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Calling All Spanish Speakers... Part 2  
User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4756 posts, RR: 31
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4160 times:

A couple of weeks ago, having nothing better to do, I started a thread asking fellow Spanish speakers their opinions on the different varieties of Spanish out there. Calling All Spanish Speakers... (by Carmenlu15 May 25 2006 in Non Aviation)

This simple thread managed to bring together people from all around the world, thus proving that our common ties go far beyond the language.

Given the popularity of the original thread (now at 210+ replies), and the fact that some people here are unable to switch providers and get a better internet connection  stirthepot , I hereby bring you Part 2.

As I said before, ¡Que siga la fiesta!

- Carmen

P. D. Aún sigo pensando que el mejor español se habla en Guate...  duck 


What do I know, I'm just an 'immature troublemaker with only a passing interest in aviation' (or so they say)
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User currently offlineB747_A340 From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4157 times:

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Thread starter):
Aún sigo pensando que el mejor español se habla en Guate...

Y el mas piosh tambien seño...



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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4148 times:

Que se friege el Aleman! My German teacher decided to flunk me because I was coming to the US. Forgot my German because of that.

Quoting B747_A340 (Reply 1):
Y el mas piosh tambien se�o...

 rotfl   rotfl 

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Thread starter):
�Que siga la fiesta!

So what is the typical party music in Guatemala?


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

Quoting B747_A340 (Reply 213- Thread I):
Plus, it seems that Mexicans are somewhat arrogant when they compare themselves to other Latin Americans (a lot like Argentinians, except Mexico is a lot closer to Guatemala). So I think it is a sort of penis envy in Freudian terms... and also a reaction to some less than diplomatic comments sometimes made by some Mexicans.

I think with Mexico is more a sheer nationalism more than arrogance. I really don't think Mexicans are arrogant, they are just extremely nationalist, much more than argentines who are just generically aloof about Latin America (and again that is a stereotype not a rule).



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User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4134 times:

Nooo el Alemán es bien!
Qué siga la fiesta

Thing is... I don't speak a word of German but I like it!
There's a freind from Germany coming soon here.



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User currently offlineB747_A340 From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4126 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 3):
I think with Mexico is more a sheer nationalism more than arrogance. I really don't think Mexicans are arrogant, they are just extremely nationalist, much more than argentines who are just generically aloof about Latin America (and again that is a stereotype not a rule).

Either way, Guatemalans aren't too fond of Mexico... or their different accents... unless we are talking about Cancun... Then everyone loves Mexico, it seems to be the new "in" destination for the summer.

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 2):
So what is the typical party music in Guatemala?

It really depends. Last summer it seemed to be reggaeton (which I don't really like) and American stuff like the Black Eyed Peas. But then again... I only went partying in Kahlua and Paparazzi... which are not particularly representative of the majority of the Guatemalan population.



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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4122 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 3):
I think with Mexico is more a sheer nationalism more than arrogance

YEP! My Mexican wife and her family, living in the US for more than 20 years, are still very, very nationalistic, to the point that we have almost gotten into  box  over which country is better, Mexico or Ecuador.

(Looking over my shoulder) Ecuador is better of course.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4115 times:

I just found this in my inbox. Read it from top to bottom first, and then from bottom to top. You'll then notice that the content of it resembles a lot what we have to put up with as far as politics goes:

>En nuestro partido político
>cumplimos con lo que prometemos.
>Sólo los imbéciles pueden creer que
>no lucharemos contra la corrupción.
>Porque si hay algo seguro para nosotros es que
>la honestidad y la transparencia son fundamentales
>para alcanzar nuestros ideales.
>Demostraremos que es una gran estupidez creer que
>las mafias seguirán formando parte del gobierno como en otros tiempos.
>Aseguramos sin resquicio de duda que
>la justicia social será el fin principal de nuestro mandato.
>Pese a eso, todavía hay gente estúpida que piensa que
>se pueda seguir gobernando con las artimañas de la vieja política
>Cuando asumamos el poder, haremos lo imposible para que
>se acaben las situaciones privilegiadas y el tráfico de influencias
>No permitiremos de ningún modo que
>nuestros niños mueran de hambre
>Cumpliremos nuestros propósitos aunque
>los recursos económicos se hayan agotado
>ejerceremos el poder hasta que
>Comprendan desde ahora que
>Somos el Partido...., la "nueva política".
>
>
>Ahora leélo de abajo para arriba, a partir de la útlima frase.


User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4108 times:

Quoting B747_A340 (Reply 5):
It really depends. Last summer it seemed to be reggaeton (which I don't really like) and American stuff like the Black Eyed Peas. But then again... I only went partying in Kahlua and Paparazzi... which are not particularly representative of the majority of the Guatemalan population.

Reggaeton is the new plague...
I hadn't heard anything so outrageous in a long time, I hope it fades away soon because it's invaded not only Guatemala... but most of Latin America as well.



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User currently offlineB747_A340 From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 4101 times:

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 8):
Reggaeton is the new plague...
I hadn't heard anything so outrageous in a long time, I hope it fades away soon because it's invaded not only Guatemala... but most of Latin America as well.


And Spain. I hate how every song is the same... and the lyrics are idiotic to say the least.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 4098 times:

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 8):
Reggaeton is the new plague...
I hadn't heard anything so outrageous in a long time, I hope it fades away soon because it's invaded not only Guatemala... but most of Latin America as well.

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I hate it when the local radio stations put up songs that are Reggaeton and people here at work brag about how good it is. It's disgusting.

