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Karl Rove Will NOT Be Charged  
User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1350 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2168 times:

Much to the chagrin of the MSM and a majority of A.net, Karl Rove will NOT be charged in the Valerie Flame orgy case!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060613/...u=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

The silence from the left this morning has been golden. Where are you Keith Olbermann?? Where are you Howard Dean??

If Rove had been indicted, it would have been front-page news, headline breaking news with Tim Russert on the TV every two minutes.

Hypocritical liberal media!!


Tort reform now. Throw lawyers in jail later.
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User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

You beat me by 4 minutes! BTW I already suggested deleting my own post. Anyway here is Howard's response.....

"He doesn't belong in the White House. If the president valued America more than he valued his connection to Karl Rove, Karl Rove would have been fired a long time ago," said Dean, the Democratic Party chairman, speaking Tuesday on NBC's "Today" show. "So I think this is probably good news for the White House, but it's not very good news for America."

So the President is no longer able to have whom he wants as an adviser according to Dean. Or does he mean what is good news for the White House is not very good news for the Democrats? Maybe because they just lost another issue to run on this fall? Any bets that Howard let out a big ole scream when the news broke?

I will give the SP credit here though. He did make the news pretty public unlike a lot of other cases where the person of interest just got a phone call from some anonymous person around midnight.


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

So Libby is still going to get the chair right?  Yeah sure

Oh that's right, your too busy reveling in the fact that one of your scumbags slipped his way out.

Not taking the Liberal side on this one, but taking the Bush side is just as bad.


User currently offlineBladeLWS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

Libs are teh pawnzored! BWHAHAHAHA! No Fitzmas for you!

User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

Quoting BladeLWS (Reply 3):
Libs are teh pawnzored! BWHAHAHAHA! No Fitzmas for you!



User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

Texdravid is happy that another Bush crony who bends the laws when he sees fit won't go to prison.

Nice company you keep.


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

I hate to do this, but there's already another thread on this topic.

Plame Investigation: Will "Bush's Brain" Get Off? (by AerospaceFan Jun 13 2006 in Non Aviation)

[Edited 2006-06-13 16:50:27]

User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 2):
So Libby is still going to get the chair right?

When did that trial happen? When did he get convicted? It's just nice to see some people who truly deserve it eat a crow sandwich.


User currently offlineBladeLWS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2142 times:



User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2124 times:
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HAH! I don't care what side you're on the above photo is funny as hell.


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User currently offlineMrmeangenes From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

There seems to be quite a bit of excitement on the net about this.A writer named Jason Leopold had been declaring Rove's indictment was imminent;that it had already happened (this was accompanied by a photoshopped picture showing Rove bein frogmarched out of the White house);then,finally,when no indictment had surfaced, "Truthout" declared there was a "secret indictment".

Now this.

This is the way the world ends-
This is the way the world ends-
This is the way the world ends:
Not with a frogmarch
But an embarrassed simper.

(Sorry,TS !)
 Big grin  Silly



gene
User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7407 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2069 times:
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Quoting Texdravid (Thread starter):
Where are you Keith Olbermann??

Scrambling to the MSNBC to write another worthless diatribe. Wasn't he a sports commentator?

Quoting Texdravid (Thread starter):
Where are you Howard Dean??

Who cares? The guy is imploding the democratic party. They should have gone with the runner-up for the DNC chair,oh wait, there wasn't one.

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 1):
"He doesn't belong in the White House.

And niether does Dean.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
Texdravid is happy that another Bush crony who bends the laws when he sees fit won't go to prison.
Oh blow it out your backside. The whole case is bunch BS! I find it funny that Valerie Plame, and Joe Wilson were so concerned about her alleged "covert" status, yet they appaer on every magazine cover, and newspaper. Silly waste of time.
Nice company you keep.

Oh please, if this was "Baghdad" Jim McDermott's trial for tapping cell-phone conversations, or Pat Leahy's leaking of WH , you would be harking from hills of character assasination, while crying a wet blanket.
Senator Schumer is demanding that fed investigator Pat Fitzgerald reveal all testimony over the decision not indict Rove. Interesting that this former attorney doesn't know that making grand jury testimony public is against the law. Dopey liberalism



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

Just goes to show you that you can't be indicted for outing an agent when the said agent wasn't covert at the time (or in the past 5 years.)

Quoting Texdravid (Thread starter):
headline breaking news with Tim Russert on the TV every two minutes.

Probably but I'll give Russert one thing...he doesn't care if they are Dems or GOP, he'll harrass them until they answer his question.

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 11):
Quoting Texdravid (Thread starter):
Where are you Keith Olbermann??

Scrambling to the MSNBC to write another worthless diatribe. Wasn't he a sports commentator?

He was and not very good at that either though he does have nice hair.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

Bad last week for the Libs'

First, even though they think its some sort of "win," they lost the House seat last week in California. They lost the self-proclaimed "turning point" of the 2006 elections and the turnover of the House and Senate. Whoops.

