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Late Marines' Dad Suing Westboro Baptist  
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

I'm normally not for lawsuits that, under other circumstances, might seem frivilous, but maybe this is a good way to keep those kooks from Westboro Baptist Church from protesting at military funerals-bankrupt them.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles...ters/n20060605151709990004?cid=505

I think every family that has these jerks show up should do the same, to make it financially impossible for them to keep doing this.

Kudo's to this dad.

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User currently offlineBoeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1827 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

Good for him! I really REALLY hope he wins his suit. Unfortunately from what I have read, the leader of the WBC (Fred Phelps Sr.) has a fairly powerful law firm. However, even if this man does not win his suit, it will stir up more controversey regarding the WBC.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

Good for this guy.

Most lawsuits are frivilous and ridiculous - and one could possible classify this one the same way - but as you said Falcon - if every family that had these assholes show up at a funeral sued them, they'd have no time to attend funerals . . . too many court dates . . . and it would bankrupt them.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

I don't think it'll bankrupt them. Old man Phelps was a lawyer (and a crafty one at that), and I think some of his spawn went to law school too. They'll just represent themselves and spend the other side's money long before any damage is done.

I wish the soldier's family luck, however.



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1799 times:

Fuck the Phelps'. I hope they get legally reamed until they are all on welfare and begging for a place to live.

User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3347 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

If this is tried in front of a jury (which it will be), I seriously doubt WBC has any chance of wining.

AAndrew


User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3206 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

Good on this guy. I hope he wins. From what I know this group is targeting innocent people. They deserve to be sued for all they're worth!


Religion is an illusion of childhood... Outgrown under proper education.
User currently offlineEWWForEver From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

I wonder if any of Phelps fellow church leaders (if you can call them that), such as Falwell or Pat Robertson will support him on this. This might kick off a big battle between freedom of speech and religion.


Hurry...Before the parade passes by !
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1754 times:

http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/phelpsbio.html

This clown never went to law school.

But I bet he has a bevy of "God loving" lawyers at his command, much like all the religious fundies do.

I'm curious as to where Phelps and his goon squad get their funding from?


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 8):
This clown never went to law school.

He was a Public Defender at one point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps#Phelps.27_law_career



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 9):
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 8):
This clown never went to law school.

He was a Public Defender at one point.

Good lord.

Thanks for the correction. That Wikipedia article on him is scary.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 11):
That Wikipedia article on him is scary.

Isn't it though? Maybe they've gone back to selling candy and baby strollers.



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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1721 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 8):
This clown never went to law school.

Jay, depending on how literally you interpret the matter, I think you may be wrong on that count. At the very least, he was a practicing attorney. According to the Anti-Defamation league (link below) he was an attorney and was disbarred in 1979 by the State of Kansas and surrendered his bar card from the federal circuit in 1989 in a settlement.

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/wbc/default.asp

It's not clear how he gained admission to the bar in the first place. He may have "read" for the bar.


User currently offlineDC10GUY From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1714 times:

Fight for these people ? give me a break. I'm sorry but that soildier died for our greed not our freedom...  Wow!


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1714 times:

Quoting DC10GUY (Reply 15):
Fight for these people ? give me a break. I'm sorry but that soildier died for our greed not our freedom...

That soldier died because he knowingly accepted a risk when he signed up for a volunteer force and was called upon to perform the duty he swore to.

The father would have to sue his own son, not the POTUS. Take it elsewhere.


User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1684 times:

As it has been said, the Phelps family is a family of lawyers. Thats how they make their money. Where they get their clients from, I don't know. I doubt the man will win, but I certainly hope he does. I hope one day, that their church bus just happens to wander in front of a coked up truck driver and nobody lives. Shame on the kids though, they are pretty much brainwashed at this point.


Yay Pudding!
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1676 times:

Quoting DC10GUY (Reply 10):
He should sue George Bush for sending his son to die for oil in the first place...



Quoting DC10GUY (Reply 15):
Fight for these people ? give me a break. I'm sorry but that soildier died for our greed not our freedom...

Hmmmm, more drivel . . . .  sarcastic 


User currently offlineChrisjake From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 863 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1676 times:

Quoting DC10GUY (Reply 15):
Fight for these people ? give me a break. I'm sorry but that soildier died for our greed not our freedom... Wow!

whoa....DC10GUY, chill out.

it may be your belief, but thats not what we're talkin about. I'm not a Bush fan myself, but that doesnt belong here.

meanwhile....

i'm all for this lawsuit, but i worry that it won't float I wish we could just beat their asses.


chris



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1669 times:

Quoting DC10GUY (Reply 10):
He should sue George Bush for sending his son to die for oil in the first place...

His son willingly volunteered to serve, DC10GUY, and he took an oath to defend the United States, if called upon to do so. His C-in-C, whether you or I liked the reason for the war-and we both didn't-called him to service, and he did.

I'd like to see you put your life on the line like those guys did. I'm sure not all of them agreed with the war, but they went, and the oveerwhelming majority have served honorably. And they deserve a burial that's free from lowlifes like those who are protesting when they are laid to rest.