Quoting B747_A340 (Reply 9):
I hate how every song is the same... and the lyrics are idiotic to say the least.

 checkmark 

It's even worse than idiotic if you have ever listened to that crap called "La Gasolina". Thankfully, whenever I listen to radio, I listen either to 103.5, which plays the best hits of the 80's and 90's, or 107.5 Real Rock, which is partly transmitted from Miami.


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6095 posts, RR: 31
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4091 times:
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Quoting Derico (Reply 3):
I think with Mexico is more a sheer nationalism more than arrogance. I really don't think Mexicans are arrogant, they are just extremely nationalist,

As you said for your country, this stereotype that protrays us Mexicans as extemly nationalistic is just that, an stereotype. I do recognize that many Mexicans think that Mexico is the Canada of LatAm. And I also recognize that many Mexicans travel abroad with that attitude. However, many educated Mexicans do not have that attitude and are the first to recognize that we are no Germany. But if you ask me, I'd have to agree. It's more nationalism than arrogance.

Quoting B747_A340 (Reply 5):
Either way, Guatemalans aren't too fond of Mexico... or their different accents... unless we are talking about Cancun... Then everyone loves Mexico, it seems to be the new "in" destination for the summer.

I hate Cancun. And for years, we have and still support Guatemala as well as Central America. Think "El Pacto de San Jose" or the 350,000 Guatemalan refugees that stayed in Mexico throughout the 1980's. Mexico was also instrumental in the talks that finally ended your genocidal civil war. I'm not saying any Central American citizen should bow before any Mexican, but, comme on, cut us some slack.

I hate, hate regaeeton. I thought I could not hate anything more than Rap, but then Regaeeton came around. Ugh, gives me shivers.



MGGS
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 11):
I hate, hate regaeeton. I thought I could not hate anything more than Rap, but then Regaeeton came around. Ugh, gives me shivers.

Yo regrese a las raices de mi pueblo, con la cumbia.

So any of you guys like it?


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

Cumbia Villera! Lyrics about drugs, whores, thieves, gangs, and lost love.

LOL, just joking. Argentina's Villera is very different from the Cumbia you think of. Villera is more like Rap in that it is the music of the guetto, the immigrants, and the urban poor.



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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4084 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 13):
Villera is more like Rap in that it is the music of the guetto, the immigrants, and the urban poor.

For me back then it was the music for the poor, so normally we wouldnt listen to it. But someone had 'Caballo Viejo' playing on a store in Cozumel and the memories rushed back into my head.

See, I grew up kinda funny. I was born a raised in Guayaquil, but we had (and still have) a beach house in a small fishing village (2000 population when I was growing up) and cumbias where some of the only entertainment my 'pueblo' had back then.


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4084 times:

I listen to some Villera groups, many just totally dismiss the music because of it's grittyness. Some of the lyrics are just a riot.

So I can listen to Villera as well as rock nacional argentino, I never deny myself the opportunities to listen do different genres.



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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4078 times:

My understanding was that Villeras are a little different. I'm more into the Colombian cumbia style. For playing piano, I prefer classical and some jazz. And for other stuff, a little classic rock or some 'nu' rock.

But for the moment, I'll stick with my cumbias. The hot summer here just lends itself to that type of music.


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6095 posts, RR: 31
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4071 times:
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what I like is "corridos" The corrido del caballo blanco, el corrido de mi prieto alazan, the corrido of Monterrey. This are a mixture of cumbia with mariachi music and are works of art. The lyrics make you hair stand in the back of your head.


MGGS
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4069 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 17):
This are a mixture of cumbia with mariachi music and are works of art

Agree, I was listening to some cumbias done with mariachi groups and the mixtures were very interesting. Those songs are very complex, some of them consisting of three different percussion instruments, for example.


User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4065 times:

Quoting B747_A340 (Reply 9):
It's even worse than idiotic if you have ever listened to that crap called "La Gasolina". Thankfully, whenever I listen to radio, I listen either to 103.5, which plays the best hits of the 80's and 90's, or 107.5 Real Rock, which is partly transmitted from Miami.

That thing stinks... and they play that even in MTV (well, MTV is coming the bad way from long ago so I'm not really surprised).
Those people making daddy yankee their idol and then being like "duuuude this is so latin, my roots my people" and they don't even know what the name of their "papito gringo" means. Using any public transportation that has a radio is a reggaeton ridden torture here.

Quoting B747_A340 (Reply 9):
And Spain. I hate how every song is the same... and the lyrics are idiotic to say the least.

It reached there?
Damn!...
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The cumbia villera from Argentina is quite different than the cumbia of northern south america. The villera is as described for what I know, the other cumbia has cultural values and the lyrics are not so bad, the music has some work and value on it. I'm not a fan of our cumbia either... but it's different than the villera and I think i'd prefer ours over villera, even though as I said I'm not a fan of it (or anything tropical for that matter... only can bear counted salsa songs, but no more).



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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 4061 times:

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 19):
I'm not a fan of our cumbia either

Tell you what, neither did I for a very long time. It has been less than a month since all those Colombian cumbias got in my blood and havent left. I'm 34, so you have a couple of years, perhaps, until you like them.

So, what typical cumbia songs from Colombia am I missing?


User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2709 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 17):
what I like is "corridos" The corrido del caballo blanco, el corrido de mi prieto alazan, the corrido of Monterrey. This are a mixture of cumbia with mariachi music and are works of art. The lyrics make you hair stand in the back of your head.