Then, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed. Yea. That means less U.S. soldiers will die in the future. Less Citizens of Iraq will die. Less U.S. reporters will be beheaded. Less bad news out of Iraq means less good news for Democrats. (And before any of you moderators think that this post needs to be deleted, well go read Murtha and Kerrys opinions about the Iraq war. They, to this day, see NOTHING positive about this war and are using it as a crutch to further their agenda.)

Finally, now this. Rove gets off free. Why? Well, because he never outed anyone. This, after the media and certain members of the left had him convicted and fitted for an orange jump suit. Lets not forget, Rove's truth-telling to the FBI saved him from indictment. That's what makes them really mad. Not only did he do nothing, he did nothing to cover nothing up. So unlike the Democrats playbook, I know.

I guess tomorrow you go out and hug a lib, just to show them some support and understanding about their disappointments they suffered in the last week.



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2037 times:

Quoting Texdravid (Thread starter):
The silence from the left this morning has been golden. Where are you Keith Olbermann?? Where are you Howard Dean??

Don't forget truthout.org. They had him already indicted.


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 9):
HAH! I don't care what side you're on the above photo is funny as hell.

No, Not really. It's a government official making a childish gesture. It's akin to a Marine taunting the enemy he just defeated. It's animalistic and un-professional. Why you would want someone who does this in a 'leadership position' escapes me.


User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 9):
HAH! I don't care what side you're on the above photo is funny as hell.

Only if you are complacent about the corruption in our government.

As for the rest of you neo-cons:

I'll get blasted for this, but when our president get's a freakin' blow job and lies about it, he gets impeached, for lying to a grand jury (perhaps rightfully so). When our government gives you a $300 tax rebate and then lies to you, the conservatives regail in getting away with it.

Good luck to you neo-cons who want a few measly sheckles in your pocket whilst the world goes down the tubes. I'll be sure to flip you off when you get your asses burned in hell for being #$%holes.

All I can say is good riddance. Your day will indeed come.


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11572 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2017 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 13):
Then, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed. Yea. That means less U.S. soldiers will die in the future. Less Citizens of Iraq will die. Less U.S. reporters will be beheaded. Less bad news out of Iraq means less good news for Democrats.

So, he was killed. There is still less electricity in Iraq now than before the invasion. The oil plants are still below the capacity from when the invasion began. Just because the "leader" of the insurgency in Iraq has died means nothing. Iraqis do not want to be occupied. Period. End of story. They do not want forigners in control of their land. Iraqis want electricity and clean water back. They want medical care back. They want their country back. Minus the occupying forces. It is not a Dem vs. Rep thing. Bush has said the Iraqis are free because they had elections. Why can't we pull the troops? They have achieved freedom, right? That was one of the goals at one point of the invasion of Iraq, right?

GO CANUCKS!!



Life in the wall is a drag.
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 16):
Your day will indeed come

Our day has come and is here, already, in case you havent seen or bother to read the news about it.  biggrin 

Jeez, perhaps Rove wasnt indicted BECAUSE HE COMMITTED NO CRIME. Ever think of that?

If the Democrats have not been able to win much since '94 it means two things: the Democrats are NOT the majority of this country, or the Republicans have been able to cheat their way thru many an election.

You need to see the fact that Dems have not been able to win much not as 'trying to get the message out better', but perhaps realize that your message is out and not accepted by the majority of Americans.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 17):

So, should we get OBL or that wouldnt matter, either? I could easily go back a month and find stories after stories about when we were going to get Zarqawi, how important he was, how Bush let him slip away in 2002 (why not? if he wasnt that important) etc. For a point of comparison, why dont you compare Germany in 1938 as compared to 1947? Believe me, 1938 Germany was a lot better off than 1947. But we didnt want it to stay that way, either. Get it?

BTW, lets remove the occupying forces in German, South Korea, and Japan.  sarcastic 


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11572 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

Andes:

Apples and oragnes. The Nazis allowed the economy in Germany to get so bad before WWII. Saddam had infrastructure: water, roads, electricity, schooling, hospitals.

Bush could have kept troops in Afganistan to capture al-Qaida and Osama, but instead, went to Iraq. Zarqawi became the one he wanted to capture because he was the supposed leader of the insurgency in Iraq.

What does any of that have to do with the other?

GO CANUCKS!!



Life in the wall is a drag.
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 19):
The Nazis allowed the economy in Germany to get so bad before WWII

The appeal of the Nazis was that they had pulled Germany out of a bad economy.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 19):
Saddam had infrastructure: water, roads, electricity, schooling, hospitals.

So did the Soviet Union, Castro, Chavez, etc.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 19):
Bush could have kept troops in Afganistan to capture al-Qaida and Osama, but instead, went to Iraq. Zarqawi became the one he wanted to capture because he was the supposed leader of the insurgency in Iraq.

Still it begs the question, if OBL is captured/killed, will the left hail this as a victory, or as a (Zarqawi like) non-event? And now Zarqawi has become a suppossed leader of the insurgency?

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 19):
What does any of that have to do with the other?

If you cant see it, I cant help you.


