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User currently offlineConcordeMach2 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 147 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 713 times:

A neighbour of mine recently built a new computer for me using the latest components (1gb high def video card and wot not) however, since having this computer, my best games will randomly crash on almost every session at random points. Eg straight away or 2 hours in. These games are FS9 and Trainz 2004 and both had no problems (apart from slow graphics) on my old PC. Any ideas on why this could be happening?

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User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 709 times:

The processor in the new computer might not have a big enough spec for the games, than your other computer.

Tom.



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User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3011 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 703 times:
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It could be either hardware or software related. As for software, it could be an old video driver. Try downloading the latest video driver from your video card manufacturer's web site. If that doesn't solve it, it could as well be something defective at the hardware level (usually defective or incompatible RAM is the culprit, but it could be other things as well).

Good luck
-Manuel



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User currently offlineWaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 688 times:

I have a relatively new home-built computer also, and it randomly makes these beeping noises and turns itself off, typically during games. I figured out that it was overheating, so I took the side off and I've had a little fan pointed at the CPU and the graphics card and the problem still occurs, but much less frequently... maybe your computer is overheating as well?

User currently offlineJamie757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 685 times:

Quoting ConcordeMach2 (Thread starter):
A neighbour of mine recently built a new computer for me using the latest components (1gb high def video card and wot not) however, since having this computer, my best games will randomly crash on almost every session at random points. Eg straight away or 2 hours in. These games are FS9 and Trainz 2004 and both had no problems (apart from slow graphics) on my old PC. Any ideas on why this could be happening?

It would probably help if you could post the specifications of your machine, hardware, software etc., my old system used to do the same, but then again, it was running Windows ME!  blush 

Rgds.


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 680 times:

Check that the CPU has a decent amount of thermal paste between it and the heatsink - its a common thing homebuilds lack and it causes random lockups and crashes.

Update all the drivers, reseat all cards.


User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 673 times:

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 1):
The processor in the new computer might not have a big enough spec for the games, than your other computer.

 thumbsdown 

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 2):
As for software, it could be an old video driver.

 thumbsup 

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 2):
usually defective or incompatible RAM is the culprit

 thumbsdown 

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 3):
maybe your computer is overheating as well?

 thumbsup 

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 5):
Check that the CPU has a decent amount of thermal paste between it and the heatsink - its a common thing homebuilds lack and it causes random lockups and crashes.

 thumbsup 

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 5):
Update all the drivers, reseat all cards.

 thumbsup 

I'd say look into getting the latest drivers for major components (motherboard chipset, video card, etc.) consider potential overheating issues and make sure nothing is overclocked. It's possible you have a bad motherboard, video card, RAM, or CPU, but solidstate devices are rarely the culprit unless they're no-name crap brands or they've been treated poorly.



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User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3011 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 650 times:
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Quoting SATX (Reply 6):
It's possible you have a bad motherboard, video card, RAM, or CPU, but solidstate devices are rarely the culprit unless they're no-name crap brands or they've been treated poorly.

I beg to differ - I've seen more bad RAM in the last few years than defective 3.5" floppy disks back when they were still used. In my experience it's the first component worth trying to replace if unpredictable crashed like these happen. But maybe it was just bad luck  Smile

And remember that if "his friend put his PC together" it's probably no IBM, HP or Dell...

-Manuel



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 643 times:

What I don't understand is how it took until the 8th response to catch:

Quoting ConcordeMach2 (Thread starter):
1gb high def video card

Now maybe you all allowed for a punctuation faux pax, but this raises a red flag with me.
Now the keys to me are are 'random' and 'new'.

A new box shouldn't burp at all unless you got malware. If your friend installed everything, you need to make sure (as previously stated) that all drivers and updates possible are in place. Don't forget Direct X!!!

Once you have everything on the software side set, consider reloading FS9 from scratch and NO ADD ONS (Save SP1)

If the crashes are still aparently random start noticing if it's only the games or if the crashes are totally random. If it's 'everything' start to keep a log and try to keep the temperature around your box as consistent as possible. If you leave it on all the time, stop...for now. Make sure you log the times you turn it on/off and the relation of crash times. Hopefully you will discover a pattern of some sort.

Once you can consistenly prove there is a problem you are armed for a batle of wits with tech support...

May the Schwartz be with you!!!


User currently offlineRolfen From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 8 hours ago) and read 617 times:

Quoting SATX (Reply 6):
Quoting ManuCH (Reply 2):
usually defective or incompatible RAM is the culprit

thumbsdown

Why did you give him the thumbsdown? A friend had a similar problem and it turned out to be from the RAM.

In addition to other tips given above, you might want to try lowering the speed of the CPU and RAM bus from the BIOS, if possible, and see if that fixes the problem, just so that you can pinpoint the origin of the trouble.

Also download "speedfan" from the net, it's a free temperature monitor.

The tips above are the most useful steps, but the origin of the problem can actually be anywhere in the software or in the hardware, from the CPU to the power supply or even the keyboard.

[Edited 2006-05-22 19:08:10]


rolf
User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 6 hours ago) and read 605 times:

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 7):
I beg to differ - I've seen more bad RAM in the last few years than defective 3.5" floppy disks back when they were still used.

I've seen some bad RAM also, but not when it had Kingston, Micron/Crucial, Viking, or the like on it.

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 7):

And remember that if "his friend put his PC together" it's probably no IBM, HP or Dell...

True. Good point.

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 8):

A new box shouldn't burp at all unless you got malware.

I disagree. A home-built box will likey burp a lot until all the issues are worked out.

Quoting Rolfen (Reply 9):
Why did you give him the thumbsdown? A friend had a similar problem and it turned out to be from the RAM.

If it's some cheap no-name stick, then yes it could easily be the RAM. Hopefully people realize that you can't build a computer with crap parts and expect it to perform well. Off-brand RAM, and low-end power supplies and motherboards are prone to fail during high-stress conditions such as playing games. This is absolutely correct.



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