait for it... YES!!! He went ahead and did it... You just can't help yourself, Tbar, can you? There are some 20,000 Jews in Iran, acco
26 AeroWesty : I'm stunned. It's only been around since 1907.
27 Dtwclipper : It was just on Fox News here in the US![Edited 2006-05-19 19:14:35]
28 Post contains images Newark777 : So it's not true because of your own ignorance. Harry
29 DeltaGator : I think you'll find that the BBC gets some of their feeds from the UPI. Perhaps you would like to continue your arguement that the UPI isn't a reputa
30 YAK42 : Wowee. But ive still never heard of it. Maybe its mostly American orientated or something. But I like to use the RTE,BBC,ITN and some other mainstrea
31 ME AVN FAN : I for once fully agree in something with you but but I think you can wait quite a while for "it", if "it" means somebody who defends A) the part of t
32 Post contains links Dtwclipper : Man you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper: Welcome to UPI Since 1907, United Press International (UPI) has been a leading provider of critical
33 AeroWesty : RTE is only mainstream because of where you are. UPI has been a freely-accessed international news source for 99 years.
34 ANCFlyer : You don't get around much do you?
35 ME AVN FAN : And why single out the Jews and the Christians ? It also affects millions of Iranian city-dwellers / town-dwellers, who for ages were used to modern
36 Dtwclipper : I would have to agree with you, this is bad news for all Iranians. However, lest we forget there is some historical sensitivity issues here about Jew
37 YAK42 : Thats their blurb. I do get around alot actually. And I know made up non news when I see it.
38 TWAMD-80 : I certainly do recognize that. TW
39 Dtwclipper : Are you just digging in your heals to make a point? Have you ever read a newspaper by line? How often does news in your local paper come over via UPI
40 Carmenlu15 : Funny, UPI is widely known as a reputable source of international news even in this small corner of the planet. Oh well...
41 AeroWesty : Yeah, actually, I understand. All that rock-tossing in N.I. for 30 years didn't happen either, because I didn't see it myself, and my favorite report
42 Mir : Wow. I guess those who deny history are doomed to repeat it. Well, on the bright side, Iran keeps daring the rest of the world to get involved. I'm su
43 Windshear : Exactly! Jews are a minority all over the world, except for Israel of course, that is why I think many jump when they hear this, no matte which minor
44 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Apparently not as much as you think . . . but that's neither here nor there, you've been beat to shreds here and you continue to babble . . . It's qu
45 Windshear : Yeah well we have all talked about the Iranians before, I have even posted pictures of a 17 year old gay boy with a neuse around his neck... This is
46 YAK42 : Yes seen alot of sources but never this one. Never. Like I said maybe its a US organisation that your local papers use but its not used much this sid
47 Dtwclipper : That's BS. All local rags use the wire services of UPI, AP, Reuters, Etc.
48 Post contains links YAK42 : Yes heard of reuters and Associated Press but not UPI. http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/archive/ Its not there. I dont really use CNN either but I cant
49 Post contains links DeltAirlines : Just like RTE is unheard of on this side of the pond. Thus, using your logic, since I've never heard of it, it's irreputable. Either way, I hope the
50 Dtwclipper : Well, you learned something today, didn't you. Just try doing a google search...Belfast + UPI and see what you come up with![Edited 2006-05-19 19:57:
51 YAK42 : "Canadian officials were trying to verify the claims", "Should these reports turn out to be true", ""only seen reports" about", "unconfirmed reports t
52 YAK42 : Wow news from Belfast. Well if it didnt have news from Belfast, it would be a crap news agency wouldnt it. Lots of news happens in Belfast unfortunat
53 Tbar220 : So why then did you post this earlier? This is what I was responding to.
54 AndesSMF : OK, you are correct, that was uncalled for from my part. I apologize for that one. But we should get back to the subject at hand, until further confi
55 Tbar220 : Of course, we agree on this as well. The only reason I was asking was because I found it ironic that they would do this to Jews because I thought the
56 Post contains links Jaysit : A 2003 Report on religious discrimination in Iran http://www.fidh.org/asie/rapport/2003/ir0108a.pdf Iran only recognizes 3 minority religions - Zoroas
57 DeltaGator : Then go pay them a visit. I'm sure the Iran "Weird Beards" will welcome you with open arms and give you a badge to wear while you're in country. Tigh
