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Bundesliga Gets New Name: "T-Com Liga"  
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

The German pro football league "Bundesliga" will probably get renamed after 43 years, the new name will be "T-Com Liga" or "T-Com Bundesliga" because Deutsche Telekom is becoming the new main sponsor.

Source: www.tagesschau.de

Pretty lame if you ask me, the football sponsoring is getting out of hand, renaming the complete league is way over the top.

What do you think?

Patrick

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User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4126 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

I think it is rubbish.

Just look at the Austrian league with all the silly team names. FC Milch XX, FC cigarette brand XX etc. You cannot take them serious...

How long until we see FC Franziskaner München, FC red light club Hamburg?  Wink

In Switzerland, the league is called Axpo Super League, named after an electricity producer  Sad

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlineAviationMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

WHAT?!  Wow!

I hope they don't! IMO it would be a huge mistake if they do so, the name "Bundesliga" is known worldwide.

Seems like they will be doing something that happened in Switzerland, the Swiss league was renamed from Naitonalliga A to Super League (the league is far away from being "Super").


User currently offlineLSPA From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 190 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1787 times:

lol...gayness...big time.

renaming stadiums sucks already imo...and renaming leagues is jsut way out of line.



~reach for the sky!
User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

Been like that in England for a long time  Sad


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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1762 times:

Where's the problem here...you don't actually believe ONE fan will ever call Bundesliga T-Com League...it will remain Bundesliga, period!

And the sheer fact, that they will have to pay dearly for that privilege is not bad at all, German clubs urgently need income to increase competitiveness. I mean look at Italy, Juve, that cheating, lying, frigging bloody bunch of morons, gets over ONE HUNDRED FRIGGING Million Euros p.a. only from TV rights!!! SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT IN SECOND DIVISION, YOU CHEATING, LYING.....etc. (see above).

Even those funny names of the arenas...I mean hey, who cares, does anyone (except Schalke fans of course) ever call Westfalenstadion Signal-Iduna-Park??? That sounds like a home for war veterans on old-age pension!!



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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

I can't wait for this trend to hit American Sports. I can see it now...

The NY Armatron Yankees
The NY Modell's Yankees
The Yankees of W.B. Mason

and so on...


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 5):
I mean look at Italy, Juve, that cheating, lying, frigging bloody bunch of morons, gets over ONE HUNDRED FRIGGING Million Euros p.a. only from TV rights!!! SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT IN SECOND DIVISION, YOU CHEATING, LYING.....etc. (see above).

I take it you're not a big fan of Corleone Turin, right :-P ?

Quoting Andreas (Reply 5):
Even those funny names of the arenas...I mean hey, who cares, does anyone (except Schalke fans of course) ever call Westfalenstadion Signal-Iduna-Park??? That sounds like a home for war veterans on old-age pension!!

Same in Hamburg. While most people have gotten used to calling the AOL-Arena by its name, many still refer to it as Volksparkstadion.


User currently offlineSkyman From Germany, joined May 2006, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

It heard that T-Com pays 30 million euros per season for the Name. Good money, but the Bundesliga will always be the Bundesliga. Eventhough people got used to saying AOL-Arena instead of the Volksparkstadion. (Yes I'm a HSV fan for Life)
In Austria the Leaguename is also sold or not?

It is strange enough already that during Bayern M�nchen games in one of the corners the fans are always dressed in a way that as a whole it looks like the T-Com logo.  vomit 


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 5):
Where's the problem here...you don't actually believe ONE fan will ever call Bundesliga T-Com League...it will remain Bundesliga, period!

You are right, fans will continue to call it Bundesliga but imagine the promotional flood before every game on TV, it will be like: "Good evening Ladies and Gentelman, Bitburger, Mc Donald's and Coca Cola are presenting the top game of the T-Com League live from the Signal Iduna Park in Dortmund".

Football is becoming a permanent commercial spot with a bit football in between.  Angry

Patrick


User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 7):
take it you're not a big fan of Corleone Turin, right :-

No that's actually not the case, I never had any "ressentiments" against Old Lady Juve, but to find out those FU-KING, LYING, CHEATING....etc. see above did get 100 FRIGGING millions to buy all those superstars AND ON TOP OF THAT thought they need to cheat and lie...wow, what a bloody bunch of criminals...shall they rot in the dirtiest cell of Italy's most cockroach-infested prison!!!



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 10):
but to find out those FU-KING, LYING, CHEATING....etc. see above did get 100 FRIGGING millions to buy all those superstars AND ON TOP OF THAT thought they need to cheat and lie..

Well, if it makes you feel better, there other clubs that did that as well  Wink . E.g. I'm still not fully sure that Milan is innocent, especially with Berlusconi behind them, but anyway, that's getting off-topic.

On the topic again:
I'm still waiting for the day that footballer jerseys look like racedriver jackets with 100 different company logos on them.


User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1720 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 11):
there other clubs that did that as well . E.g. I'm still not fully sure that Milan is innocent, especially with Berlusconi behind them, but anyway, that's getting off-topic.

