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US TV Dominates To Much!  
User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

US TV-programs (and some australian and UK), sitcom, drama etc dominates TV here in Sweden.
Some channels have almost only US programs. OK, some are good but a lot is crap.
I can imagine that you who live in USA thinks that it is OK but together with Mc Donalds, Coke, Nike etc and other US trademarks is it sometimes to much!

Example: Almost all programs on this large commercial channel is US made.

Monday May 22, 2006 (CHANNEL TV3)
06:30 Dennis
07:00 Simpsons
08:55 Oprah Winfrey show
09:50 Days of our Lives
10:40 Ricki Lake
11:30 Ellen DeGeneres
12:25 Lyckochansen SWEDISH
12:50 Days of our Lives
13:40 Oprah Winfrey show
14:40 Fab 5
15:35 Beverly Hills
16:30 ER
17:30 Home and away AUSTRALIAN
17:55 Update SWEDISH
18:00 Project runway
20:00 Extreme home makeover
21:00 ER
22:00 L Word
23:05 Navy CIS
00:00 Sex and the city
00:30 ER
01:25 Scrubs
01:50 Drew Carey show
02:20 Oz
03:25 Baywatch
04:10 Beverly Hills
05:00 Ricki Lake

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

Turn it off, change the channel . . .

No one cares . . . .

Bitch to TV3 . . .


User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2633 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1604 times:

Wow... that sucks!!! I would get up and watch the Simpsons, then turn off the TV until SCRUBS came on....

Days of Our Lives and Oprah twice each.... how do you not gouge your eyes out....  vomit 



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User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4748 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1596 times:

Supply and demand. The people at TV station want ratings, if they will get ratings by airing these programs then so be it.

Don't like it? That's what the red button is for.



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

Mostly same in Finland, especially with the commercial channels. The state owned channels shows more European, like lot of British drama and soaps, and Swedish stuff, plus some German. Beside Finnish, of course ...

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1578 times:

 yawn   yawn 

Harry



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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4276 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

You can get all kinds of US shows in Argentina, which is fine, choice is good! But thankfully we have a VERY strong cable network system of channels, in fact Argentina has more cable subscriber penetration in households than any other place after the USA and Canada. So we have our own sports, variety, women's networks, that are actually seen around the world.


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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4845 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Just be thankful that you guys in Sweden don't have the equivalent of the CRTC.

YOWza



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

Unfortunately it is critical mass. American TV has the scale which allows it to afford costly shows, like 24 or Star Trek. Smaller markets simply can't afford to spend that much on a program.

Sometimes however, the small markets make it up in raw talent. The BBC, famous for super-cheap production budgets, has produced masterpieces like BlackAdder, Monty Python, Yes, Minister and Fawlty Towers purely on the power of the writers. Unfortunately, such high-level writing is often impossible to translate into other languages. But Star Trek or Baywatch can be easily translated.


User currently offlineDETA737 From Portugal, joined Oct 2000, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

The only country on mainland Europe where I'm familiar with tv is Portugal. There I've noticed the almost complete lack of American television. There are four public channels and the overwhelming majority of shows are either Portuguese or Brazilian. Prime time seems to be dominated by soap operas, and until a few years ago Brazilian soap operas from Globo made the SIC network #1 in ratings. Though Brazilian culture tends to be the biggest influence in Portuguese popular culture. However, for the past 3 or 4 years Portuguese soap operas made by rival TVI have put that network in the number one place when it comes to marketshare.

Are sitcoms more popular in Sweden? That's the only reason I can explain the popularity of American programming. In Portugal soap operas dominate and if you look at a typical schedule of network tv at http://tv.publico.clix.pt/ you can see that the only American programs aired are CSI New York, Frasier and Dawson's Creek and Friends. All of which are relegated to afer midnight except for Friends on 2 which is the lowest rated network.

Also one question are programs in Sweden dubbed into Swedish? I've noticed much of the continent dubs programs and I find it really annoying, Portugal tends to be one of the exceptions and subtitles are almost always used except with cartoons.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1533 times:

Not our fault in the U.S. You do have actors there, don't you? Make your own shows.

Maybe you should see if you can get a starring role, Bofredrick. Lord knows you're dramatic enough on here.  sarcastic 


User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 48
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1527 times:

Um, Bofredrik, didn't you post this same sentiment a couple months ago?