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

It's funny how the cons on here are trying to show off their huge erections after finding out Rove got off free. Guess what, nobody won! This whole ugly episode should show how dirty politics and corruption is on BOTH sides and how all of our representatives put their petty bickering above the needs of the country.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 13):
First, even though they think its some sort of "win," they lost the House seat last week in California. They lost the self-proclaimed "turning point" of the 2006 elections and the turnover of the House and Senate. Whoops.

Relax, it's one election. SD is a hevily Republican area and a Democrat winning there isn't easy even in their worst of times. In CA, Orange County, Riverside County, and SD are always there for the taking, for the GOP. It would be like a Republican having a chance in a hippy town.



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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 5678 posts, RR: 32
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1980 times:

Just because someone is not going to be charged doesn't mean they are not guilty.

User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 22):
Just because someone is not going to be charged doesn't mean they are not guilty.

I really don't know how it is in Ireland, there "buddy," but here in America, you are innocent until proven guilty.

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 21):
Relax, it's one election. SD is a hevily Republican area and a Democrat winning there isn't easy even in their worst of times. In CA, Orange County, Riverside County, and SD are always there for the taking, for the GOP. It would be like a Republican having a chance in a hippy town.

Hey.. the GOP wasn't out there BEFORE the election calling this a key election in determining the 2006 outcome. It was the DEMS running out there shouting "this is just the start of our 2006 take over." Shoot, if thats the way you Dems want to take things over, keep it up. Funny. What you said sounds EXACTLY like:

"Yea, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi might be dead, but relax, he really wasn't that important, and there are plenty of others that will replace him."

And yes, Republicans do win in "hippy towns." Um... Giuliani?



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1962 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 23):
you are innocent until proven guilty.

One could have comitted a crime and not been convicted...last time I checked you had to have evidence to prosecute, and when it doesn't exit, you walk. and no, noT EVERY crime leaves evidence.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 23):
Giuliani?

And pray tell, what exactly has he won LATELY?


25 Braybuddy : Same here, but if a person's not going to be charged, the accusations remain. A person really needs to go to court to clear their name if there are a
26 Itsjustme : Actually, as was the case with OJ Simpson, the criminal did leave evidence and he was still found not guilty. Mr. Rove dodged a bullet....this time.
27 Hamfist : Of course he didn't get indicted--he didn't do anything illegal. Plame's husband was nothing more than a wannabe diplomat and she just another warm bo
28 Post contains images Halls120 : Don't know what system of justice you use in Ireland, but here in the US you are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Therefore, since Rove hasn't
29 Braybuddy : See reply 25 above.
30 Seb146 : Germany was in debt from WWI. They were printing more and more Marks to pay off the debt but had nothing to back it up. The paper money was almost wo
31 Post contains images Mrmeangenes : Music, maestro, please ! Let's all hum: " We shall overcome". Rove will not be charge-ed Rove will not be charge-ed Rove will not frog march to-day-ay
32 Post contains links Gilligan : So now it's a case of "what have you done for me lately"? Ever heard the term "fair weather fan"? So you are in league with Braybuddy in that just be
33 Sv7887 : And the general population wasn't afraid of a murderous dictator BEFORE the war?? It wasn't exactly paradise. Go ask the Kurds how well Saddam treate
34 DL021 : Yeah...the photo was funny, and it probably came either from before the entire incident or was photoshopped. Either way...it's appropriate. Rove was
35 Halls120 : Accusations are nothing more than accusations. You can't go to criminal court "to clear your name, " and unless you think you can prevail in a civil
36 Braybuddy : Accusations that are in the public domain will always be used by a person's detractors to cast a shadow over them, and, while they may be just accusa
37 Post contains images Halls120 : Right. I'm sure Martha Stewart would disagree with you on this one....
38 Braybuddy : Haven't a clue what you're talking about. Martha Stewart is hardly known over this side of the Atlantic. I know she was thrown in the slammer over in
39 Halls120 : And the shares in her company went up. All the "adverse" publicity of a conviction wasn't much of hindrance, it seems. The suspicion will stick only
40 Braybuddy : I'm not talking about the US judicial system, I'm talking about public opinion.
41 Texdravid : Anybody seen or heard about the reaction from CNN's Jack McCafferty? He is as bad as Olbermann is sliming anyone on the right. A couple of months ago,
42 TedTAce : Have you heard about both sides being corporate scum puppets? ok.. if you REALLY think so.
43 Halls120 : But you keep talking about Rove clearing his reputation in court. Which he cannot do in our system, unless he can establish libel or slander.
44 GuitrThree : No. I think it is your priorities you need to reevaluate. There simply is NO proof that he did anything wrong. NONE. If there was, he would have been
45 TedTAce : As long as you are willing to conceede the diference between what someone knows what happens(ed) and what someone can prove in a court of law; we are
46 GuitrThree : Yea, as long as you are willing to concede the difference what you WANT to have happened and what REALLY happened, we are cool.
47 TedTAce : KR being convicted is not something I wanted, not having KR so much as being suspected of wrong doing is what I want. All these politicians being und
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