OH I fully agree, they all cheated but I happen to know the amount of money Juve gets...give me the numbers on Milan, Inter.....and we'll carry this thread on a bit longer  Wink Big grin

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 11):
I'm still waiting for the day that footballer jerseys look like racedriver jackets with 100 different company logos on them.

But who cares....just don't look at it! I mean, from up there on the grandstands it's not that bad anyway!

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 9):
Good evening Ladies and Gentelman, Bitburger, Mc Donald's and Coca Cola are presenting the top game of the T-Com League live from the Signal Iduna Park in Dortmund".

A top game from Dortmund????????? How could that happen??!!  Wink

But yes...that could indeed happen...and again: WHO CARES! Would that be worse than that totally senseless stupid ravings of guys like that Werner Hansch?? Did you see, or rather listen to that unbelievable nonsense this idiot was yelling on air during the CL finals? Un-Frigging-Believable!!!!



I know it's only VfB but I like it!
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1712 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 12):
A top game from Dortmund????????? How could that happen??!!

I know, it was just an example.  Wink

Quoting Andreas (Reply 12):
Would that be worse than that totally senseless stupid ravings of guys like that Werner Hansch??

That's a good argument, I rather watch 50 commercials in a row than listening to Werner Hansch's drivel, the guy is by far the worst football commentator on earth.

Quoting Andreas (Reply 12):
Did you see, or rather listen to that unbelievable nonsense this idiot was yelling on air during the CL finals? Un-Frigging-Believable!!!!

Fortunately I saw the CL final on Premiere.

Patrick


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 13):
That's a good argument, I rather watch 50 commercials in a row than listening to Werner Hansch's drivel, the guy is by far the worst football commentator on earth.

*cough* Marcel Reif *cough*  Wink

Quoting Andreas (Reply 12):
A top game from Dortmund????????? How could that happen??!!

Ligapokal-Finale while the Berlin Olympiastadion is closed for renovation Big grin .

Quoting Andreas (Reply 12):
But who cares....just don't look at it! I mean, from up there on the grandstands it's not that bad anyway!

They sure are visible on TV though  Silly .

Quoting Andreas (Reply 12):
give me the numbers on Milan, Inter.....and we'll carry this thread on a bit longer

I would, but my source is currently hiding from both the Camorra and the Italian Police, so I can't contact him  Wink .


User currently offlineSkyman From Germany, joined May 2006, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1698 times:

Well we all now money rules the game. Did anyone see Hoizer lately? I still ahve to talk to him about that Paderborn game.  box 

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 11):
I'm still waiting for the day that footballer jerseys look like racedriver jackets with 100 different company logos on them.

Well mayby we don't have to pay 65 � to get a jersey then.  weeping 

Hansch or Reif ... well I really don't know who is worse I just can't decide  worried 


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6054 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

We have had a named "Super League" for the past couple of years now (Faxe Kondi-league, SAS-league etc.), but most people still refer to it as the "Super League". It's €30 mill. pr. season for something that very few people will even bother to notice, so why even bother get upset about it.

User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 14):
cough* Marcel Reif *cough

A very close second place, I agree!! but there are others, too......  vomit 

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 14):
They sure are visible on TV though

Then go see some games LIVE...much better than hanging around at home farting into your sofa Big grin

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 13):
Fortunately I saw the CL final on Premiere.

I didn't  Sad



I know it's only VfB but I like it!
User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 5):
Where's the problem here...you don't actually believe ONE fan will ever call Bundesliga T-Com League...it will remain Bundesliga, period!

Even those funny names of the arenas...I mean hey, who cares, does anyone (except Schalke fans of course) ever call Westfalenstadion Signal-Iduna-Park??? That sounds like a home for war veterans on old-age pension!!

At the risk of repeating myself (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1247815/):

You seem to forget that there are three contractual partners, not only two, with the population or residents being the third. However the Volk wasn't asked when they lost their Volkspark Stadium, and if the new name AOL Arena isn't mentioned often enough, HSV won't get the full pay check.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 9):
You are right, fans will continue to call it Bundesliga but imagine the promotional flood before every game on TV, it will be like: "Good evening Ladies and Gentelman, Bitburger, Mc Donald's and Coca Cola are presenting the top game of the T-Com League live from the Signal Iduna Park in Dortmund".

Football is becoming a permanent commercial spot with a bit football in between.

Correct.



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 18):
You seem to forget that there are three contractual partners, not only two, with the population or residents being the third. However the Volk wasn't asked when they lost their Volkspark Stadium, and if the new name AOL Arena isn't mentioned often enough, HSV won't get the full pay check.

Correct, but as I said in the other thread, the "Volk" cannot be part of the deal, that's what Managements are for, and the sheer fact, that guys like van der Vaart are paid by thsi, makes such a deal rather acceptable for the masses!