58 Post contains images CastleIsland : Looks like it's time to be friends with Saddam Hussein again. Oh, wait...
59 Post contains links PROSA : Now there are claims that the story is untrue: http://rawstory.com/showoutarticle.p...ews.com%2Flocale.php%3Fnews%3D2512
60 Jaysit : Here's a good one: Queen Elizabeth, George Bush and Ahmedinijad died and all went to hell. The Queen said: "I miss England. I wanna call England and s
61 Windshear : G-d I hope you are right! Boaz.
62 DeltaGator : Now that's pretty damn funny! Perhaps they floated the idea out there as a test. Upon seeing the reaction from us A.nutters decided it was not a good
63 Falcon84 : See user YAK42. End of story. Yes, which is why, while building nukes, they're threatening to nuke Israel. But hey, I guess Israel doesn't count, doe
64 Post contains images Windshear : Good point my man! They should listen to us you know? Boaz.
65 Post contains links AndesSMF : Here is additional information from the (in)famous Debkafile: http://www.debka.com/
66 Post contains images AirTran737 : Crazy assholes. Iran is dangerous, these radicals must be stopped.
67 PROSA : It's owned by Rev. Sun Myung Moon.
68 Falcon84 : So what? It's a trusted, reliable newsource. It has been for 100 years.
69 DeltaGator : Sadly true. I would hazard a guess that the majority of the Iranian population don't agree with the policies of the Mad Mullahs running the joint.
70 L1329II : I agree. Just think how far Saddam would have taken it if he had the chance to do so...
71 Max999 : Not surprising considering the government in Iran is run by a bunch of ultra conservative religious fanatics.
72 RJpieces : A year ago, several A.netters would always jump in these threads and defend the horrendous Iranian regime...Funny how they no longer post in these thr
73 Georgetown : This YAK guy is hilarious. I don't think I've ever witnessed someone be so incorrigible. UPI is one of the elites.
74 Post contains images Migfan : And to think these guys want to build nuclear weapons. How far are the liberals going to take this double standard? HELLO, these are not nice people r
75 ME AVN FAN : a detailed report about it, showing various aspects : - Iran's conservative MPs turn to fashion design AFP Monday May 15, 06:57 PM * * * * By by Hiede
76 ME AVN FAN : well, I do NOT remember many people defending the Iranian regime. People only oppose war against Iran. THAT is something of a difference. ----- A) No
77 Migfan : I do not think Israel or even N.Korea would ever use atomic weapons. I think Kim Jong Whats-his-name is full of it, but I have a feeling the Iranian
78 ME AVN FAN : - Israel DOES use its nuclear capabilities as a threat behind the curtains. Nothing proveable and nothing documented, but fairly well known. North Ko
79 AndesSMF : Thank you for you additional post, MAF. I was waiting for someone to address all aspects of this proposed law, to which labeling other religions clot
80 Post contains images LTU932 : And I was hoping most of the world had actually learned their lesson from religious/cultural/racial profiling. I guess I was mistaken. I can fully ag
81 YAK42 : " target=_blank>http://rawstory.com/showoutarticle.p...D2512 At least I didnt believe it unlike alot of gullible people who would have loved it to be
82 Piercey : Well then you learned something new. Either way, explain to me why one of the Western nations can't send in spies and kill the b@$t@rd???
83 Falcon84 : Theory? Actually closer to fact. When a nation goes around openly threatening others, like they've done to Israel and the U.S., you're more Nazi-like
84 Dtwclipper : Well Yak, here's something for your morning coffee. 1957 Pulitzer Prize - Russell Jones wins for international reporting for his 1956 coverage of the
85 ANCFlyer : Now, where's that knock out punch when you need it . . . . . Well played Clipper.
86 Luv2fly : Let me be the first to second that!
87 Falcon84 : Say what? You're concerned about Iran tightening their control on what their citizens wear, but you don't even show any concern on them possibly send
88 YAK42 : Well no, Im not familliar with Pulizer either. Im sure its really big over there but that stuff doesnt make news over here and as far as I know newsp
89 Newark777 : Again, just because you are ignorant and not aware of the happenings of the world does not make it fact. Harry