I can't stand that music! Are you talking about banda Sinaloense? Sorry, but when I hear that I cringe with embarrasement and walk fast from that place pretending that I never heard it. It's so chunti!

On the other hand I think that some Norteñas sound more pleasing to the ear.

Cumbia, I like! Of course, what Latino party is a good party, if you don't have cumbia Colombiana.   

I love Reggaeton!!! Don Omar, Daddy Yankee! Ivi Queen - la diva, la caballota, la potra, la perra!

My visit to Argentina made me understand and fall in love with Tango.

Of course, my mariachi, is my mariachi. What Mexican doesn't feel that proud moment when you hear it sung by great people like: Rocio Durcal, Vicente, or Luis Miguel.

Sabes, AR385, cuando estaba en Buenos Aires y me preguntaban que de donde venia usualmente lo mas facil era decir que de Mexico. Y la gente se portaba tan bien. Lo primero que decian era "Mexico Lindo y Querido" Y se agarraban hablando sin parrar. Era sorprendete que les llamaba mucho la atencion la cultura Mexicana y me hacian preguntas sin parrar. Hay veces que ya no sabia que contestar y les tenia que decir la verdad que no era mas que un pocho pero igual se portaban muy bien.

Carmen

Carmen, I've always found Guatemalans to be very nice people. I sometimes think that perhaps Guatemalans might find Mexicans annoying (because it is true that we can be a little arrogant with our nationalism), but I've always found all Guetamalans I've met very easy going people. On the other hand, there was always a great rivalry between Salvadoreans and Mexicans. The Salvadoreans have a complex of being small and the Mexicans are just a little indifferent due to their size, and sometimes the two just do not click. But I have never noticed that to be the case between the Guatemalans and the Mexicans.

  LatinPlane

[Edited 2006-06-07 07:09:41]

User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4756 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 4052 times:

Quoting B747_A340 (Reply 1):
Y el mas piosh tambien seño...

 rotfl 

Una pregunta, ¿cada cuánto te echas el viaje hasta Guate?

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 4):
Nooo el Alemán es bien!

Es bonito aprenderlo, pero un tanto complicado. Aparte que de lo poco que aprendí, ya ni me acuerdo...

Quoting B747_A340 (Reply 5):
Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 2):
So what is the typical party music in Guatemala?

It really depends. Last summer it seemed to be reggaeton (which I don't really like) and American stuff like the Black Eyed Peas. But then again... I only went partying in Kahlua and Paparazzi... which are not particularly representative of the majority of the Guatemalan population.

Depends on the place as well. In the "fiestas de pueblo" you will usually hear marimba. Since all my family on Dad's side comes from the countryside (Alta Verapaz), that is pretty much the norm for celebrations at home. You should have seen my grandparents dancing... Grandma still tries to teach us how to dance whenever she has the chance. Not that we are nearly as good as Grandpa was...

Now, if you ask me... I can't recall the last time I went partying, must have been at least a year ago.  crazy 

Quoting B747_A340 (Reply 9):
Quoting 757MDE (Reply 8):
Reggaeton is the new plague...
I hadn't heard anything so outrageous in a long time, I hope it fades away soon because it's invaded not only Guatemala... but most of Latin America as well.


And Spain. I hate how every song is the same... and the lyrics are idiotic to say the least.

It's gone all the way to Spain? Poor you...  vomit 

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 19):
Using any public transportation that has a radio is a reggaeton ridden torture here.

Tell me about it... And I have to deal with that daily. Ugh!

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 7):
I just found this in my inbox. Read it from top to bottom first, and then from bottom to top. You'll then notice that the content of it resembles a lot what we have to put up with as far as politics goes:

I don't know whether to  rotfl  or to  cry ...



What do I know, I'm just an 'immature troublemaker with only a passing interest in aviation' (or so they say)
User currently offlineB747_A340 From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4048 times:

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 22):
Una pregunta, ¿cada cuánto te echas el viaje hasta Guate?

I was born and raised in Guatemala City... lived there for like 14 years and lately I have been moving around a lot, but I generally go back once a year. Just to see my old friends.

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 22):
It's gone all the way to Spain? Poor you...

Yeah... los canarios seem to be quite fond of it... and a lot of the stuff that plays here is actually by bands that come from the Canary Islands (apart from the standard daddy yankee obviously)



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User currently offlineFlyingbabydoc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4045 times:

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 22):
Es bonito aprenderlo, pero un tanto complicado. Aparte que de lo poco que aprendí, ya ni me acuerdo...

No es tan complicado, cuando empiezas a praticarlo todos los dias. En verdad escribir en Espanol, con todas las reglas y los verbos irregulares me parece aun mas complicado que aleman...

Y el mejor espanol pienso yo se habla en... Uruguay! Alli aprendi a hablar "portunol"...

Saludos a todos.

