I heard about this while I was in the car earlier this morning, via XM Satellite Radio.
All the best to the President on his unannounced trip to Iraq.
I have to say that I suspected something was up about an hour and a half ago when I saw footage of the President walking in the rain to Marine One, unaccompanied and without an umbrella. It seemed very unusual to me. This was before his trip was announced.
By the way, reports say that Air Force One made a mad dash to Iraq about eleven or twelve hours ago. Earlier missions by U.S. dignitaries have seen them board unmarked or ordinary military aircraft to Iraq.
AerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1781 times:
Quoting KROC (Reply 10): Any minute now, a handful of users will come in here and start whining about how dangerous a move this is for Bush yada yada yada. Too bad he didn't take off from a Carrier to get to Iraq.
It's true that you can't please everyone, and there are some people (e.g., Bush-haters) in the world who will never be pleased until the end of the President's term -- at the earliest.
I often wish Democrats would criticize their own who go much too far in criticizing the President.
DeltaDC9 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 2844 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1770 times:
Quoting Solnabo (Reply 6): They need to upgrade the AF 742 to 744 or-8, nes pas?
The two 747s that are referred to as "Air Force One" were speced out when the 747-200 was in production, but since they took about 5 years to build, they are basically 747-400s but without the -400 stretch because the interior was designed for a -200, and they started with -200s off the line.
They have the glass cockpit and most other -400 upgrades. Also, they have very few hours on them and will be like new for a couple decades. With an average of 70 passengers, the larger -400 was not really needed anyway.
Dont take life too seriously because you will never get out of it alive - Bugs Bunny
Quoting KROC (Reply 10): Too bad he didn't take off from a Carrier to get to Iraq.
Oh what so we'd have to look at YET ANOTHER exagerated cod piece???
Quoting Texdravid (Reply 12): However, in a sign of confidence (or maybe texas bravado), Bush took a helicopter ride from the airport to the "green" zone. Not exactly a safe ride, given the security situation in Iraq.
I'm with you on this one... he should have taken one of those un-armored humvees that there appear to be so many of..
George, I hope you find Nirvana In Iraq...permanently.
Gilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1744 times:
Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 7): That means Cheney is in charge here.
No he's not lol. The 25th Amendment doesn't kick in just because he's out of the country. The VP continues his quest for a marksmanship badge and a passing score on the moving target range at Quantico I believe. ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
And I think he is helping out just by being there. If here were to take a trip around Baghdad or fly out to one of outlying cities for dinner with the troops that would be an even bigger plus but I'm sure the secret service has vetoed that idea as totally out of the question. But I say bravo for going there. And considering getting al-Zarqawi was a mission, yes they could hang the "mission accomplished" banner again. Just like they were right to do so after they ran Hussien out of power which was the first mission of the war.
edited because i'm sleepy and left half the post out!
AerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1723 times:
Quoting Gilligan (Reply 16): The 25th Amendment doesn't kick in just because he's out of the country.
That's correct. The President remains in charge wherever he is in the world. So much so, in fact, I believe that he continues to travel with "The Football" regardless of where he is.^1
"The Football" is the media's nickname for the attache' case that contains the nuclear launch codes for the United States. It is carried by a Presidential aide who accompanies the President during his travels.
The President has full capability and authority to execute all of his duties regardless of his physical position on the planet.
It's for these and other reasons that Air Force One is sometimes called "The Flying White House".
WestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2124 posts, RR: 7 Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1684 times:
While the press pool were told about the plans 24 hrs before departure, most of the cabinet was kept in the dark. So the White House trusts members of the press more than their Departmental Secretaries and the Attorney General? That's new.
The best time to plant a tree is 40 years ago. The second best time is today.
RJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1674 times:
Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 9): I have to say that I suspected something was up about an hour and a half ago when I saw footage of the President walking in the rain to Marine One, unaccompanied and without an umbrella. It seemed very unusual to me. This was before his trip was announced.
That was him leaving the White House for Camp David. When he left for Iraq, he literally ducked out of a meeting and left Camp David without telling many of his cabinet members.
ManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 2995 posts, RR: 49 Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1646 times:
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There was another thread a few hours ago that described planning of a president's trip in great detail. I didn't read it and now I can't find it anymore. Was it moved somewhere? Maybe I'm just blind or was it deleted?
AerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1640 times:
We now know how the President arrived in Iraq. Here is how I think the President might return home.
Note: In the following I've used an extremely simple, quickly devised code to make it more interesting. Once the method of return has been determined, I will decrypt the message.
Quote: Falsely claiming past greatness, advertisements placed in unison but without prior approval state loudly, "Marking fifteen glorious, wonderful, fabled years making artistic handicrafts, Hamilton Northern understands brilliant antediluvian art."
The professor expostulated, "A query over ornaments clearly lacks edification."
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25 RJpieces: Where does AF1 stop to refuel on these long flights? I thought they only did inflight refueling in emergencies... It was deleted because I had also po
26 Klaus: Quite the opposite, in fact. It would have been much more risky (bordering on the insane) to take the infamous road from the airport to the "green zo
27 AerospaceFan: It's interesting, isn't it, though, that his visit coincides with the deployment of 70,000 coalition and Iraqi forces throughout affected areas in or
28 ME AVN FAN: What bird is it now ? I mean, to be eaten by the president .............