90 Post contains images YAK42 : typical comment from you.
91 MigFan : Re-adjust your thinking. I only see the Israelis building settlements and not suggesting that other nations be "wiped off the map". Iran's President
92 Post contains images ANCFlyer : OK,this is way too much bullshit . . . hell, even Communist Russia knew what a gawddamn Pulitzer was . . . unles you've lived on Jupiter (do you know
93 Dtwclipper : I give up with you...you say you are a student and a waiter, if I were you, I'd stick with the wonderful world of fast foods, because you refuse to l
94 Newark777 : He's obviously just repeating things he's heard from others. "The US media is bad," etc, etc... Harry
95 N766UA : Are you shitting me?!! I guess you've never heard of the Nobel Prize either? How about gravity? Are we familiar with gravity or is that just a pompus
96 FSPilot747 : Haha so is ours.
97 YAK42 : US media has a bad reputation in Ireland, Britain and the rest of Europe. Ive heard of the US media. I know well the US has a media industry. But why
98 Post contains links SQuared : There are some questions regarding the validity of the reports. The National Post, one of Canada's leading papers, and one of the papers that reported
99 Dtwclipper : Not at all. I'm an American, lived in Europe and I am familiar with Tass, Agence France, etc, have you heard of them? Me fail English? That's unpossi
100 YAK42 : Fair enogh but Ive not lived in your country. It may not be obscure to you living in the US but it is over here. Some US media is a running joke here
101 CXA330300 : OK. Ahmenijad has gone too far. Lets teach him about the Holocaust or Apartheid. Or kill him off. Or ship him to rural Mississippi. The UPI is a very
102 Dtwclipper : Your right, all Americans are idiots, have no clue, and have sh%t for brains. The Belfast Telegraph News is the leading source for the worlds media,
103 Dtwclipper : Thank you CXA!
104 YAK42 : Care to find me an article cause Ive never come across it. Im really not trying to attack it but its just Ive not seen it. Yes im familliar with Reut
105 Post contains links Dtwclipper : See "international" newspapers. http://library.ons.gov.uk/Companion/news/news.htm#News%20Agencies Please post your apologies below.
106 YAK42 : Er yes... I said an article. I dont know what that is. Is that what you took all that time to find?
107 Post contains images Falcon84 : Then don't tell us how much you freaking get around. The Pulitzer IS NOT an American thing, and it's known world-wide. And you want us to take you se
108 Dtwclipper : Uh, no, I just took the dog out, and came back and saw your post.
109 Post contains links Dtwclipper : Yak, Here is probably the most famous UPI dateline in history. It was flashed to every news room in the world. http://www.historyofklif.com/images/UPI
110 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : if in charge there, I of course would change priorities and methods and strategies quite thoroughly a very nice idea. also rural Texas would be fine
111 Post contains images Mir : I'd appreciate some clarification on this. I'm a liberal, and I'm not happy about what's going on in Iran. The sooner there's regime change over ther
112 ME AVN FAN : I am quite sure that most people, any most presumably also a majority of Iranians, would love to see that regime toppled. BUT either by democratic pr
113 Greasespot : Hmmm it seems that both CNN,msnbc, and fox news no longer are posting this story..... The BBC never posted it. HMMM....wonder if it happenend GS
114 Falcon84 : If it's all-out war, I think it will be the fault of their government, and probably wish they HAD had a revolution.
115 Jetset25j : This is sickening, seriously how far does this nut job regime need to take things before the whole world starts to blink and do something? Is he doing
116 ME AVN FAN : I am NOT interested in whose fault it may be or will be. I am just interested in A) that this regime gets overcome at the earliest and B) without war
117 Stirling : I just took a stroll over to the RTE news site. Under the World news section, there are 4 (four) news stories. 1. Truck crash in Turkey kills 40 2. Cl
118 DeltaGator : Guys I'm going to go out on a limb here and maybe offend some folks but I think Yak may have had too much whiskey or suffered some sort of potato ove
119 QANTAS077 : gotta love how everyone says it's sickening and dispicable, it's pretty sickening that news media actually peddle crap that isn't 110% accurate and yo
120 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Iran=make itself a place for tourists?