Alex


25 B747_A340 : I beg to differ... we don't split verbs. Or have a rigid structure to form sentences. And even while there are a million different accents... all of
26 AndesSMF : In the north of Ecuador, provincia de Esmeraldas, where most of my mothers family is, the instrument to play is the marimba! Didnt know it reached to
27 B747_A340 : It is the national instrument of Guatemala. It is pretty amazing and versatile. and I LOVE German for that reason. It has soo much character.
28 Post contains images SFOMEX : Hi Carmen! This thread was a great idea... We should get our act straight. Are we using only Spanish? Both, English and Spanish? Only English? It'd be
29 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : We're always easy going... as long as you don't bring football into the equation. That I didn't know... It's different in our case, Salvadoreans and
30 Post contains images Flyingbabydoc : No, but trying to memorize all the irregular forms and all the tenses (imperativo, subjuntivo, etc...) is also quite a challenge in spanish. Not to m
31 757MDE : Yo no he aprendido nada! Pero con escuchar Ramms+ein o ver el noticiero de la DW tengo para alegrarme! jejeje. Make that two! That's why I LOVE movin
32 JJJ : Not only here, first place I heard 'La gasolina' was in Greece!!!
33 AR385 : I'm not sure banda sinaloense sings corridos. I do know about the best band, it's called "Los Dorados de Villa" They are beyond fantastic. What is ch
34 LTU932 : This reminds me of a curious story from a former classmate. He told me that he was born in Spain, though he and his parents are German, his father be
35 AR385 : It doesn't matter whichever Romantic language you use or are familiar with. Learning Latin (which I don't see the necessity of doing that) is extreme
36 LTU932 : I know, this guy's story had tought me that lesson in advance. However in Germany, Latin is part of the midlevel curriculum but you can actually choo
37 Post contains images MD11junkie : El "uruguayo" es exactamente el mismo castellano que en la Argentina, sólo que un poco más despacio. And you learned portuñol there? You should he
38 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Spanglish.  Well, there was that "non-English" thread a while back... but I wanted to keep it on the safe side, so I started the thread in English.
39 B747_A340 : If they all speak Hochdeutsch (a standard version of the language) then yes, otherwise it would be pretty complicated. I have friends from different
40 Mt99 : Hahah - i think it has to do with the fact of the soccer history between both countries. Mexicans have invested lots and lots of money in El Salvador
41 Post contains images AR385 : I'm sorry, but I differ from you. Please read my explanation on this subject on the first thread. We do not speak Castillian. I'll give you a quick s
42 AndesSMF : In Ecuador, the marimba came about from African slaves, so I presume it is the same in other places, especially the Caribbean.
43 Post contains images JJJ : That's depending on how you define it At this side of the pond the terms 'Spanish' and 'Castillian' are almost always interchangeable. The only diffe
44 B747_A340 : AR385 Having studied Linguistics, I can tell you this is a matter of controversy. Most conservative linguists consider Castillian as exclusively the d
45 AR385 : Yes it is a matter of controversy. I agree. That's the problem that I have. Maybe Castellano and Español are interchangeable as synonims, but not as
46 B747_A340 : Don't take what I say as fact... I am giving you my opinion based on my training, but as many things in life... No one has the right answer. But in m
47 Post contains images Latinplane : It is obvious that MD11Junkie thinks that it is red, while LatinPlane believes it is actually blue. I thought my friend how to drink mate! He said it
48 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : People, thanks for the linguistics lesson. I surely learned a lot from your input. I read not too long ago someone from the European Union (can't reme
49 Flyingbabydoc : Si, seguro que son muy similares. En verdad aprendi "portunol" con argentinos, nuestros amigos de Moreno (Pva. Bs.As.). I have heard portenos speak p
50 AndesSMF : OK, so lets get to some real fun stuff. I know for a fact that certain local words have different meaning in different countries. So in Ecuador, I rem
51 Carmenlu15 : 'Chingar' has multiple meanings in Guatemala. The most common is 'molestar' ("¡Deja de estar chingando!"). It is also used as expletive ("¿Qué chi
52 Post contains images Latinplane : I meant to say 'I taught' my friend how to drink mate tea. Guatemala has a soccer team?
53 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : No, we don't. We have a football team. And we would have had a better chance of classifying to the WC if your team hadn't lost against Trinidad & Tob
54 Post contains images Luisde8cd : Hehe, you almost got it. A rancho here is a poor house made of exposed bricks and zinc rooftop. A place where lots of these houses are located (slum,
55 Marcus : If you like trance music (please do not mistake it with "dance" music), for the past few years there has been a group of DJ's from Tijuana called "Col
56 Derico : Not just Brasil... Chile, Uruguay, Mexico, United States, Europe, etc. I think a big reason there is a steretype of aloofness is because of how we te
57 AR385 : In some regions of Mexico, (Zacatecas) "Pisar" means to drink alcohol. In Monterrey it's "Pistear" We don't use "chaval" they use it in Spain. Additi
58 Post contains images Latinplane : Hater! Para que te quedes mas fria! Perdona Carmen, pero es que cuando esta el mundial se me sale lo Mexicano. Ya despues se me quita y entonces pued
59 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : ¿En un par de semanas, cuando termine la primera ronda, verdad? (Just kidding, actually I'd like to see a CONCACAF team reaching far for a change)
60 Post contains images LTU932 : And if I'm not mistaken, chingar stands for joking around in Costa Rican Spanish, but I'd need some help from one of our Costa Rican members here to
61 B747_A340 : In the Canary Islands a Zipote is a guys pen!s.... lol In Guatemala pistear means to bribe someone, as in "Tuve que pistear al policia para que me de
