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Former Soviet National Anthem (for Piano)  
User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1622 posts, RR: 28
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13248 times:

Recently, after searching a while, I found the official sheet music (for piano) for the former Soviet national anthem.

The official piano sheet music, which I have been enjoying playing, has the official title (written in Russian Cyrillic):

"Gosudarstvenniy Gymn Soyuza Sovietskiy Sotsialistischeskiy Respublik".

I don't know what "Gosudarstvenniy" translates as, but the rest translates as "Hymn to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics". I studied Russian for a year in high school, but that first word stumped me. Anyone know what "Gosudarstvenniy" means?

Is this song similar to "L'Internationale"? All the lyrics (on the 2nd page, before the piano score itself) are written in Russian, too. It seems, like "L'Internationale", to be a hymn encouraging the Soviet worker class to rise up against the capitalists, or something like that; it celebrates the rise of the workers' state. "L'Internationale" celebrates a similar movement. So, I wonder if "L'Internationale" was the inspiration for the official Soviet national anthem (whose score I have been playing on my piano).

Please let me know more about this fascinating piece of Soviet musical history!

Also, where could I find more Soviet-era piano music?

SmithAir747

[Edited 2006-05-29 00:22:39]


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13238 times:

It appears to mean "state", not as a political subdivision, but for a nation as in "affairs of state".


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User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1622 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13230 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 1):
It appears to mean "state", not as a political subdivision, but for a nation as in "affairs of state".

Thanks for your info! Now it appears to make more sense, as in "State Hymn to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics".

As a lifelong pianist, I'm always searching for unique, interesting music to try out, including this stark Soviet socialist gem. Other interesting pieces I've located in the past are themes for Star Trek and X-Files, as well as many old hymns and classical/baroque pieces I've sought for a long time, as well as jazz and other styles.

So, after finding this stark Soviet musical gem, I'm curious to find others!

By the way, I'm teaching myself violin, and I write my own arrangements for violin. I wonder if this would transpose well for violin?

SmithAir747



I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made... (Psalm 139:14)
User currently offlineMrmeangenes From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13224 times:

Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 2):
By the way, I'm teaching myself violin, and I write my own arrangements for violin. I wonder if this would transpose well for violin?

It would probably depend on how much vodka you had consumed.

Are you, by any chance planning to get the music to the Horst Wessel Lied as well ?



gene
User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1622 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 13199 times:

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 3):
It would probably depend on how much vodka you had consumed.

Sorry, I don't drink vodka! I usually refer to my collection of piano pieces I already have and re-score them for violin (which is written on one staff, because the violin, as a solo instrument, only plays the melody, not the embellishments) and change the key to be more compatible with the register of the violin. It doesn't take vodka to do that--just a lifetime's experience with music and a thorough knowledge of reading and writing music--the language that I am most fluent in (besides English).

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 3):
Horst Wessel Lied

No thanks! My musical interest in the case of the Soviet national anthem is purely historical and aesthetic (musicwise), not in the flawed politics of the past Soviet system (or any dictatorship at all). Also, I am a Cold War history buff (having lived through the latter part of it, and remembering my hometown's fallout shelters, etc). I am also fascinated with 20th century Russian/Soviet music, art, and culture, which stems from my combined musical/artistic/historical interests.

SmithAir747



I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made... (Psalm 139:14)
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 13195 times:

Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 2):
I wonder if this would transpose well for violin?

I've always related this tune to deep bass voices, with a rousing tempo. Is the violin capable of being a "dark" instrument to compliment this piece?



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User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1622 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 13192 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 5):
I've always related this tune to deep bass voices, with a rousing tempo. Is the violin capable of being a "dark" instrument to compliment this piece?

Maybe--if you were to include the violin in a group with lower-pitched string instruments (cello and bass) and/or piano, if you want the full "dark", masculine, martial mood.

Actually, this official sheet-music (piano) version I have is written in C major and has a treble-staff melody (with the notes and chords spread out over the whole treble staff) complemented by a strident bass. I would write the treble-clef melody for violin, and the bass part for the lower-pitched cello.

However, I am NOT a singer, nor can I play any wind instruments, so I could not write for voices or winds! If I could, I would write parts for voice/winds that would beautifully express the mood.

Since I play piano, guitar, and violin, I can only write for keyboard and string instruments.

Someday, when I know the violin well enough, and have the money, I would LOVE to get a cello! It would be the perfect, natural progression from my violin self-teaching to teaching myself on cello!

SmithAir747

[Edited 2006-05-29 02:54:10]


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 13189 times:

Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 6):
It would be the perfect, natural progression from my violin self-teaching to teaching myself on cello!