121 AndesSMF : Now, surely you cant be serious! You mean I can go to some great Iranian beach and check out some hot bikini-clad Persian women! We have reached the
122 QR332 : Its on the news, so it must be true! Please... what possible motive could Iran have behind doing such a thing? Ever asked yourselves that? I don't bel
123 Post contains links QANTAS077 : they've changed visa regulations and made it easier to enter Iran, try reading the report on this site about recent trips to Iran. but produce the pr
124 L-188 : Yeah but you need to book for a 440 night stay if you do go there.
125 Post contains links Windshear : You are right my friend! http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3252934,00.html Iran: Yellow badge report false Iranian lawmakers hurried to disav
126 Pawsleykat : I thoght it was now against international law to brand people like this. After WWII, the UN or something like that said it was against people's human
127 Cfalk : Back that up. What western countries require you to wear something to identify your religion.
128 ME AVN FAN : Ever heard of Messrs Martin Luther, Calvin, Zwingli ? Ever heard of Jean-Jacques Rousseau ? Ever tried to compare Calvin,Zwingli,JJR with Abdel-Wahha
129 Post contains images RobertNL070 : Funny you should say that, but ......
130 Post contains images ANCFlyer : 444 to accurate I'm not exactly what I'd call a sheep, but, once again this morning the story is on CNN . . . now it does say that rather than the ea
131 Cfalk : Stop trying to sound educated and spell it out. What western country TODAY requires or promotes religious branding? 500 years ago doesn't count, and
132 Post contains links Dtwclipper : Now, from the New York Times, Parliament is debating a bill that would discourage women from wearing Western clothing, increase taxes on imported clot
133 Post contains images Cxsjr :
134 Dtwclipper : Shall we make a reality check. Those are prisoners, has nothing to do with their religion. It is standard throughout the US military system. If a US
135 Mir : War is sometimes necessary. But if there is to be a war, there must be proof that the benefits will outweigh the costs by a significant margin. That'
136 YAK42 : Do you realise how ridiculous you sound. Real news for you: The US is not the world! I have looked this Pulitzer award up and it is indeed a largely
137 Pbottenb : Those gentlemen in cammos can be any religion, the asshole in the orange suit is just a terrorist...
138 Dtwclipper : The point is, the Pulitzer is one of the most respected journalism awards in the world. If you have no idea what it is, then admit it, and learn some
139 Cxsjr : ... not until proven so in a recognised court of justice. Not that I for one minute side with Iraq/Iran etc but everyone has a right to democracy, is
140 Post contains images AndesSMF : Boy, dear boy, learn. Let me perhaps start by giving you the names of our biggest airlines, since you have no incentive to know these... One of the h
141 Post contains images L-188 : There are blackout days that apply
142 Pbottenb : Im not in disagreement with you, but the bottom line is, well, how can I put this...We are still really pissed off about certain events in the last 1
143 Wrighbrothers : We all know what happend last time we ignored this religious segrigation (if that's the right word). Fist Iran want nuclear technolagy, fine, then we
144 Post contains images Falcon84 : I think that also applies when they change "accomodations" for you during your stay. Ahem...
145 Post contains links Csavel : From the Herald Sun of Melbourne, don't know where they picked it up, or what the story is, but... Basically the only Jewish MP in the Iranian parlaim
146 NoUFO : How many liberals want Iran to possess nukes? Man, I believe that's what liberals are saying since Reagan had his Iran / Contra scandal. Ahem, in one
147 Cxsjr : And you have a right to be pissed off, as have we, but ever heard of the phrase 'two wrongs don't make a right'? As for this, it's a big deal when it
148 Post contains images ANCFlyer : What horseshit. . . . he's a prisoner . . . he's dressed that way because he's a prisoner not because of any religious affiliation . . .try again. Pr
149 Post contains images Dtwclipper :
150 Post contains images Cxsjr : I'll tell you what's horseshit, weak as hell, locking people up for over four years without any sort of a trial. If they're guilty of terrorism, tell
151 Post contains links Ilikeyyc : Sudan does have oil. http://www.ecosonline.org/
152 Falcon84 : Stop trying to change the subject at hand, or start your own thread about how bad us Americans are. This is about Iran, and what it is. Nothing else.