62 Post contains images JJJ : As well as in mainland Spain Spelled with an initial 'c' btw.
63 IAH777 : I don't have much to add, except that even my limited Spanish has come in very useful at work. I'm far from fluent, but I took 2 years in high school
64 Post contains images MD11junkie : You're correct, but we barely use it. Exactly, that's is why we barely use it. Bowling is not much of big sport here. We use words like 'pifiaste', i
65 AM744 : In defence of the so attacked and hated Mexico City Spanish, the generalization of "Tepito" Spanish is as unfair as trying to portray New York or Lond
66 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Nice one, I'll have to remember that... BTW, your spelling/grammar is perfect! Relax, no one is attacking Mexican Spanish. I don't know which comment
67 Mt99 : Funny story - I went to a pic-nic hosted by some of my spanish friends with a "Asi hablamos en El Salvador" (This is how we speak in En Salvador) Tsh
68 AndesSMF : Sorry, that was me...I apologize. Being married to a Mexican, I know that Tepito Spanish is not representative of Mexico, just an example of exactly
69 Post contains images B747_A340 : Sorry... I don't generally have to write such a word . And actually I have only heard it from my Canarian friends... But honestly... there are a zill
70 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Priceless! Shame on you. On the topic of local words and phrases, it is said that you can spot a Guatemalan in a store from miles ahead, because we a
71 757MDE : Colombia does that as well, and also for non tangible things... "Regáleme su número de teléfono"
72 Theredbaron : What a fun thread..... Now to keep going on the words that are different in different countries. A priest friend of mine traveled to Brasil, and he go
73 Post contains images AndesSMF : When I first met my wife, my Mexican mannerism where non-existent. So I mentioned, in front of her very conservative mother, that I thought the expre
74 Post contains images Latinplane : Ya te dije Carmen. Durante el mundial afuera la hermandad la latinoamericana. Durante el mundial somos enemigos hasta la muerte! I always made sure t
75 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Pues por lo mismo, después de la primera ronda se termina el mundial para ustedes, entonces todos felices y contentos otra vez... But of course! Hay
76 Post contains images Latinplane : Aunque sea vamos a poder decir que fuimos y tratamos. No como otros que ni siquiera calificaron. Y ya dejate de joder y vete a postear tu foto al nue
77 AR385 : I'll hijack this thread, because only Latins are going to understand. I just broke up whit my fiancee of three years. Right bow I feel angry, Almos fu
78 AndesSMF : Mariachis con cervezas pueden ayudar...lo siento por el dolor que debes sentir ahora. The last time I had a breakup of that nature, I couldnt take it
79 Post contains images LTU932 : Pero alemán es aún más divertido cuando se trata de decir profanidades.
80 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Ni modo, como cierto equipo se dejó ganar en el último partido de la clasificación... Sorry, no tengo ninguna reciente, y no se vale poner repetid
81 Post contains images Latinplane : Ya dejate de poner pretextos. Que de NADA sirve! El mundial esta por empesar y lo que es cierto es que los que estan estan y los que no, no! AR385 Sa
82 AR385 : Well, at least I am now free to go after Carmen. If she doesn't mind the baggage.
83 Flyingbabydoc : Sorry to hear that. But who knows? Sometimes a misfortune is a blessing in disguise. Yo tenia una novia en EEUU (fiancee) y estuvimos juntos por 2 1/
84 Post contains images MD11junkie : Richie, Nada mejor que el argentino. Juro que el argentino o el mexicano son los dos latinos más graciosos para escuchar insultar a alguien o algo.
85 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Yo sólo me estoy defendiendo... ¿Quién empezó, pues? De cualquier modo, ya sólo falta 1/2 hora para que empiece... I never said I was free... Th
86 Post contains images B747_A340 : Being raised in Guatemala I still say "voy a hacer pipi" when I need to pee... Needless to say all of my friends make fun of me. That and I still cal
87 AR385 : If I'm not mistaken, at least in Rio, they say "Porra!" pretty much like we say "puta madre!" or shit!
88 757MDE : I once said to a Brazilian girl that was around when taking her somewhere she needed to go: "Montémonos en esa buseta"... She gave me the look... I t
89 B747_A340 : Buseta means pu$$y in portuguese HAHAHAHA. It was actually the first phrase I learnt in Portuguese." Eu quero tua buseta"
90 757MDE : Aahh! That explains it all... What a difference! Little bus against Pu$$y. Long life languages! Anyways, she was very hot, it would not have been a b
91 AndesSMF : What about that most dreaded of words when you start learning English: The word is bitch. To beginning English speakers, the words bitch and beach sou
92 Post contains images Latinplane : LOL! Sabes que solo estoy jugando. Tu sabes que yo te quiero mucho Y ya esta en full swing! Ecuador le va ganando a Polonia! LatinPlane
93 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Naah... my mom still calls grandma Mami *everybody singing* Ole Ole Ole Ole, Oleeeee, Oleeee...
94 Post contains images LTU932 : So does she, but then I don't particularly care about my grandparents, because my grandmother almost caused my parents to divorce for wasting the mon
95 Luisde8cd : Aqui en Venezuela tambien se le dice buseta a los autobuses cortos! Que coincidencia.... Saludos desde Caracas, Luis
96 AR385 : One of the reasons why casinos are not allowed by law in Mexico.
97 AR385 : The Polish team made it to the WC because of the eliminatory group it was in. They are not really good. I'll be surprised if they make it past the fir
98 RCS763AV : I think they do have a little influence, but im not sure. Regarding the offending posts made by 757MDE to me in the last thread: 1. That i dont like
99 757MDE : Facts and not words, I'm not the only one that thinks like that in regards of you and your omnipresent attitude. Now, I'm not here to fight, if I don'
