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The Truth About Air Safety  
User currently offlineFrontiercpt From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1663 times:

I was going through my bookcase, and found this book (published in 1988) that tells the reader how to avoid things, and what to watch out for. To my surprise, there was a section on air travel. Things that I stuck in are in brackets. Here is what they said about air safety. BTW, if this would be better in the Civil forum, would a mod please move it?


The Truth About Air Safety

Fly only with airlines that aviation professionals consider the best and safest. The airline watchdog groups maintain an unofficial list of the best and worst.

Best domestic carrier: Northwest Orient. It's rated highest in the U.S. for the quality and experience of its pilots, ground crews, flight attendants and airline management. Northwest Orient also has plenty of operating funds and has never cut corners on safety. It employs 12 meteorologists- other airlines employ one. Pilots have all the tools and authority they need to fly safely {all airlines do} - including the option to refuse to take off or to take a different route {again, all airlines do} Its pilots avoid turbulence at all costs {all airlines do}.

Next best: Delta, Ozark, Piedmont, TWA, U.S. Air, Western.

Best International Carriers: Lufthansa, Swissair.

Runners-up (with caution): Air France and Qantas. Both have announced plans to remove two emergency exits over wings in their 747's. If it happens, they'll be downgraded on safety.

Best aircraft: Our experts believe that you can less exposure to hazardous air travel by flying only the best aircraft.

Best: Boeing 757s and 767s. Not too far behind: 747s.

Future shock: Watch out for a new 747-400 plane and avoid it. Reasons: Eight emergency exits instead of 10 {so what would they have to say about a 737?}..two-man cockpit instead of three...nine tons of fuel in the horizontal tail, as well as the usual amount in the wings. In a crash, passengers will be immediately surrounded by fire {they would probably regardless}. Its advantage: It can fly 320 miles father than existing aircraft without refueling. It's yet to be built, but some U.S. carriers have expressed interest.

Best Hours to Fly: Obviously a big danger in flying is the chance of being involved in a midair collision. Lesson you chances by flying only at certain times of the day {no comment}.

Most Dangerous Times: 7-10 AM and 4-7 weekdays.

Safest times: After sundown. If you're flying east from California, take the red-eye.

Reservation Suggestion: Ask for a seat next to an emergency exit, or at least in the same row. If you sit over the wing, you have the option of using any of the exits.


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The next portion of the chapter goes on to make a checklist for a passenger who is flying on a commuter airline: For example:

- Make sure the pilot takes a fuel sample.
- Ask about weather conditions, and if they are bad, skip the flight.
- If all seats are full, ask if the plane is too heavy to take off.
- Make sure the pilot is using a checklist.
- Tell the pilot if you see threatening weather.
- If you see ice forming on the plane, suggest that the pilot take a bathroom break. {WTF?!}
- If the pilot can't see very far, ask him to stop the flight. {This isn't a theme-park ride people...}
- If the fuel gauge is low, suggest that you land sooner...not later. {no duh}


If your connecting flight involves a commuter airline, consider renting a car, or taking a train or a bus.

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Is it just me, or is this book absolutely ridiculous? I mean, some of it is true, but some of it sounds like it is for someone who is afraid. But come on, if I were the poor pilot who got drilled these questions...well...you could definitely knock one passenger off the manifest (literally).

Sean

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User currently offlinePurdueAv2003 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 251 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1655 times:

Quoting Frontiercpt (Thread starter):
- If you see ice forming on the plane, suggest that the pilot take a bathroom break. {WTF?!}

Didn't you know? Warm urine works great as a deicer fluid!!!  bigthumbsup 



Ptu = Ftu X Anet (not to be confused with a.net)
User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20787 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

My lord, that book is an obsessive-compulsive's dream come true! LOL


International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineFrontiercpt From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

Quoting PurdueAv2003 (Reply 1):
Warm urine works great as a deicer fluid!!!