153 Post contains images ANCFlyer : You still haven't shown me the answer to my question. Some weak assed, half baked, limp dick attempt at    When you can show me the answer, we'll t
154 L-188 : Agreeed we should have executed them on the battlefield, which is permitted by the Geneva convention for "Unlawful Combatants"
155 Post contains links Schoenorama : Another great hit for Benadir & Associates, me thinks! And the vast majority of above posters fell for it! Wishfull thinking? "Jewish MP denies Iran b
156 Post contains links and images QANTAS077 : you gotta admit that the photo is pretty disturbing to say the least, especially since nobody has been to trial or "kangaroo court" yet. anyways, tha
157 L-188 : It's a pudnucker on a stretcher....big flippin woop!!! That's not disturbing. A shot of Hillary getting a Bikini Wax...that would be disturbing. Elen
158 NoUFO : Benador Associates, sorry for nitpicking, but you are right, the story smelled fishy. At the same time, I could imagine the Iranian government coming
159 ANCFlyer : I didn't say it wasn't disturbing - and in fact, I don't find it to be such - which is rather irrelevent in this context: the photo was presented as
160 Post contains links Schoenorama : You are right, my bad! According to the latest AP article, it isn't actually an enforceable law but much more of an incentive: "The bill does not cal
161 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Damn skippy, I'll admit it . . . I'm glad to know I was wrong in this case . . . . That said: Wth all the bizarre crap flowing out of Iran in recent
162 N766UA : How the hell was anyone supposed to know it was propaganda? You fall for a practical joke... oh ha-ha you got me... you don't fall for a serious arti
163 Post contains images QANTAS077 : do me a favour mate, go get the CORRECT translation of his comments... i've got it sitting here in front of me, it doesn't read like that at all. bit
164 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Well, Partner, publish it . . . I don't speak Farsi, hell, I barely manage English according to the Brits here . . . we won't even talk about you guy
165 Post contains links and images Schoenorama : All of which is completely true, of course. /sarcasm I didn't climb on any podium, ANC. It was you and a motherload of other users who by blindly bel
166 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Prove it wrong . . . Prove they're not enriching uranium . .. Prove they've not declared a desire to eliminate Israel from the map . . . Oh, and for
167 Aleksandar : OK guys, did anyone of you thought how many Western embassies are in Iran at the moment. I'm sure that every single one of them has somebody who monit
168 NoUFO : But Ahmadinejad did not object to the Imam's (Khamenei's?) wish to see Israel vanishing; in fact the President said in Indonesia that Israel "can no
169 Post contains links and images QANTAS077 : i was trying to but i couldn't find the link to save the post getting deleted. doh but schoenarama has covered my butt, that's the link i was looking
170 QANTAS077 : read it in full...then read it again to make sure it's crystal clear....
171 ANCFlyer : I read what you posted and what Schoenorama posted . . . and the way I read it . . . . well, my sentiments haven't changed . . . I interpret the word
172 NoUFO : It is crystal clear and it always has been crystal clear, thank you. And now I hope you make crystal clear (on second thoughts: "clear" would be enou
173 QANTAS077 : note the word regime...its pretty clear to me that they want the Israeli govt out of Jerusalem, nothing is said about mass murder, refer to Ariel Sha
174 Post contains links AndesSMF : For Gods sake, man, dont be so dense! Jeez, might be the same thing that Hamas and Hezbollah want, just a 'change in government'. http://news.bbc.co.
175 NoUFO : That's one of the worst cases of "splitting hairs" I ever came across, sorry. Which Israeli "regime" would Iran kindly allow to exist, if I may ask?
176 Dtwclipper : That is not correct, under the Shah, Israel and Iran had very close relations. THR was a large operation for LY. It is since the Islamic Revolution t
177 NoUFO : All right, yes, I should have said since the fall of the Shah, who wasn't any better (apart from the fact his regime recognized Israel), though.
178 LOT767-300ER : This thread scares me. Let me tell you why. Because not only do I agree with ANCflyer (I actually agree with him on almost anything that is not police
179 Post contains links Soyuzavia : If you are gonna go off at others Falcon, then perhaps you should get some facts straight - the same goes for ANCFlyer. The two of you dribble so muc
180 ME AVN FAN : your start-question is empty rethoric ! Spell it out : What Arab country requires or promotes religious branding ? none What Latin American country d
181 Post contains links and images Schoenorama : Shouldn't it be up to those who make the accusations to prove that they are right? Prove that they are enriching uranium for military purposes. Your
182 Pbottenb : two wrongs dont make a right, but three lefts do....
183 Post contains images NoUFO : I neither work as a translator, nor as bean-counter or hair-splitter. The ability to read implies the ability to understand what the author actually
184 Post contains links and images Oldeuropean : " target=_blank>http://about.upi.com/ Oh yes, very reliable. Since 2000, UPI is owned by the Unification Church. "The Unification Church is among the
185 L-188 : If it makes you feel Better, Helen Thomas, that lawn-gnome looking woman that has been a member of the White House Press corps for about the last 40
186 Post contains images Oldeuropean : If you read my link you could have read: Thomas stated she resigned because of News World's ties to Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church. So, there`s
187 Post contains images YAK42 : Erm ..by reading it and thinking about it for a second then looking for it on a reliable news source perhaps. Ask anyone around here about it and you
188 Post contains links Schoenorama : Since when is sticking to the actual facts splitting hairs? Exactly! Is it? Was 'Saddam's regime" (so often mentioned before the invasion of Iraq) a