100 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Thankfully, my grandparents always were there for me to help me deal with my parents' divorce. That, and Ecuador really kicked a--errr, the ball and
101 AndesSMF : Kicked ass, messed them up, showed them who's boss, etc. Their defense is very good. They better, for my wife's sake.
102 AR385 : While no one will tell you this, you need to behave like and adult. And discuss and present issues that way, like an adult. If you cannot, or will no
103 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Long ago... I was 6 at the time. Tough times, but what can I say? I pretty much got over it.
104 AR385 : Yeah...I know about tough times.
105 Post contains images LTU932 : You seem to have rational and loving grandparents in this case. Mine may have been loving to me, but in the end they are not only greedy, lack person
106 AR385 : The goalie returned today (SAT) in the morning. The question is, How will he play. Will he use the death of his father as motivation? or will it scre
107 LTU932 : I heard about it in the news, and it seems Sánchez is highly motivated and says he's ready to play. In any case, I wish him well and my deepest cond
108 757MDE : Por mi ningún problema. Pero si me buscan pleito tampoco me voy a quedar callado. De todas maneras, ¡vengo en paz!. Ditto I only have one grandfath
109 LTU932 : I don't know my paternal grandparents either, and neither did my older stepbrothers. They died when my father, who's going on 62 this year, was 12. I
110 Post contains images AR385 : We won VIVA MEXICO, CABRONES! Y ARGENTINA TAMBIEN
111 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Ouch. Putting it in perspective, mine has been a walk in the park... Yup, I consider myself fortunate in that aspect. So you've finally come to your
112 Post contains images AndesSMF : I was concerned for a little bit this morning, but in the end I was glad to see Mexico won. Still more excited about Ecuador. But with Mexico's win,
113 Post contains images Latinplane : Les dimos en la torre compadre! Me voy a echar unas tequilas no mas para celebrar el triunfo. Como crees que nos va ir con Angola y Portugal? MexPlan
114 Post contains images LTU932 : Nope, but they are the number 3 contender behind Portugal and Italy.
115 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : On a totally unrelated note: You know Martin, I've started to understand your feelings towards chicken. Last Sunday I had pollo en crema. On Monday I
116 AR385 : Angola es un equipo debil y sin experiencia. Varios jugadores ni siquiera juegan en un equipo. Me parece que Mexico si no los subestima, les va a gan
117 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : One question I meant to ask, but forgot... I was wondering, does bitch have the same negative connotations as its equivalent in Spanish? It's consider
118 Aer : But then again Guate - Ticos is a sensitive subject. Besides, "we're Central Americans but we don't do anything with them or have anything to do with
119 AndesSMF : Si, casi completamente. The word bitch can also mean complaining a lot. Like 'quit bitching!'
120 AR385 : Ay, Carmen porque carajos son tan complicadas ustedes las mujeres? Ahora entiendo porque solo recientemente existen equipos de soccer femeniles. Ya te
121 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Exactly. As I said, a flame war in the making... Like, for instance, the new Central American passport... guess which country is the one not issuing
122 Post contains images LTU932 : You mean Gkirk? I was told someone did this, so they could finally get their flag from Johan. It might have been Gkirk, I'm not sure though. As for m
123 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : N00b Yup, it was Gkirk. As I said, not the kind of reputation you would like to be associated with...
124 Post contains images LTU932 : Well, don't give me ideas, or I'll start something similar so we can get the flags of all 16 German states.
125 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : A word of warning then: last time we had a non-English thread, our resident sheep sha farmer got a lot of flaming... so be prepared.
126 Post contains links and images Latinplane : "Just wait till 2010..." Si pues... Si pues... Just wait till infinity Guatemala en los Mundiales Resultado general: Sin participación 1930 a 1954 -
127 Post contains images Aer : BTW when to we start issuing it? No se te olvide que ni ustedes se entienden a si mismas jejejje
128 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Con el super equipo que estamos armando, ¿cómo no vamos a llegar? I think it's already being issued since February, but I'm not sure. Vaya, gracias
129 Aer : Ja, con ese equipo llegamos mañana!
130 Post contains images Latinplane : GUATEMALA... GUATEMALA... GUATEMALA... GUATEMALA! LatinPlane
131 AR385 : CarmenLu, I am in love with you, my nights go by and I cannot sleep thinking about the day I will finally meet you. But the chicken is in the middle.
132 Post contains images LTU932 : OK, before Carmen starts growing feathers, come down to Costa Rica, let's have a few cold beers at La Candela (where I recently had some nice fried c
133 Post contains images Marcus : While we are on the subject of who will win the World Cup............some mathematical models predict a Mexican championship and this is why...... Che
134 Post contains images Latinplane : Ay Marcus... Don't jinx it it! :D Maybe in that time Guatemala can also finaly be able to feel what its like to go to the worldcup. (Otra vez jodiend
135 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Bueno, ahora que la FIFA está rotando los mundiales entre las distintas regiones, tarde o temprano va a caer uno en Centroamérica... (we can hope,
136 Post contains images AR385 : Uuuuuh. Carmen is not going to like this. Are you saying I need a "few" cold beers before meeting Carmen? How many are a few?
137 Post contains images MD11junkie : And you're gonna put in Batistuta?! LOL - I predict a pretty well kept goal... your rivals Muuuuuy tirado de los pelos, pero curiosamente ingenioso/m
138 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Ha ha ha. You know what people? That's it. You are no longer welcome to visit Guate. You people are so mean...