I'm sure that the smell is also a de-passengerizer when those pesky passengers won't deplane!  Silly


User currently offlineFrontiercpt From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
My lord, that book is an obsessive-compulsive's dream come true! LOL

LOL, my thoughts exactly! I should give it to my mom, she would drive my dad nuts with all those questions lol.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

Quoting PurdueAv2003 (Reply 1):
Didn't you know? Warm urine works great as a deicer fluid!!!

Been there.....Done it.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineFrontiercpt From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 5):
Been there.....Done it.

But I mean, it's not like the pilot can just hop out of his seat, clamber onto the wing and let all hell break loose....or did I miss something?  Silly


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

Quoting Frontiercpt (Reply 6):

I believe the idea was to land the airplane.


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1624 times:

I wrote it!!!

Signed,


B744F


User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1618 times:

Quoting Frontiercpt (Thread starter):
- Make sure the pilot takes a fuel sample.
- Ask about weather conditions, and if they are bad, skip the flight.
- If all seats are full, ask if the plane is too heavy to take off.
- Make sure the pilot is using a checklist.
- Tell the pilot if you see threatening weather.
- If you see ice forming on the plane, suggest that the pilot take a bathroom break. {WTF?!}
- If the pilot can't see very far, ask him to stop the flight. {This isn't a theme-park ride people...}
- If the fuel gauge is low, suggest that you land sooner...not later. {no duh}

By all means you must follow these suggestions. There is nothing that pilots appreciate more than honest suggestions on how to do their job. And if the cockpit door is closed run up to the front of the plane, bang on the door and demand entry. Authorities will appreciate your safety awareness.



"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline." Frank Zappa
User currently offlineFrontiercpt From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1606 times:

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 9):
And if the cockpit door is closed run up to the front of the plane, bang on the door and demand entry. Authorities will appreciate your safety awareness.

Exactly, that is why I think it I so ridiculous. I mean, maybe back in 1988, they could have just mosied right on into the cockpit (but I'm a 90's boy, don't flame me), but the entire thing just seem so ridiculous.


User currently offlineBobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1597 times:

If you see a gremlin on the wing, steal a gun, open the window, and shoot the gremlin.

Signed,
William Shatner


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1597 times:

Quoting Frontiercpt (Reply 10):

They're referring to when commuter airlines were really "commuter" and not so much "airlines." Think <15 seats, a cockpit door probably didn't exist.


User currently offlineOldman55 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1525 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1581 times:

Quoting Bobster2 (Reply 11):
If you see a gremlin on the wing, steal a gun, open the window, and shoot the gremlin.

or do the same thing to a certain 90,s boy asking stupid questions  Wow!



too bad most of us get too soon old and too late smart
User currently offlineFrontiercpt From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 12):
They're referring to when commuter airlines were really "commuter" and not so much "airlines." Think <15 seats, a cockpit door probably didn't exist.

Ya, that would definitely make sense.  Smile

Quoting Oldman55 (Reply 13):
or do the same thing to a certain 90,s boy asking stupid questions

Now now Richie, just because your jealous that I'm young, and will be younger for much longer than you ever were, doesn't mean that you should publicly embarass yourself in front of all of a.net!

Hmm...I think that is the 2nd one that I have won tonight? Just give in, your too old to fight it out anymore you old prick.


User currently offlineOldman55 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1525 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1565 times:

Now,Now, Now Seany name-calling is not very nice you smart-ass kid!!!!


too bad most of us get too soon old and too late smart
User currently offlineFrontiercpt From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1565 times:

Quoting Oldman55 (Reply 15):
Now,Now, Now Seany name-calling is not very nice you smart-ass kid!!!!

*Holds up mirror*


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1553 times:

Quoting Frontiercpt (Reply 6):
But I mean, it's not like the pilot can just hop out of his seat, clamber onto the wing and let all hell break loose....or did I miss something?

Well it is a bit harder on a high wing like a Cessna.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineFrontiercpt From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1507 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 17):
Well it is a bit harder on a high wing like a Cessna.

Well, if your gunna get nit picky...  Silly


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