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User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1516 times:

An unintended positive of this, especially in the Nordic countries, is that a lot of kids speak English fluently by watching TV in addition to their studies at school. Last March, some guy in Stockholm bar was rattling off all his favorite "Friends" episodes to me, I didn't have the heart to tell him that "Friends" is one of our more embarrassing TV exports.


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineThereAndBack From Turkey, joined Aug 2005, 699 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Most american TV is crap and so is the music (the mainstream stuff) and it dominates in most places.

User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 40
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1471 times:

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 13):
Most american TV is crap and so is the music (the mainstream stuff) and it dominates in most places.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I think most US shows shown overseas suck. In fact, I might watch two shows on TV3 on a boring day. But, "so does the music?" WTF? Why is Melody Arabia one of the most fastest growing channels in the Middle East (ref: Advertising Age)? I can watch Melody Arabia on my dish for some odd reason... it's not Britney Spears in three square centimeters of clothing, but it is North American music set in Jordan with Arabs dancing and singing. Watching Melody Arabia is a blast, but its total hypocrisy at the same time.



America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineBasas From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):
Not our fault in the U.S. You do have actors there, don't you? Make your own shows.

Exactly...


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):
Not our fault in the U.S. You do have actors there, don't you? Make your own shows.

Maybe you should see if you can get a starring role, Bofredrick. Lord knows you're dramatic enough on here.

 rotfl 

Well said, Falcon.




-NWA742


User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

That is quite possible the crappest day of TV I have ever seen. Instead of expensive frontal lobotomy procedures, you could just have you patient do a marathon viewing session once, "The Simpsons" was finished.

I would devour a book every day, methinks


User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

this rant is similar to that Starbucks topic. Make your own shows. Simple as that. Here if a show is not watched it goes bye bye real fast. Make all those American shows go bye bye too if you want. But ya won't lol.

I was in France last month and was surprised to see some OLD American shows that were on tv.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

Change the channel, turn it off, make your own shows, and be thankful you don't get the UK's "The Kumars at 42."


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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 19):
Change the channel, turn it off, make your own shows, and be thankful you don't get the UK's "The Kumars at 42."

Damn this was just on BBC America.

Id rather listen to Michael Bolton sing When a Man Loves a Woman.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 20):
just on BBC America.

Which does kind of answer the point about total American domination, doesn't it? How many other countries have an entire channel dedicated to the output of another nation's television like that?



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 1351 times:

Quoting DETA737 (Reply 9):


Also one question are programs in Sweden dubbed into Swedish? I've noticed much of the continent dubs programs and I find it really annoying, Portugal tends to be one of the exceptions and subtitles are almost always used except with cartoons.

Generally no dubbing in Nordic countries, only for some kids stuff, like in Portugal.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12877 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

First of all, we do have the 'critical mass' to have the money to produce programs for TV. I would note that some shows and made for TV movies in the USA including for HBO (a premium pay movie/program channel) often make them in Canada, Europe and sometimes with co-support with BBC and other international regional media companies. Foreign sales are sometimes the only way some shows show a profit to the networks or their producers. For those outside the USA, they can be programs that are far more entertaing that many of your own programs.
Yes, there are some programs that I feel are embarassing to the USA (Friends, Desprite Housewives, Baywatch). Far too often they show a very distorted America, with huge amounts of crime (although we do have much higher rates of murder, and other violent crime that you do), sexual infidelity and stupid attitutes toward sex, too many religious nutcases, and too many people living a rich or upper middle class situation, or the very poor and not enought of 'real' middle class people. There is some hope here with some of our cable/dish only channels with intellegent and entertaining programs.


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

It's all about market power, I think.

Here in the U.S., there are a few foreign entertainment programs that make it to our airwaves -- mostly BBC offerings. But I cannot remember the last time that a mainstream commercial network ran one, with the exception of Spanish-language stations. (Spanish-language stations run mostly Mexican dramas and comedies.)


25 ThereAndBack : Atleast Starbucks tastes good, some shows from the United States leave a bitter taste in my mouth.
26 AerospaceFan : Believe me -- a lot of Americans feel the same way.
27 LOT767-300ER : I can name a few. TV5 (France), Polsat2USA/Int (Poland) USA is as big as Europe, so in that case one can argue that you have CNBC Europe, CNN Europe,
28 Post contains images Sabena332 : How is the show called there? "Steal My Ride"? Patrick
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