139 RCS763AV : Add to that the Caleños/Vallunos. They can be really offending, its very funny.
140 Post contains images LTU932 : Well, at least as many as LOT767-300ER drinks daily. Yup: she should lay off the daily chicken before we are forced to do something impulsive or simp
141 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : You'd be better off buying the whole brewery in that case. Impulsive? Weird? Oh sh*t... Guess I'll have to negotiate with my boss to include personal
142 Post contains images AndesSMF : Dont pay any attention to those boys, Carmen, you know I like my morenas. Even my daughter is proud of being a morena, y no le gusta para nada cuando
143 Post contains images LTU932 : In your wildest dreams we're next. It's you who are next!
144 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : ..................MP W D L GF GA Pts Ecuador.......2...2..0..0..5....0....6 Germany......2....2..0..0..5....2....6 Poland.........2....0..0..2..0....
145 Post contains images LTU932 : Yes, but the numbers will lose importance once we win against Ecuador.
146 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Good advice, I shall be following it.    That's the attitude! Now, that brings me to another question... You know how in LatAm, when a woman is wal
147 Post contains images LTU932 : It's very simple: you got to a hair stylist and tell him to put as much peroxide as possible on your hair, so it turns very blond.
148 AndesSMF : Yeah, right! Remember, you scored 4 goals on the first match, 1 in the second. We scored 2 in the first, 3 in the second. We beat Poland by 2 goals.
149 AR385 : In Mexico, anyone with hair not jet-black, will usually be called a guero/guera which is blond or blonde. It's consider a compliment. Wherever I go,
150 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : The chances of that happening are about as much as you getting a haircut.   Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. I'm not that dark colored; in fa
151 AndesSMF : Been there, done THAT. Exactly the same case with my wife and her two brothers.
152 AR385 : Talking about women...I need an answer to a question I have, from the point of view of a Latam girl. As an aside, more chapters are coming.
153 Post contains images Tsaord : Could someone help me with a litle something. In Spain, how do you pronounce your V's? Is it like a "B" or does Castillian Spanish make a distinction
154 AR385 : At least in Mexico there is a clear distinction on the pronunciation of the two letters. However, in writing, it's hard to explain. "B" is harder and
155 Post contains images LTU932 : So Andes, where are you, now that Ecuador lost? We beat you guys 3:0 and you're in for a beating against England this sunday. That well you know me?
156 AR385 : Ecuador will beat England hands down. No worries Andes. The British are in for a big surprise.
157 Post contains images Latinplane : So, anyway, after watching the past two games in which Mexico has poorly played against Angola and Portugal, I've pretty much lost all my faith in Me
158 AndesSMF : Well, we played with the third string, the star players were resting for the upcoming defeat of England. They better, my Ecuador jersey comes in tomo
159 Post contains images Marcus : Latinplane you are a "vendepatrias" The Mexican "Decepcion Nacional" does not need anyones help to suck, but you cheering for the opossing team!?!?!?!
160 AR385 : Latinplane needs to be disowned. Es un malinchista vendepatrias. We will win over Argentina for sure, and you'll be surprised. The one with issues is
161 AndesSMF : Dont tell me she's like my mom! My mom is quite the futbol fanatic and will cheer the team on like any young fan.
162 AR385 : When Argentina plays, screw any other team. She "lets" us cheer for Mexico, but now that she is the sole proprietor of the family's estate since my f
163 AndesSMF : Ah, I see. Well, you could lock her up or watch the game at another place. And if Mexico wins, prepare to be 'disowned' for a little while.
164 Post contains images Latinplane : yeah, yeah, yeah... I wouldn't be acting this way if the national team wasn't such a disapointment! You can excomunicate me all you want, I ain't eve
165 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : My God... I had forgotten about this thread! Go ahead, ask all you want. Whether I'm answering is yet to be seen, though. ¡Creo que no me había reí
166 AR385 : Mexico will win tomorrow, and Argentina is going home.
167 Latinplane :
168 LTU932 : I hate to break it to you, but Mexico won't win this. However I am cutting them some slack and predict that ARG-MEX will be decided through a penalty
169 AR385 : Vayanse a la vil mierda los que le van a Argentina! Mexico va a ganar y punto. Viva Mexico cabrones! y Argentina por ahora no.
170 Post contains images Latinplane : Y Siiii....Vashanse a la vil mierda los que le van a Argentina! Mexico va a ganar y punto.Viva Mexico cabrones boludos! y Argentina por ahora no. Sign
171 AR385 : Wrong. Although LaVolpe has been in Mexico for over 25 years, he has never naturalized. Guillermo Franco has.
172 Post contains images Latinplane : I know, I know. He's said he doesn't need to do it since he's lived practically most of his life in Mexico and his daughters are married to Mexicans a
173 Post contains images MD11junkie : Still, both born in Argentina. Cheers! Gastón - The MD11junkie
174 AR385 : It's the game. It's screwing up my nerves, although I know we'll win.
175 Post contains images Latinplane : Pobre La Volpe. He's going to get butchered by the Mexicans. Good game Mexico, you played well, but Argentina is the winner. LatinPlane
176 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : What a game, people, what a game! It got me biting my nails till the end! Now it's time for Argentina to kick Germany's ass all the way!!!
177 Post contains images MD11junkie : Oleee Oleee oleee, Oleee oleee, oleee olaaa Oleee Oleee oleee, cada día te quiero más! Ohhhhhh Argentinaaaa, es un sentimientoooo No puedo paraaaaa
178 LTU932 : You know, that phrase reminds me of Costa Rica's Guimaraes. He became a bit famous when he qualified for the World Cup with Costa Rica in 2002, when