Being against the war is fine. Putting forth garbage like you are is just that-garbage.


User currently offlineDC10GUY From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

Putting my life on the line is one thing. Seeing my son die is another. Seeing him die for the Iraqi people or what ever reason they come up with for the oil war this week ???. And that has nothing to do with a oath, it has everything to do with reality. I'm just sad the church wackos are the only ones raising a stink about it.... Wow!


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1637 times:

Quoting DC10GUY (Reply 21):
it has everything to do with reality

Of which I'm thoroughly convinced you cannot grasp . . .


User currently offlineLobster From Germany, joined Oct 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

Quoting DC10GUY (Reply 10):
He should sue George Bush for sending his son to die for oil in the first place...

And yet another leftie speaks their mind which only goes to show they know nothing about what they talk about!!

It's OK though, Michael Moore still likes you


User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1609 times:

I'm surprised Mr. Phelps aint got shot yet. If he ever does, I cant say that I will be sad.



-Delta767300ER

[Edited 2006-06-06 08:34:54]

User currently offlineSoyuzavia From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

I must be the only one who hopes he doesn't win. Thus far, I haven't seen anything in their supporting documents that would constitute libel, and as to picketing a funeral, he has broken no laws.

As much as I detest Phelps and everything he stands for, if this guy is successful with his lawsuit just throws another spanner in the works for anyone who believes in free speech, which I thought all 300+ million Americans did? Just think, a precedent is set, next time you say something which offends or upsets someone, you can be sued. It will only clog up the courts with frivolous suits.


User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1580 times:

Free speech is one thing, this is another. This is an infringement of peoples right to grieve and mourn in peace. Anyone who uses a funeral to promote their views is sick. To use it to decry the dead is sicker. And I'm not in the least bit religious, I think the war was a mistake and I'm not wholly comfortable with some of the other things going on in this world in the name of freedom. But I'm damn sure disrupting someones funeral to promulgate your own views is not "freedom of speech" but harrasment and morally wrong.

Andy  old 



Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
25 Gunsontheroof : I think that's one statement that most of us can agree upon regardless of our political persuasions. Disgusting people. While I'm generally the antit
26 Post contains links Doona : Actually, everyone who is not a member of the WBC are very gulity indeed. Check out: http://godhatessweden.com So, since I am not a member of the WBC
27 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I'll see ya there . . . bring beer.
28 Gunsontheroof : I'll be looking for you guys...is it tough to ask for directions in hell?
29 Post contains images Doona : I always figured that beer would be provided in hell! If not, I'm gonna need some time to procure an amount which is appropriate for spending eternit
30 777DadandJr : As Americans, we do hold freedom of speech in the highest reguard. However, the difference between most Americans, and 70 twisted f*cks from Kansas,
31 Falcon84 : This may not be tried under First Amendment rights, it may be tried as an Invasion of Privacy, Soyuzavia. A funeral is, in essence, a private event,
32 Post contains images 11Bravo : Speaking of beer, WTF does "Unconscounable" mean? This legal action is all fine and well I suppose, but sooner or later some distraught family member
33 Post contains images AGM100 : This is completly unacceptable, no one,, no one,, should ever use a military funeral to protest anything !. These idiots should know better , I should
34 777DadandJr : One of the basic tenents of Christianity is to "honor the dead." I see none of that from the bunch of kooks. I am surprised that hasn't happened alrea
35 Crjflyer35 : If that ever happened at a funeral I participated in, I would have had a hard time controlling myself. I'm all for free speech, but as stated above, w
36 Post contains links KaiGywer : See quote below. Gotta love the "don't steal my bandwidth comment" Just look for the cap While I shouldn't say this, I hope somebody takes one for th
37 LY744 : It seems that this Phelps guy has dedicated his life to redefining the word SCUM. Edit: come to think of it, one way or another this creep does not ha
38 Post contains images Solnabo : Sidenote; Roumor has it that Ann Coulter is his bastard daughter. Anyone surprised? Micke//SWE
39 Post contains images Doona : That does sound like a pretty good idea. Should we arrange a pride festival at out in Kansas for his funeral? Cheers Mats
40 LTBEWR : I love the idea of a civil lawsuit, but I am afraid the courthouse would become a 3-ring circus if it ever went to trial. The best thing to do is when
41 Itsjustme : And babes!
42 Post contains images LY744 : Well I'm gonna put you in charge of that part. Maybe Westy will volunteer too. LY744.
43 Post contains images AeroWesty : ::bat eyelashes:: You rang?
44 MD-90 : I think the Southern Baptist Convention should sue Westboro "Baptist Church" for slander or libel or something. Baptist they ain't. Don't you believe
45 Post contains images NWOrientDC10 : I agree. The press should be commended for not giving alot of coverage to this group. They haven't; that should tell you something... Good Day to all
46 L-188 : Well I hope he does, but unfortunately you raise valid reasons why he won't. I don't think libel will fly, particularly with the fact they picket eve
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