189 L-188 : At leawst they aren't owned by the sciencetologists eh?
190 Post contains images Oldeuropean : The difference would be: UIP wouldn`t be owned by a ultra conservative but by a fascistic organisation. In both ways no reliable source. Axel PS. Don
191 Windshear : Ok guys... I am quite angered by rumors like these, because they filled me with anxiety, some of which is enough to make you blind, I think. I want to
192 NoUFO : In this case, facts are the result of interpreting language. Hence, there is no such thing like objectivity. You are seeing Mr. Ahmadinejad's speech
193 RIXrat : I've been gone a week so I missed all the excitement. I was a United Press International (UPI) correspondent for 17 years, starting in Washington, D.C
194 YAK42 : Just like there is "nothing wrong" with FOX News reporting?
195 Dtwclipper : Fox/Sky News is a network. UPI is a wire service, that is the basic difference. Please just give it up already, your just not making a case here. How
196 YAK42 : Im pointing out that it just doesn't seem a reliable news source in light of that erroneous report. Unwarranted rants? Well excuse me but its not me
197 Falcon84 : Well, it is; it's been around for 100 years, covering stories around the world, from the sinking of Titanic, to the rise of Hitler, to D-Day, to the
198 Dtwclipper : I never did, you became defensive. Where did you get that from? You never heard of it, so how the heck would you know.... Everyone here, on both side
199 YAK42 : So therefore because its been around for ages and reporting stuff that it could hardly miss, its quality?? Ive definitely learned something. Ive lear
200 Flynlr : simple coment belzecd sorbibo treblinka the iraninian mllahs are freakein nuts.
201 Post contains images AndesSMF : You do have a point. Here in America we have the Oscars (films), Grammies (music), Emmy's (TV), and they are certainly not quality awards. And I hear
202 Post contains images YAK42 : Im not arguing whether the Pulitzer Awards or any other awards are quality or not (where did they come in anyway?). But although I am not familliar w
203 L410Turbolet : Hey, what's wrong with the t-shirt? Are you one of those Europeans ignorant about history enough to think that wearing "Che" or "CCCP" t-shirts is coo
204 Post contains images YAK42 : Well the T-shirts advertised are definately of the most painfully un"cool" variety.
205 Falcon84 : Someone lock this thread already. It's degenerated into idiocy over how legit UPI is. Kill it, please.
206 ME AVN FAN : Those CCCP-t-shirts indeed are rather silly. But you in a way misunderstand the matter about "Che-Che...." which is different. In times, when people
207 Soyuzavia : Why lock it? Frankly, the legitimacy of UPI should be called into question, if they have run news based upon hearsay from some "exiled" Iranian who l
208 Dtwclipper : I've learned that trying to educate a waiter is a pointless endeavor. Remember, "Oh, can I get "chips" with that?" because you'll be hearing that for
209 Post contains images Falcon84 : "How would you like your chicken, Mr. bin Laden? By the way, I'm a big fan of yours."
210 Migfan : If I was Israel, I would ask Iran to back up those threats. Without Terrorism, Iran could not stop a leaky toilet. /M
211 Post contains images Windshear : G-d I hate the Che branding!!! 'You can educate a fool, but you cannot make him think'-Talmud Boaz.
212 Post contains links and images Oldeuropean : The Canadian Newspaper National Post, who brought this false report at first, took back the story. http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/n...26a0fa-99de-
213 ME AVN FAN : Whatever, reality is that A) the Iranian government is to launch a P.R. campaign for "Iranian/Islamic" clothing of people B) there is NO prohibition a
214 Windshear : Funny how even Schoenorama and your self completely overlooked my reply #125... You just could not see it? Or were you too preocupied with anger?! Pl
215 ME AVN FAN : well, the problem basically very simply is that every news-media can have mistakes included, caused by misunderstandings, bad sources, mis-writings e
216 Post contains images Oldeuropean : Windshear, I noticed that you realized that this story was a false rumor. No harm meant! My comments to this story were never a reaction to you in pe
217 ME AVN FAN : false the story was, but unfortunately, that campaign for "Iranian/Islamic clothing" is reality, and many Iranians fear that further restrictive laws
218 Post contains images Windshear : Yeah I agree, while I know this is a sensitive subject, to me at least, and that gives me a hard time balancing fear and reason... Meaning: I fear th
219 Post contains links and images Schoenorama : I did read your reply #125 but unfortunately, as normally happens with appealing thread-titles as this one, I'm affraid the damage had already been d
220 Windshear : It is funny how sensitive you are over this! I took the topic name from the article I linked to, I have no intent to change it, as I see no reason to