179 Post contains images AR385 : I will not talk about Mexico coming home. Let's avoid the issue. Now, I'm supposed to root for Argentina. I'm reluctant. I don't know what to do yet.
180 Post contains images LTU932 : Then root for the right team, and here's their flag...
181 Post contains images Marcus : I propose a trial for Latinplane............who while having a Mexican flag on his profile was cheering for Argentina...........and now he declares he
182 Post contains images Lamedianaranja : The game is another thread, another topic altogether that I really don't want to talk about, Holland having been eliminated and my hostcountry not bei
183 Post contains images Latinplane : The only fishy smell here is the bad sewer systems of Tijuana. I am genetically Mexican! But, I am not a Mexican national because I wasn't born in Me
184 Post contains images Latinplane : Welcome AR385, nice to be cheering with in the same team, again. Have a seat, make yourself comfortable. MD11Junkie brought Choripan and Marambio bro
185 Marcus : Hey Latinplane..............you really can't tell when someone is being sarcastic, does anyone know how to put the sarcastic smillie when posting?
186 Post contains images Fly727 : With all due respect, fellow a.nutters, regarding the soccer topic: Mientras mas grande la pelota, mas naco el deporte. Now you can start bashing me R
187 Post contains images Latinplane : I'm sorry Marcus. I guess there's been a language brakedown. I did understand you were being sarcastic, so I was being sarcastic myself too. Did I ov
188 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : The day I decide to go on diet, the day you start talking about food again?! That's not fair! No no no, I think our friend needs the flag of the winn
189 Post contains images Latinplane : You know you want some! You can throw it up later. That would make you anorexic AR385 Do you want some cajeta? LatinPlane
190 Post contains images Fly727 : Wrooooong, that is not anorexia. Tossing your cookies is called bulimia. Yuck yet somewhat effective when the food devils come and play inside my hea
191 AR385 : I hate Cajeta. I love Dulce de Leche. "La Serenisima" or "Sancor" are my favorites. I'm still having issues with rooting for Argentina. My mother has
192 Post contains images Andessmf : Ni un hombre se queja por tener las pelotas mas grandes! My favorite, cant stand 'cajeta'. BTW, thank you for the condolences for Ecuador loss... Wel
193 AR385 : Andessmf, I am really sorry your team lost. In my opinion they should have made it at least to the quarter finals. But it's always the same story, Con
194 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : First, as Fly727 pointed out, that would be bulimia. Second, I'm keeping myself healthy, so anorexia and bulimia are out of the question. The thing i
195 Post contains images MD11junkie : The one of South America is called 'Conmebol' or CSF, Confederación Sudamericana de Futbol. LOL, good one Andes Here here, here's to one of the best
196 AR385 : To make matters words, "Cajeta" is an extremely vulgar world in Argentina. Conmebol, thanks Gaston I couldn't remember Come on, where's your spirit of
197 AndesSMF : Thank you. Talking to my family in Ecuador, they told me all the partying that was occurring during the first two games. It would have been fun to be
198 Post contains images Latinplane : I can put on weight easily as well. As a matter of fact, I was pretty chubby when I was a kid, but if I tell that to anyone they won't believe me bec
199 AR385 : LatinPlane, I'm not sure, but I'm almost positive that Green tea is not Mate, and actually, tortillas, if prepared correctly, are very nutritious and
200 Post contains images LTU932 : Don't be so sure about that. I read on Focus Online that there has been an article in the Bild Zeitung (Germany's most famous tabloid, which I refuse
201 AR385 : LTU932, you are being a little bit unfair. Remember that usually and in most cases, football players do not exactly come from the upper echelons of so
202 Post contains images LTU932 : We're not Italy, so we don't need to weasel ourselves into the next round. I hope we can both agree that this will be a great game to watch, if the r
203 Tsaord : ummm le gusta "la tortura" por Shakira y Alejandro Sanz?? I bought her album!! I love it! ay amor me duele tanto!![Edited 2006-07-02 09:49:06]
204 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Weren't you rooting for Italy when the WC started? OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Any mention of the World Cup in this thread is hereby prohibited. Furthermo
205 Post contains images LTU932 : I used to, before I realised they were in fact weaseling themselves through some of the games and can't play consistently good. Plus, I found my patr
206 AR385 : Here? You mean from the Rio Bravo to Ushuaia right? that's your here? I also speak from experience. I have never gotten that crap of drinking lots of
207 Post contains images Fly727 : Exactly.... besides, who do the bottling companies think we are to need water? Car radiators? Give me Diet Coke and I'm a happy man. RM
208 Marcus : Sonrie..............el Peje va abajo por 400,000 votos
209 AndesSMF : Great! Perfect! (Sorry, rant mode coming...) Here where I sit we cant find decent people to help us in the field of construction design and engineeri
210 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Berlin, Berlin, wir unterliegen in Berlin... Exactly Martin, I mean everywhere in this region. Keeping up with the original spirit of this thread, I
211 Post contains images Fly727 : If I'm talking to any of them either in person, chat or in the phone "güey" comes out of my mouth rather generously. - ¿Que onda güey? - Nada güe
212 AR385 : The word "cuates" is used more on the Central and Southern part of Mexico than in the north. Here, aside from guey, we also use "cabron" and hermano.
213 Marcus : Cabron, compa, guey, cuate, primo
214 Post contains links Carmenlu15 : Good idea! Please continue here: Calling All Spanish Speakers - Part 3! (by Carmenlu15 Jul 4 2006 in Non Aviation)
215 Ihadapheo : Please feel free to continue posting in the new and improved Part 3 IHAP
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