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Ahmadinejad Will Not Attend The World Cup  
User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Well, apparently Mahmoud will not go to the World Cup after all. Just read in an Article on Focus Online that he has decided not to go, according to one of his officials. His non-attendance at the World Cup has given the World Cup Organisers and German politicians a very big sigh of relief, though previously, "Der Spiegel" reported that a visit by Ahmadinejad to Germany was still tentative.

Full Article (German only): http://focus.msn.de/sport/wm2006/ahm...leibt-der-wm-fern_spid_270596.html

I'm glad that man isn't coming to Germany.

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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Thread starter):
I'm glad that man isn't coming to Germany.

Aren't we all Big grin


Lee



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24815 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1873 times:

Damn, I wanted to see if he would become a sniper victim  Sad


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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2):
become a sniper victim

Something like this was the last thing the Germans would have needed ...........


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24815 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 3):
Something like this was the last thing the Germans would have needed ...........

Would have been perfect for Bush etc, no need for a war in Iran etc.



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User currently offlineBrettbrett21 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1837 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2):
Damn, I wanted to see if he would become a sniper victim

Hmmmm......Germany......Assasination......where have I heard something like this beforel?!

Don't think that would help anything at all!



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1831 times:

Glad to hear it...It would have been a mess for the Germans if he went.

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 5):
Don't think that would help anything at all!

Are you serious? The best possible outcome for the entire world would be if the Iranian regime collapses without Western intervention...Nobody wants to militarily confront Iran so if the regime collapsed it wouldn't be necessary.


User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2719 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

Oh ! why not? politics mixed with sports is fun !
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion para la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7917 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1808 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 6):
The best possible outcome for the entire world would be if the Iranian regime collapses without Western intervention...

But a sniper killing the Iranian President would be kind of a western intervention, since it would have shown that Germany's security would have been unable to protect him.
And you don't really believe the assasination of Achmadinejad would end Iran's enrichment program?

[Edited 2006-05-30 01:06:17]


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User currently offlineTIA From Albania, joined Mar 2006, 524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 6):
The best possible outcome for the entire world would be if the Iranian regime collapses without Western intervention...Nobody wants to militarily confront Iran so if the regime collapsed it wouldn't be necessary.

True, but do you really believe that if he were murdered in Germany it wouldn't be interpreted as the West killing him? No matter what, the ayatollah in Iran would blame all the western governments. And no one knows how things would precipitate afterwards, but most likely they will get worse, since Ahmadinejad is only the spokesman for the people holding the real power in Iran.


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 8):
But a sniper killing the Iranian President would be kind of a western intervention, since it would have shown that Germany's security would have been unable to protect him.

Well, if one 16-year old drunk can stab 31 people at a public event, despite all security, people probably wouldn't even ask how a professional assasin with excellent camouflage skills located a few hundred yards away in an abandoned building manages to put one single bullet into a single person's head  Wink .


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 8):
And you don't really believe the assasination of Achmadinejad would end Iran's enrichment program?

It isn't guaranteed to end it, but I think that if the pot were stirred the situation would be better than it is today. Shake up the regime and anything can happen...Anything is better than sitting idle while Iran races to complete its nuclear weapons program, as it is doing today.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 6):
It would have been a mess for the Germans if he went.

 checkmark 

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 11):
Anything is better than sitting idle while Iran races to complete its nuclear weapons program, as it is doing today.

While I'm all for Iran ending their nuclear programme and Ahmadinejad disappearing in any way, I think the last thing we need is yet another war. I prefer major sabotage of the programme over a pre-emptive strike in these days, given that some days, I think we're at the brink of World War III.


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1760 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 12):
While I'm all for Iran ending their nuclear programme and Ahmadinejad disappearing in any way, I think the last thing we need is yet another war.

Nobody wants another war. That is why I said the best outcome would be if the regime collapsed before it came to war. But one way or the other, I don't think the United States will alow Iran to acquire nuclear weapons...

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 12):
I prefer major sabotage of the programme over a pre-emptive strike in these days, given that some days, I think we're at the brink of World War III.

Hopefully such sabotage is already in the works and we just don't know about it. And sabotage doesn't have to be of the phsyical plants--Anything that makes the regime internally weaker is a step in the right direction. That being said, the Israelis tried sabotaging the parts as they left Europe in the early 80s before resorting to a surgical strike against Iraq's plant.


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7917 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1748 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
Well, if one 16-year old drunk can stab 31 people at a public event, despite all security

What security? I was there and there was hardly any security, which didn't come as surprise, since it's impossible to provide security under those circumstances.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 11):
It isn't guaranteed to end it, but I think that if the pot were stirred the situation would be better than it is today.

Perhaps. Maybe Allah will show some consideration ....



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 3):
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2):
become a sniper victim

Something like this was the last thing the Germans would have needed ...........

I would settle for him stepping of his plane, getting his ass kicked, thrown back in his aircraft, and told to go the hell home.  Big grin


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
people probably wouldn't even ask how a professional assassin

people possibly not. BUT the Iranians would simply state that he was murdered by the West, and many people would jump to the conclusion that it must have been the CIA

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 12):
I think the last thing we need is yet another war. I prefer major sabotage of the programme over a pre-emptive strike in these days, given that some days, I think we're at the brink of World War III.

absolutely. To put it in the words of Harry Truman "and most of us would never see a peaceful world again" .

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 14):
there was hardly any security

"security" is usually provided for "threatened persons" like Mrs Merkel and other VIPs. Few people expect a 16year-old to run amok in a new rail-station

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 15):
getting his ass kicked, thrown back in his aircraft

WHO exactly should do so ? Mrs Merkel ? Mr Trappatoni ? Thomas Gottschalk ? or the US-ambassador to Germany ?


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 16):
WHO exactly should do so ? Mrs Merkel ? Mr Trappatoni ? Thomas Gottschalk ? or the US-ambassador to Germany ?

Doesn't matter to me. Just as so someone does it to this loser.  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 17):
Doesn't matter to me. Just as so someone does it to this loser.

had he arrived, he would have been a state-guest on an inofficial visit. The German security forces would have had no chance than to try to guard him as well as possible. All in all, it is rather fortunate that he in the end decided against going to Germany.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1647 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Thread starter):
Ahmadinejad Will Not Attend The World Cup

Good, but now there is another rumor around:



 rotfl 

Patrick


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 19):
another rumor

taste of course is subject to the beholder !


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7917 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1627 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 19):

Very funny, indeed. Big grin
I'm not paying the medium he'll need to visit the World Cup, though.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 19):
Good, but now there is another rumor around

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Damn I wish I had a subscription for Titanic Magazin. That picture is priceless. Big grin


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

The city of Nuremberg,where Iran plays,was extremely worried about the prospects of having the iranian president appearing during one of the games.
Nuremberg was associated with third-reich propaganda events and the least thing they wanted ,was a madman questioning the existance of gas-chambers...
I do wish the team of Iran though ,a successful world-cup participation...
Maybe if they make it to the final,he will come to Berlin....  crazy 



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User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3396 posts, RR: 29
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

Last time an Iranian head of State visited Berlin when a great coalition was in the German government, we got the biggest unrest we ever had (the Shah visit in 1968)...

So, Mr. Achmadinejad: Stay away from our state, we don't want your kind here!


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