Mmm, yes, the cello would be perfect for this.



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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13174 times:

The Soviet National Anthem is one of my favorite pieces of music. When you hear it, you will automatically have images of the old USSR. Everyone who enjoys good music should download it.

UAL


User currently offlineMrmeangenes From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 13130 times:

Had you considered playing it on viola-for "darker" or richer tone ?
As you know, a lot of grace notes can be bowed on the bass strings.



gene
User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1622 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13130 times:

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 9):
Had you considered playing it on viola-for "darker" or richer tone ?
As you know, a lot of grace notes can be bowed on the bass strings.

Great idea! If I had a viola, that is! I could probably write for viola, anyway!

SmithAir747



I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made... (Psalm 139:14)
User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 13130 times:

Quoting SmithAir747 (Thread starter):
Former Soviet National Anthem

The music was reinstated as the anthem of the Russian federation, only the lyrics differ.

Quoting SmithAir747 (Thread starter):
I don't know what "Gosudarstvenniy" translates

"[of ]State"


Quoting SmithAir747 (Thread starter):
Is this song similar to "L'Internationale"?

No.

Quoting SmithAir747 (Thread starter):
where could I find more Soviet-era piano music?

Try Schostakovich.



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User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2578 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 13130 times:
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Yea I like that anthem, I had it as my ringtone for a short while.

User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1622 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 13130 times:

Here's the violin I use:



SmithAir747



I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made... (Psalm 139:14)
User currently offlineTu204 From Russia, joined Mar 2006, 1168 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 13130 times:

Well, our new anthem has the same music as the old soviet one. Alot of the words are the same from the old one. I like it much more than the one that we had from 92 to 2000.


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User currently offlineSoyuzavia From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 13130 times:

Quoting SmithAir747 (Thread starter):
"Gosudarstvenniy Gymn Soyuza Sovietskiy Sotsialistischeskiy Respublik".

Slight correction. It was officially known as "Gosudarstvenny Gimn Soyuza Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik" or "State Hymn (Anthem) of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics"

Quoting SmithAir747 (Thread starter):
Is this song similar to "L'Internationale"?

No, L'Internationale is a different tune.

Also, where could I find more Soviet-era piano music?

Try http://www.sovmusic.ru
Given the up and down history of Russia, there are quite a few anthems.

The first official anthem was Боже, Царя храни! (God Save the Tsar!) (previously it was Молитва русских - The Prayer of Russians [sung to tune of God Save The Queen/King] albeit unofficially)
http://folk.ntnu.no/makarov/temporar...ya-khrani-acapella-valaam_1995.mp3
If you know the 1812 Overture, you will know most of this music already. Was national anthem until 1917.

In 1917, the 'anthem' was Отречемся от старого мира (commonly known as Worker’s Marseillaise)
http://www.1917.com/Gallery/Revolutionary_Song/Marseleza.html
The song is sung to the tune of the other great national anthem, La Marseillaise, and is full of revolutionary rhetoric, e.g.

(3rd and 4th lines of first stanza)
Нам враждебны златые кумиры; (We're enemies to the golden idols)
Ненавистен нам царский чертог! (We detest the Tsar's palaces!)

L'Internationale was used as the official anthem from the 1918 to 1942/3, but of course with Russia language lyrics.

In 1944 Stalin introduced the anthem that we know of as being the Soviet anthem (as in music - diff. lyrics). It was previously used as the anthem of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) for several years before it's introduction as the official Soviet anthem. It was introduced because the rodina was at war, and Stalin wanted a distinctly Russian song as their anthem.

Upon Stalin's death in 53, and with Khrushchev's program of de-Stalinisation, up until 1977, the words to the anthem weren't sung, due to direct references to Stalin.

In 1977, the anthem that most of us are familiar with was introduced.
http://folk.ntnu.no/makarov/temporar...9kctqm/anthem-sovietunion-1977.mp3
(sung by Red Army Choir)

In 1991, the Russian anthem was changed to Патриотическая Песня (Patriotic Song). It was only music (dating back to the earlier part of the 1800s). A competition was held to have lyrics written. The lyrics were never officially introduced as Putin was elected in 2000.

In 2000, Putin signed an act which re-introduced the music of the Soviet anthem as Russia's national anthem. This wasn't due to some ill-conceived notion of Putin wanting to turn Russia back into the USSR (as some would have you believe), but because there was very strong public support for it. The original lyricist of the 1944 version was called upon and provided the new Russified lyrics of the current anthem.

Quoting SmithAir747 (Thread starter):
Also, where could I find more Soviet-era piano music?

Try http://www.sovmusic.ru/english/index.php


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