And since the "volk" is not part of the deal, THEY do not have to call it AOL arena...but can keep on calling it Volkspark, quite simple, some to think of it  Wink



I know it's only VfB but I like it!
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Thread starter):
What do you think?

I could not care less. When will people finally learn that pro soccer is about money and not sports and refrain from spending money for merchandise, tickets or pay TV subscriptions?



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1647 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 14):
*cough* Marcel Reif *cough*

I like Marcel Reif actually because he made me rolling on the floor once. It was a Premiere Bundesliga or Champions League conference, he had apparently some problems with his microphone and said something like: "Test, Test, 1, 2, 3......... Was ist das hier für eine Scheisse? So kann ich nicht arbeiten".  rotfl 

Quoting Skyman (Reply 15):
Did anyone see Hoizer lately?

At this time (evening) he is probably enjoying a beer at the regulars' table in the Cafe King.  Wink

Patrick


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the minor leagues in the US does it in a few years.

The corporate naming of teams is beginning to hit the US as well. Red Bull purchased the NY/NJ Metrostars of the MLS and renamed them Red Bull New York. I expect this trend to hit the minor leagues and minor sports (Arena Football, Pro Lacrosse, Indoor Soccer) within the next few years. It's really a matter of time before one of the pro sports leagues names their championship trophy after a corporate sponsor (Like in the old WHA, whose teams competed for the AVCO Cup.).

The corporate naming of venues is getting out of hand. The new stadiums for the Yankees and Mets have only recently been announced, and they're already saying that these stadiums will get corporate names. Heck, there are college stadiums with corporate names (Movie Gallery Veterans Stadium @ Troy State University is one), I not including venues where pro and college teams share the facility (like the RBC Center in Raleigh). You have some venues where the coporate naming doesn't sound like a corporately named venue (Philips Arena and the Staples Center are two such examples).

Look at auto racing, that's one big corporate naming after another.


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 17):
Then go see some games LIVE...much better than hanging around at home farting into your sofa

Sure, if you give me the money so that I can actually afford going to all 34 games of the FCB Big grin .

Quoting Skyman (Reply 15):
Did anyone see Hoizer lately?

Playing in the 8th league or so.

Quoting Andreas (Reply 19):
and the sheer fact, that guys like van der Vaart are paid by thsi, makes such a deal rather acceptable for the masses!

I thought the HSV financed their team by selling their best players to the competition like van Buyten  duck .


User currently offlineDan2002 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 2055 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

Yeah, this corporate sponsorship BS is, well, BS. Here in CLE Gund Arena got renamed Quicken Loans Arena (The "Q") how effing tacky. Auto racing is just as bad, the Home Depot-Lowes-Ameritrade-Ford-Fedex-500 sponsored by Coke, UPS, and FOX Sports. Atleast in the US they haven't started to put logos on the uniforms yet, just everything else.


A guy asks 'What's Punk?'. I kick over a trash can and its punk. He knocks over a trash can and its trendy.
25 Srbmod : Commonplace on MLS, AFL, and many on minor hockey league jerseys.
26 LOT767-300ER : Ehh? MLS jerseys do not have corporate logos on them. (Apart of course of the Addidas, Puma, Nike whoever makes the Jersey)
27 Post contains images LTU932 : Whatever the reasons are for renaming the Bundesliga, they are all bullshit. I don't understand why the hell this is happening now. Yes, I know comme
28 Post contains images Mdsh00 : I don't think it would happen for a longgg time. Considering that European soccer (football) jerseys have a bigger corprate logo than a team logo, Am
29 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Why do you like the worst suck-up teams in this world. Im sorry, but I have to do this again:
30 Post contains images Andreas : Fully agree with the caption, but did you for Chrissakes have to use a Schlacke fan??????? Of all teams you chose the worst!!
31 Post contains images LTU932 : At least that Schalke shirt is clean, not like the one this guy uses: But next time use one from the HSV or Borussia Dortmund.
32 Post contains links and images LOT767-300ER : The worst? No let us reserve that for FC Koln, Kaiserslautern and Eintracht. I happen to be a minor fan of Schalke. But because we are the best fans
33 Post contains links and images LOT767-300ER : The worst? No let us reserve that for FC Koln, Kaiserslautern and Eintracht. I happen to be a minor fan of Schalke. But because we are the best fans
34 Post contains images Andreas : Thank you very much...I was searching for that pic but couldn't find it...that's exactly what I wanted to post Ok, I'll buy that, fully d'accord! Tho
35 Post contains images Sabena332 : Yeah, thank you very much for the pic, exactly what I need to see at lunchtime. Patrick
36 Post contains images Skyman : Vfb Stuttgart fan, well, well you must have a hard time because they where almost as bad as their management this year. But don't worry I know how you
37 LOT767-300ER : Me and Andreas have weeped many of times! Its ok. Im not an American fan that just likes Bayern Munich because thats the only team they know (Kind of
38 Post contains links and images Srbmod : The replicas may not, but the actual players jerseys do:
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