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"American Empire Must Be Destroyed Or We'll Die"  
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3311 times:

I'm quoting Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez who has just said:

"The American Empire existance threatens the survival of the human race, it must be destroyed or else we'll die".

I just heard him on national TV, he's broadcasting live from the Venezuelan Embassy in Quito, Ecuador.

Yet another lunatic rant directed at the United States.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis

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User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3300 times:

Ummm ok...

Hugo Chavez wouldn't happen to be drunk would he?



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User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3300 times:

Just outta curiosity, what exactly about the so-called "American Empire" is threatening the human race? Culture? Hmm...if Venezuelans are immersing themselves in American culture (and it happens to have a negative affect), then I'd say that's a local problem...blame the citizens for absorbing it, so to speak. Definitely sounds like a nonsensical rant to me.


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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3274 times:

At this stage its nothing more than rhetoric to divert attention and keep the masses riled up.


"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3269 times:

Ya know what I think ... I think hes jealous of the US just like his buddy Castro is. He should worry about his country. Its not like Venezuela is a global power ...


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineMigfan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3257 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
Yet another lunatic rant directed at the United States.

What do you care? Chavez seems like a wacka-doo, but what is it to you?

/M


User currently offlineSean1234 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3243 times:

I get the Economist magazine every week. I used to just skip over the Latin American section; not in recent times.  rotfl 

User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3243 times:

Quoting Migfan (Reply 5):

What do you care? Chavez seems like a wacka-doo, but what is it to you?

Didn't we have another wack job - Osama somebody that apparently someone didn't take to seriously?


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3239 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
I just heard him on national TV, he's broadcasting live from the Venezuelan Embassy in Quito, Ecuador.

As a Ecuadorian, I am ashamed to hear that Ecuador has invited him. Then again, Ecuador

Quoting Migfan (Reply 5):
What do you care? Chavez seems like a wacka-doo, but what is it to you?

A lot of people care when their leaders say something they disagree with.


User currently offlineMigfan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3236 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 9):
A lot of people care when their leaders say something they disagree with.

Sorry, but it does not answer the question. What kind of friend is the US to Venezula? Why would their people care about us? Most of Latin America hates us, loves our money.

/M


User currently offlineMigfan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3226 times:

That's all you had to say. Now, your premise makes more sense. I never take anything at face value.

Can the people of Venezuela impeach or over-throw Chavez. I apologize for my lack of knowledge in Venezuelan policy.

/M


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3226 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 9):
As a Ecuadorian, I am ashamed to hear that Ecuador has invited him. Then again, Ecuador

Remember that Chavez uses his Petrodollars to buy support around the globe. The reason he was invited is because he offered refinary capacity to Ecuador free or charge. Under the deal signed today, Ecuador will send 100,000 daily barrels of crude to be refined in Venezuelan refinieries. The refined products will then be shipped back to Ecuador so that it can consume it and export it. ALL OF THIS FREE OF CHARGE.

This spare refinery capacity is thanks to the wrecked State-run oil company PDVSA (owner of CITGO), which is in hands of pro-Chavez unqualified workers after Chavez fired 20,000 workers because they didn't support his goverment. PDVSA produces half of what it did before the massive lay-off of employees in 2003.

Saludos desde Caracas,
LUis


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3217 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 14):
This spare refinery capacity is thanks to the wrecked State-run oil company PDVSA (owner of CITGO), which is in hands of pro-Chavez unqualified workers after Chavez fired 20,000 workers because they didn't support his goverment. PDVSA produces half of what it did before the massive lay-off of employees in 2003.

Right, not surprised. BTW, I read a report not long ago that Chavez had oversold oil and had to import oil from Russia to cover his shortfalls. What is the deal with this?


User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3159 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 13):
Why does Europe love this mental pygmie so much?

It varies from country to country. Countries which are socialist (or very socialists) like France and Spain do love him. But in the Czech Republic he is regarded as a crazy man. Also, the Czechs are the second main Cuban enemy after the US because we are implementing policies against this country. The Czech Rep really does not like people like Chavez, Castro or Kim Chong-Il.
Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineMigfan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3153 times:

Besides the whole communism thing. What does everyone have against Cuba?

/M


User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3136 times:

Quoting Migfan (Reply 21):
Besides the whole communism thing. What does everyone have against Cuba?

I think they only are against the communism thing. Cubans (ordinary people, not gov.) are known (at least in Czech Rep) to be VERY nice people. But everybody hates Castro and his regime and the human rights supressings.
Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3127 times:

With the liberal open border policy I'll give the Empire another 100 years.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3119 times:

Consider the source and ignore the other BS . . .

He's a screwball.

Sooner or later his own people will take him out.

Or someone will.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3093 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
"The American Empire existance threatens the survival of the human race, it must be destroyed or else we'll die".