221 ME AVN FAN : Suppose, the ghosts YOU see are quite similar to the ones I see !
222 Post contains images Windshear : I think you made a correct assesment. Both "sides" in this see ghosts I pressume. This is probably the most hazy conflict ever, even worse than the c
223 YAK42 : Are you kids sure you've got permission to be on the internet? "Mom n' Pop" will be angry if you've been on without supervision.
224 Post contains images Windshear : Is that suppose to be an insult? Boaz.
225 Dtwclipper : Sounds like he's been going after his customers left over Guinness!
226 Post contains images Windshear : Boaz.
227 Schoenorama : It is not this issue per se that I am sensitive about. What I do care about regarding our discussion is two-fold: That the info provided in any post,
228 Cairo : This thread reveals most about the people who start threads a lot and appear on this forum frequently: FIRST, a false story put out by the friends of
229 Windshear : I have no idea as to how to demand the title be changed to be frank... I have always thought other users were the ones who could demand it changed, s
230 Post contains images YAK42 : Look whos talking! Only the most brainwashed and media manipulated Israelophile on Anet.
231 Post contains images Windshear : Boaz.
232 Post contains images YAK42 :
233 Post contains images Windshear : Boaz.
234 Post contains images YAK42 : Thats it! A smiley face. Thats much better!
235 Post contains images Windshear : Exactly Boaz.
236 Post contains images YAK42 : or rather
237 Schoenorama : I've told you how to do just that a couple of anwers back. Just email any of the moderators. I have suggested the moderators to change the title, as
238 Post contains images Windshear : I have made it clear in a reply that this was a hoax, the last 20 + replies have been about nothing else than it being a hoax... I would ask of you t
239 ME AVN FAN : may I defend the "guilty" at UPI. I do not think that they wanted to place a "hoax", they simply became victim to faulty information. The centrepoint
240 Post contains links Dtwclipper : Newspaper apologizes for anti-Iran report Tehran summons envoy to explain Canadian leader's remarks Wednesday, May 24, 2006; Posted: 1:17 p.m. EDT (17
241 KROC : Schoenorama - The author of this thread does not have the ability to change the title of his thread after 30 minutes, so you can get off him any time
242 Schoenorama : I KNOW HE DOESN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY! If you would have bothered to read this thread, you would have noticed that already 2 days ago (reply # 219) I s
243 Post contains images Birdwatching : Look at yourself first. Posting in caps is not only forbidden, but it's also very rude. Soren
244 KROC : According to the personal request I received, that was what I went off of. NOT in ANY of the delete requests I personally saw. I am uncomfortable wit
245 Schoenorama : You are a MODERATOR, KROC. You are supposed to moderate, NOT to take other users personal requests (I assume this was a request by the thread-starter
246 Post contains images Birdwatching : Can you please stop posting in all caps. It makes me freakin' nervous. And it is forbidden. Read the forum rules. How can you repeatedly bash one pers
247 YAK42 : I cant believe how upset you are over schoenorama highlighting some words in caps. Perhaps you shouldnt be so sensitive because alot worse is posted.
248 Post contains images Birdwatching : 1) It's not about single words. Words are ok, I do it myself occasionally. It's whole sentences that tick me out. 2) It's against the forum rules. Wh
249 Post contains images Schoenorama : I know it is against forum rules, I know I have the possibility to either underline something, use italics or put something in bold whenever I want t
250 Jaysit : Who needs a badge? I'm planning a trip to Qom. Where I shall wear a bright pink mini chador and knee high white boots. And kick some smelly Mullah ass
251 Windshear : Guess next thing you would claim, is that Schoenorama is acting cool and collected, not being defensive and childish at all... Right? Schoenorama: I
252 KROC : I received an instant message about this thread, the title, and the fact it was proven to be a hoax, therefore the title should be changed, especiall
253 YAK42 : Well perhaps not quite as much as you are.
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