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$600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!  
User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7367 posts, RR: 85
Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1751 times:
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AP is reporting that the DHS and DOT are using private flights to ferry back illegals to Mexico. Cost to house illegals was averaging over $9,000 (No time period was given). The cost to fly one back on a charter is only $600 one way.

You think their getting ff miles?   

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[Edited 2006-06-10 09:42:41]

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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Quoting FXramper (Thread starter):
AP is reporting that the DHS and DOT are using private flights to ferry back illegals to Mexico. Cost to house illegals was averaging over $9,000 (No time period was given). The cost to fly one back on a charter is only $600 one way

I've been proposing this for ages. Don't bus them to the other side of the border, where they can walk a few hundred yards and try again. Fly them to Mexico City! Cheaper in the long run and a deterrant to those who don't want to go to Mexico City and find their way back to the border.


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1729 times:

Honestly? It won't work.

Several European countries have been flying illegal immigrants back home for years, and it hasn't stopped anything. There have been cases of people that almost could ask for frequent flier benefits on those flights.

It might work as a PR measure in the sense of "We're doing something about the problem"... but it's not going to have any real effect.

People will continue trying to get to countries where they think they'll have a better life: those that can will do it legally, those that - for whatever reason - cannot, will continue doing it illegally.

Regardless of whether they'll be shipped, bussed or flown back.

Regards,
Frank



Smile - it confuses people!
User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3087 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
Fly them to Mexico City! Cheaper in the long run and a deterrant to those who don't want to go to Mexico City and find their way back to the border

Prividing Mexico will let you fly them there......

GS



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

To hell with Private Carriers - there's gotta be ONE C-130 that's not busy with the war . . . .

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1678 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 3):
Prividing Mexico will let you fly them there......

If Mexico refuses landing rights for repatriating Mexican citizens, I should think that is a violation of all sorts of international law. Mexico refuses to allow their own citizens to return to their county... Have to love the headline.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1673 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
To hell with Private Carriers - there's gotta be ONE C-130 that's not busy with the war . . . .

That would probably be more expensive than buying a bunch of seats on American Airlines, or chartering a 757.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
That would probably be more expensive than buying a bunch of seats on American Airlines, or chartering a 757.

Doubt it . . . a Herc, if my memory serves me, costs about $4500 per flight hour to operate . . . not including the cost of the crew. Got 100 deportees, at $600 a ticket that's $60K.

That herc, on say ELP-MEX will cost you about 6 hours flight time, r/t. So, about $27K altogether . . .


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1663 times:

Hell lets give them a challenge, and drop them off on the resort island of Cozumel!


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1641 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 8):
Hell lets give them a challenge, and drop them off on the resort island of Cozumel!

With or without a parachute
 Silly

{ducking for cover}


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
If Mexico refuses landing rights for repatriating Mexican citizens, I

I believe our agreement with Mexico that Mexican carriers are used to transport them back to Mexico City or where ever. MX was flying a 757 in Tucson for this purpose. Can some one in Tucson answer if the flights are still going.


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14142 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1532 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
Quoting Greasespot (Reply 3):
Prividing Mexico will let you fly them there......

If Mexico refuses landing rights for repatriating Mexican citizens, I should think that is a violation of all sorts of international law. Mexico refuses to allow their own citizens to return to their county... Have to love the headline.

Vietnam e.g. used to refuse the forcible return of her own citizens, same as several African countries.

Jan


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 3):

Prividing Mexico will let you fly them there......



Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 11):

Vietnam e.g. used to refuse the forcible return of her own citizens, same as several African countries.

Then just drop them off at Gitmo, release them into Cuba. Everyone's happy.  Wink

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9):
With or without a parachute

No fly them in, just now they have to get to the mainland to start the return trip to the USA!



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13208 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

When you consider that many of the Illegals in the USA are from Southern states of Mexico and Central American countries, even sending them well away from the border really won't make any difference. These are people who are willing to take the chances to travel 1000 or more miles for decent incomes to better themselves and their families.
We have to make the laws as to employers who knowingly employ illegals much stricter, perhaps with them having them pay stiff fines to pay for these flights and the related detention costs. Perhaps if they were high enough, pay would go up enough for Americans to take these jobs.


User currently offlineAirbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
ve been proposing this for ages. Don't bus them to the other side of the border, where they can walk a few hundred yards and try again. Fly them to Mexico City! Cheaper in the long run and a deterrant to those who don't want to go to Mexico City and find their way back to the border.

Whether it be 100 feet or 100 miles, the distance won't matter no matter how large, they will still try to come back.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
If Mexico refuses landing rights for repatriating Mexican citizens, I should think that is a violation of all sorts of international law. Mexico refuses to allow their own citizens to return to their county... Have to love the headline.

You can refuse entry to your country even if they are your own citizen. Just because I am an American citizen doesn't give me an automatic right to enter the country. It's their country and they can allow who they want in citizenship or not.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1474 times:

Quoting Airbus3801 (Reply 15):
It's their country

Who is this they you are referring to?

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
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