Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2007 times:
I'm normally not for lawsuits that, under other circumstances, might seem frivilous, but maybe this is a good way to keep those kooks from Westboro Baptist Church from protesting at military funerals-bankrupt them.
Boeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1862 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1999 times:
Good for him! I really REALLY hope he wins his suit. Unfortunately from what I have read, the leader of the WBC (Fred Phelps Sr.) has a fairly powerful law firm. However, even if this man does not win his suit, it will stir up more controversey regarding the WBC.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1999 times:
Good for this guy.
Most lawsuits are frivilous and ridiculous - and one could possible classify this one the same way - but as you said Falcon - if every family that had these assholes show up at a funeral sued them, they'd have no time to attend funerals . . . too many court dates . . . and it would bankrupt them.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1999 times:
I don't think it'll bankrupt them. Old man Phelps was a lawyer (and a crafty one at that), and I think some of his spawn went to law school too. They'll just represent themselves and spend the other side's money long before any damage is done.
EWWForEver From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1948 times:
I wonder if any of Phelps fellow church leaders (if you can call them that), such as Falwell or Pat Robertson will support him on this. This might kick off a big battle between freedom of speech and religion.
Jay, depending on how literally you interpret the matter, I think you may be wrong on that count. At the very least, he was a practicing attorney. According to the Anti-Defamation league (link below) he was an attorney and was disbarred in 1979 by the State of Kansas and surrendered his bar card from the federal circuit in 1989 in a settlement.
Go3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3268 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1868 times:
As it has been said, the Phelps family is a family of lawyers. Thats how they make their money. Where they get their clients from, I don't know. I doubt the man will win, but I certainly hope he does. I hope one day, that their church bus just happens to wander in front of a coked up truck driver and nobody lives. Shame on the kids though, they are pretty much brainwashed at this point.
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1853 times:
Quoting DC10GUY (Reply 10): He should sue George Bush for sending his son to die for oil in the first place...
His son willingly volunteered to serve, DC10GUY, and he took an oath to defend the United States, if called upon to do so. His C-in-C, whether you or I liked the reason for the war-and we both didn't-called him to service, and he did.
I'd like to see you put your life on the line like those guys did. I'm sure not all of them agreed with the war, but they went, and the oveerwhelming majority have served honorably. And they deserve a burial that's free from lowlifes like those who are protesting when they are laid to rest.
Being against the war is fine. Putting forth garbage like you are is just that-garbage.
DC10GUY From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1830 times:
Putting my life on the line is one thing. Seeing my son die is another. Seeing him die for the Iraqi people or what ever reason they come up with for the oil war this week ???. And that has nothing to do with a oath, it has everything to do with reality. I'm just sad the church wackos are the only ones raising a stink about it....
Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
Soyuzavia From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1776 times:
I must be the only one who hopes he doesn't win. Thus far, I haven't seen anything in their supporting documents that would constitute libel, and as to picketing a funeral, he has broken no laws.
As much as I detest Phelps and everything he stands for, if this guy is successful with his lawsuit just throws another spanner in the works for anyone who believes in free speech, which I thought all 300+ million Americans did? Just think, a precedent is set, next time you say something which offends or upsets someone, you can be sued. It will only clog up the courts with frivolous suits.
Skidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1764 times:
Free speech is one thing, this is another. This is an infringement of peoples right to grieve and mourn in peace. Anyone who uses a funeral to promote their views is sick. To use it to decry the dead is sicker. And I'm not in the least bit religious, I think the war was a mistake and I'm not wholly comfortable with some of the other things going on in this world in the name of freedom. But I'm damn sure disrupting someones funeral to promulgate your own views is not "freedom of speech" but harrasment and morally wrong.
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