Next thing you know he will be sending Darth Vader after us.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13115 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

Back in the late 1950's then USA Vice-President Nixon visited Venezula, he had his cars hit with stuff, people were carrying signs saying 'Yanquie go home' and near-riot conditions that endangered him and so on, so the anti-American rants there are nothing new. I agree that Chavez needs something to distract his countries' citizens from the many problems and so attacks the USA, but not without some historical cause. Consider that the USA has often supported mean, cruel and often despotic leaders in South and Central America, the Middle East and elsewhere, so long as not Commies and would allow our trade, access to oil and so on. So it is no wonder about the beheavor of Chavez and even some terrorists.

User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 26):
Back in the late 1950's then USA Vice-President Nixon visited Venezula, he had his cars hit with stuff, people were carrying signs saying 'Yanquie go home' and near-riot conditions that endangered him and so on, so the anti-American rants there are nothing new.

I'm sorry but your conclusion is completely wrong. Anti-American rants here in Venezuela are very new, they started when Chavez won the presidency in 1998. The fact that Nixon was hit with stuff and people saying "Yankee Go Home" in the late 50s were acts coordinated by the Marxist Guerrilla groups operating in Venezuela at that time. The Guerrillas were financed by the Soviet Communist Party and Fidel Castro. Cuban forces alongside guerrillas invaded the Venezuelan coast a couple of times. Pro-Communist army officers tried to overthrow the democratic govt. twice and failed.

By the early 70s, all guerrillas were exterminated and communism erradicated from Venezuela. The Venezuelan communist party disbanded and many started a Centre-Left-wing party called MAS (Currently oppose Chavez).

There were no Anti-US riots or protests when President Clinton visited Venezuela in 1996. I remember the C-5's parked in CCS unloading the BlackHawk choppers which were used to take Clinton from CCS to the city.
No Venezuelan govt had ever ranted at the US before Chavez. I think that gives you an idea of why Venezuela was the first country to get F16s in the Americas outside of the US. We got 23 F16s from the US in 1983.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1620 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3018 times:

Whoa Hugo, homie! Take the joint out of your mouth, put down the rum, and think about what you just said. Toolio here needs to calm it down, or he might get himself iced. Just exactly who was he appealing to when he mentioned the destruction of the "American Empire?"

[Edited 2006-05-31 06:27:42]


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User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3011 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2977 times:
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Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 13):
Why does Europe love this mental pygmie so much?

Definitely not in the country where I live. He's seen as a sick person, to be jailed UFN.

-Manuel



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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
I'm quoting Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez who has just said:

"The American Empire existance threatens the survival of the human race, it must be destroyed or else we'll die".

I just heard him on national TV, he's broadcasting live from the Venezuelan Embassy in Quito, Ecuador.

Something of this line of reasoning reminds me that, talented though he is as a filmmaker, George Lucas should never been seen as a political philosopher of great note, and particularly not by literalists who may also believe that Luke Skywalker and the Rebel Alliance would support the causes of the left. Luke, after all, was royalty -- hardly the type to support socialism, I would think.

Which is just a long way of saying that the moment that President Bush dissolves the Galactic Senate, I will be instantly convinced of the truth of Chavez's comments... but not before.

Until today, I had never believed Chavez to have been part of the tinfoil hat brigade, but now I'm not so sure.

[Edited 2006-05-31 08:16:00]

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21634 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 31):
Which is just a long way of saying that the moment that President Bush dissolves the Galactic Senate, I will be instantly convinced of the truth of Chavez's comments... but not before.

Well, he did say that the UN was useless....  stirthepot 

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
25 Doona : Well, he has a point there... some of you culture is repulsive, I'm thinking white-trash pop stars, country music, your export of MTV, etc. Enough to
26 Banco : It's always the case with the pre-eminent power. Britain exported its culture around the world a couple of hundred years ago, the Spanish before that
27 Post contains images Rolfen : HAHA Too much starwars Luke Chavez, the force you will use to defeat Darth Bush, but first, a rebel base you will need.
28 JCS17 : There are rumors abound of Hugo needing psychological supervision in his earlier days, and today, the rumor is that the guy is so loaded up on anti-ps
29 Mrmeangenes : Hey Luis: I don't like to change the subject away from "Our Hero Hugo", but have you - or anyone heard how things are going in Chile ? A neighbor's ki
30 Slider : *cough, CITGO, cough* Yeah- it would be a real shame if he had an "accident" or something. Just sayin.
31 Cfalk : Chavez has obviously read Mein Kampf. Provide the people someone to blame for all their woes, someone to hate, and you can not only stay in power but
32 Post contains images Banco : Cue females losing their temper right across the world upon reading that...
33 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Now all we need is Jar-Jar. Seriously, though -- I meant the Galactic Senate itself, not the UN. (As you would agree, since the Galactic Senate is fi
34 Post contains images Mir : For this episode of "World Wars", the part of Jar-Jar Binks will be played by Hugo Chavez: Nothing he says ever makes sense and he's a pain in the as
35 Post contains images AerospaceFan : All right. So at any rate, it doesn't exist today.
36 Post contains images Babybus : The guy is talking out his backside. What "Empire" is he talking about?
37 Post contains images Mir : Obviously not, since it got dissolved. Jeez. It's the New Republic Senate now. -Mir
38 MigFan : Watch out for world leaders that wear berets...
39 Mdsh00 : Actually when I was there about 6 months ago, I found the people very pleasant and freindly, even when they knew my friends and I were American. That
40 Post contains images AerospaceFan : [Off topic]And interns that wear them, too. Especially if they're named Monica.[/Off topic] Seriously, though -- berets and sunglasses: It seems that
41 Cfalk : Don't get your panties in a knot. The guy who said it has been dead 60 years. "The people in their overwhelming majority are so feminine by nature an
42 Bushpilot : Firstly Chavez is a quack job, this is nothing new, but just a new chapter of mindless rhetoric, but I will reply to a few things that were written. T
43 Cfalk : Give me some examples. These facile statements get on my nerves. I keep hearing stuff like Bush scaring people into supporting him, but I have not se
44 DeltaDC9 : Being willing to allow a sworn enemy of the US to install nuclear missiles aimed at US soil so close we could not respond was not something time will
45 Cedars747 : November 06 ,2001 president Bush said :"There was no room for neutrality,you are either with us or against us" Alex!!!
46 Post contains images AndesSMF : So you complain when Bush says it and then justify Chavez because Bush said something similar? Did I get that right?
47 Bushpilot : Well how about putting bird flu prevention under the guise of DHS instead of the CDC. Terror warning levels, keeping Americans safe by invading Iraq,
48 Post contains images Banco : 'Twas irony, old boy. I'm well aware of who said it. Still, I shouldn't be surprised that irony goes right over your head as an American, should I?
49 Cfalk : How is that fearmongering? If this makes more afraid of bird flu, I suggest therapy. Maybe, just maybe, DHS was given leadership of the project becau
50 Cedars747 : Oops ! What was the problem ? Alex!!!
51 Bushpilot : Cfalk, thanks for the reply, I am going to reply to a few things you said, and leave it at that, if youd like to debate more in the future send me an
52 L-188 : They must be worried about those three emperor geese the feds say are left outside zoos.
53 Post contains images Turbo7x7 : It's all about the oil$$. The more crazy the things he says and does, the more "uncertainty" is factored into the oil markets, thus keeping prices up.
54 Derico : You serious Mrneangenes? Chile is politically more stable than the United States. Not every part of Latin America is obsessed with the US. Not to hur
55 Post contains links AerospaceFan : That may be so, but I think that there are certain exceptions. For example, the messages you post here exist, in historical terms, only because of la
56 Dougloid : I heard about the Southern Cone....that's where all the Southern Cone Heads come from.
57 Post contains images AerospaceFan : LOL. I thought Cone Heads came from France? :Sudden realization: So, that's where France is!
58 Jaysit : If Hugo Chavez tries to destroy America, we will let loose our killer FEMBOTs against him. Yes, indeed, we will send killer FEMBOTs, Jessica Simpson,
59 Mrmeangenes : Thanks,Derico !!
60 Luisde8cd : Gene, Derico hit the nail. Chile is S.America's most prosperous economy. And politically-wise is in very good share after the election of its first f
61 Pdpsol : Just to echo Luis and Derico's comments, your neighbor's kid will absolutely LOVE Chile. Chile's ski resorts in Chillan and Portillo are awesome! Chi
62 Slider : Brilliant!!! And make them wear Barbra Streisand masks while doing it!
63 AndesSMF : That's wrong! You dont want Amnesty International getting angry again when we inflict this torture!
64 Mrmeangenes : By the way, fans of Hugo Chavez will be delighted to learn he has just taken delivery of a large shipment of Russian rifles....AND the Russians are go
65 Koper : Chavez seams to speak like Bin Laden..
66 Zkpilot : what a load of crap.... America is the only country on earth that is doing anything useful in space... the future of the human race is in colonising
67 AerospaceFan : Agreed. When the world faces a global threat, who is it that it will turn to for assistance? That's right -- America, along with Europe and other adv
68 Derico : No country in the world is doing anything spectacular in space right now, the US included needing the Russians to get them up there to begin with, an
69 AerospaceFan : I think I would agree with you only on a qualified basis, here. For the past twenty years, America's achievements in exploring our Solar System, and
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